Epson is stopping non-Epson ink sales

Epson managed to stop delivery of non Epson ink from a supplier in
Canada.
If Epson prevents me from buying less expensive inks I guarantee I
will never again buy an Epson product again.

How do you feel about it?

Frank Arthur wrote:

Epson managed to stop delivery of non Epson ink from a supplier in
Canada.
If Epson prevents me from buying less expensive inks I guarantee I
will never again buy an Epson product again.

How do you feel about it?

I agree with you.

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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:37:34 GMT, Paul Heslop
wrote Re Epson is stopping
non-Epson ink sales:

Frank Arthur wrote:

Epson managed to stop delivery of non Epson ink from a supplier in
Canada.
If Epson prevents me from buying less expensive inks I guarantee I
will never again buy an Epson product again.

How do you feel about it?

I agree with you.

Ditto.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:52:07 -0500, Frank Arthur wrote:

Epson managed to stop delivery of non Epson ink from a supplier in
Canada.
If Epson prevents me from buying less expensive inks I guarantee I
will never again buy an Epson product again.

How do you feel about it?

They need to protect their patents and research.

They are also overpriced.

If Epson prevents me from buying less expensive inks I guarantee I
will never again buy an Epson product again.

How do you feel about it?

Frank

Just for yourself calculate the cost of each item in each print. The
amount of ink in each 8-1/2" X 11" print is about 1 milliliter.
Sometimes more and sometimes less. How much are you paying per sheet
for paper? And finally how much is the printer? Per print. So after
this the cost of ink is still significant but not as severe as your
message implies.

For the record I do from 50 to 100 prints per week. Sometimes several
hundred a week. Ink costs while significant are not that much.

I have an Epson 4800 and try to use 220ml cartridges. At $50.00 to
$100.00 each cartridge. I just bought 24 each 220ml cartridges.

And finally, as with any hobby, it does cost money. The hobby of
digital photography and printing has many intrinisic advantages over
silver photography. Especially with many quality products available
for use at home and at work.

Bob AZ

I'm interested in how they accomplished this. Was the parcel not
allowed into the US, was the Canadian source forced to stop selling the
3rd party cartridges to the US or everywhere?

One solution is to buy refillable spongeless cartridges from one of the
3rd party vendors (there are a number) and then buy bulk inks, or
consider a Continuous Inking System (again go spongeless) that works
directly from ink bottles. These can save a fair amount of money and
allow you to use your own brand of inks. The price on CIS which are now
being produced in China, is considerably lower than they were previously.

Finally, you can buy a chip resetter and refill the Epson cartridges you
own with bulk inks.

Until a new federal administration is in power in the US, and the courts
start getting some hints as to the change in attitude regarding
anti-trust and anti-protectionist legislation interpretation, you'll
just have to work around it. Believe me if Epson is up to this, the
others won't be far behind.

Art



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Frank Arthur wrote:
Epson managed to stop delivery of non Epson ink from a supplier in
Canada.
If Epson prevents me from buying less expensive inks I guarantee I
will never again buy an Epson product again.

How do you feel about it?

I'm guessing your printing is for commercial sales, and that you can
pass on the cost of the ink, which is great, but not everyone can do so.
Epson large cartridge (wide carriage) prints run about $1-$1.50 in ink
cost per square foot with OEM ink. That easily doubles or more with
small cartridge printers.

I won't argue if Epson OEM inks are superior to 3rd party, with the
specialty and pro printers (Ultrachrome models) the Epson inks do offer
some advantages over some of the 3rd party inks.

There is no question that ink costs are very inflated by the OEMs to
cover the relatively cheap price of the printers and to cover R&D. They
all do it, however. Its a miserable business model for a lot of reasons.

Art

If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

Bob AZ wrote:
If Epson prevents me from buying less expensive inks I guarantee I
will never again buy an Epson product again.

How do you feel about it?

Frank

Just for yourself calculate the cost of each item in each print. The
amount of ink in each 8-1/2" X 11" print is about 1 milliliter.
Sometimes more and sometimes less. How much are you paying per sheet
for paper? And finally how much is the printer? Per print. So after
this the cost of ink is still significant but not as severe as your
message implies.

For the record I do from 50 to 100 prints per week. Sometimes several
hundred a week. Ink costs while significant are not that much.

I have an Epson 4800 and try to use 220ml cartridges. At $50.00 to
$100.00 each cartridge. I just bought 24 each 220ml cartridges.

And finally, as with any hobby, it does cost money. The hobby of
digital photography and printing has many intrinisic advantages over
silver photography. Especially with many quality products available
for use at home and at work.

Bob AZ

Paul Heslop wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Epson managed to stop delivery of non Epson ink from a supplier in
Canada.
If Epson prevents me from buying less expensive inks I guarantee I
will never again buy an Epson product again.

How do you feel about it?

I agree with you.

I stopped using Epson years ago. Too many clogs if you didn't print
every day. I was spending half my time unclogging before I could print,
and even then I rarely got it completely unclogged. I can go nearly a
month with my HPs idle with no clogs. And that's with aftermarket ink, too.

TJ

Joel wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote:

Frank Arthur wrote:

Epson managed to stop delivery of non Epson ink from a supplier in
Canada.
If Epson prevents me from buying less expensive inks I guarantee I
will never again buy an Epson product again.

How do you feel about it?

I agree with you.

Epson has won almost a year ago, some compatible ink cartridge
manufactures have agreed to stop, while others still continue to sell like
usual.

I only use Epson to print DVD label, and I may switch to thermal if no
Epson compatible cartridge available.

They caused the closedown of my favourite... Printrite I think they
were called.

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Paul (We won't die of devotion)
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TJ wrote:

Paul Heslop wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
Epson managed to stop delivery of non Epson ink from a supplier in
Canada.
If Epson prevents me from buying less expensive inks I guarantee I
will never again buy an Epson product again.

How do you feel about it?

I agree with you.

I stopped using Epson years ago. Too many clogs if you didn't print
every day. I was spending half my time unclogging before I could print,
and even then I rarely got it completely unclogged. I can go nearly a
month with my HPs idle with no clogs. And that's with aftermarket ink, too.

TJ

Aye, me too but I have an epson scanner, probably the last thing I'll
buy of theirs.

--
Paul (We won't die of devotion)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/