Socket 754 nforce 4 FINALLY!

Dee wrote:

Roy Coorne wrote:

Anthony wrote:

http://www.ajump.com/ajump/product.a...f%5Fid=0840159


FINALLY!!!!




It's not (yet) on the Asus web site - neither Global nor N.American
nor Germen...

rOy


It was on the Global site yesterday, and appears to still be there today:

http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.asp...&modelmenu =1

THX for the link - must be my Mozilla 1.7.3 which didn't show the
products subgroup Motherboards on the Global site;-(

Now I look forward to the chip driver set for this board, for
installing WinXP_x64...

rOy

Well, it may be just a personal choice or an economic one. Whatever, he's
entitled to buy what's available. Do you have any idea how much the 949 dual
chips and mobo's will cost?
"Dee" wrote in message
...
Anthony wrote:

http://www.ajump.com/ajump/product.a...f%5Fid=0840159


FINALLY!!!!



Why would you want to get excited about a socket 754 board? If you're
going to invest in a new system, forget 754! AMD is phasing out the 754
pin AMD64 CPUs and getting ready to introduce a dual core 939 pin AMD64.

At this point in time, socket 754 is a dead end street! The only CPUs
for it will be the Semprons.

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:01:05 +0000, dawg wrote:

Well, it may be just a personal choice or an economic one. Whatever, he's
entitled to buy what's available. Do you have any idea how much the 949 dual
chips and mobo's will cost?

No one can say for sure but I'd guess that the pricing will be similar to
the FX pricing today.

The reasons are simple, socket 939 isnt any faster than S754 in the
majority of app's including gaming. People with current S754 chips like
the 3400 want to use PCI-E so tis makes solid business sense for board
makers. Spend less time reading about the wonders of of 939 and more time
running a 754 system and you'd realise you couldnt tell the difference at
the same clock speeds. Oh and by the way, what makes you think socket 939
is any more "future proof" than S754? AMD already stated dual-core will
require a new socket to handle the added current draw, in other word your
939 will be worthless next year....

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:32:54 -0500, "Dorsai" glamdring007@reserved
wrote:

The reasons are simple, socket 939 isnt any faster than S754 in the
majority of app's including gaming. People with current S754 chips like
the 3400 want to use PCI-E so tis makes solid business sense for board
makers. Spend less time reading about the wonders of of 939 and more time
running a 754 system and you'd realise you couldnt tell the difference at
the same clock speeds. Oh and by the way, what makes you think socket 939
is any more "future proof" than S754? AMD already stated dual-core will
require a new socket to handle the added current draw, in other word your
939 will be worthless next year....


hey, the 939 core is the Sempron Xtreme of the future.
drum roll here

Hey, these ain't no BX chipsets

U¿ytkownik "Dorsai" glamdring007@reserved napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
lkaboutcomputing.com...
The reasons are simple, socket 939 isnt any faster than S754 in the
majority of app's including gaming. People with current S754 chips like
the 3400 want to use PCI-E so tis makes solid business sense for board
makers. Spend less time reading about the wonders of of 939 and more time
running a 754 system and you'd realise you couldnt tell the difference at
the same clock speeds. Oh and by the way, what makes you think socket 939
is any more "future proof" than S754? AMD already stated dual-core will
require a new socket to handle the added current draw, in other word your
939 will be worthless next year....

I hear that dual core CPUs will be available starting from socket 939
so we have different informations.

Another benifit is that socket 939 Winchester takes 20W less power as it is
in 90nm technology.
There are no 90nm CPU for socket 754.

Another thing is that FX CPUs are available starting at socket 939.
As new CPUs will appear on market - FX's will be cheaper.
Particulary when faster then FX cpu is available - You don't have to buy
the newest CPU and can try FX which I hope will be cheaper than faster one.

For example I am going to use this platform about 5 ears. Maybe longer.
Because about 3000+ is enough for my particulary needs.

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:34:27 +0100, netx wrote:

U¿ytkownik "Dorsai" glamdring007@reserved napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
lkaboutcomputing.com...
The reasons are simple, socket 939 isnt any faster than S754 in the
majority of app's including gaming. People with current S754 chips like
the 3400 want to use PCI-E so tis makes solid business sense for board
makers. Spend less time reading about the wonders of of 939 and more time
running a 754 system and you'd realise you couldnt tell the difference at
the same clock speeds. Oh and by the way, what makes you think socket 939
is any more "future proof" than S754? AMD already stated dual-core will
require a new socket to handle the added current draw, in other word your
939 will be worthless next year....

I hear that dual core CPUs will be available starting from socket 939
so we have different informations.

I think there's going to be a lot of disappointed people buying dual core
cpu's. At least until apps start making use of them. And if you think the
FX series of cpu's is expensive, wait til you see the dual core prices.:-)

Another benifit is that socket 939 Winchester takes 20W less power as it
is in 90nm technology.
There are no 90nm CPU for socket 754.

I don't know why you think there won't be 90nm 754 parts. Check AMDs'
roadmap.

Another thing is that FX CPUs are available starting at socket 939. As
new CPUs will appear on market - FX's will be cheaper. Particulary when
faster then FX cpu is available - You don't have to buy the newest CPU
and can try FX which I hope will be cheaper than faster one.

An Athlon 64/FX51 is still $745. Now compare that to a $192 3400+. On
hint. Don't bet on the FX 51.

For example I am going to use this platform about 5 ears. Maybe longer.
Because about 3000+ is enough for my particulary needs.

As it would be for about 90% of people. And since 754 goes up to 3700+.....

If you have to have top speed, or your apps require high bandwidth, then
939 is the choice. If you can live with 90% of the top speed, then 754 is
certainly an alternative. And at up to 1/4 the price, it certainly makes
sense.

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Dorsai wrote:

The reasons are simple, socket 939 isnt any faster than S754 in the
majority of app's including gaming. People with current S754 chips like
the 3400 want to use PCI-E so tis makes solid business sense for board
makers. Spend less time reading about the wonders of of 939 and more time
running a 754 system and you'd realise you couldnt tell the difference at
the same clock speeds. Oh and by the way, what makes you think socket 939
is any more "future proof" than S754? AMD already stated dual-core will
require a new socket to handle the added current draw, in other word your
939 will be worthless next year....


Then why are 939 pin, dual core Athlon 64s being demonstrated right now?

AMDZone references another site with benchmarks on dual core, 939 pin,
Athlon 64:

http://www.amdzone.net/modules.php?o...rder=0&thold=0

to this page:

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

There are dual core 939 & 940 pins CPUs being produced, right now.

The versions with increased pin count are related to switching to either
DDR2 or DDR3 memory where more lines are needed.

On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:30:31 -0500, Dee wrote:

Dorsai wrote:

The reasons are simple, socket 939 isnt any faster than S754 in the
majority of app's including gaming. People with current S754 chips like
the 3400 want to use PCI-E so tis makes solid business sense for board
makers. Spend less time reading about the wonders of of 939 and more time
running a 754 system and you'd realise you couldnt tell the difference at
the same clock speeds. Oh and by the way, what makes you think socket 939
is any more "future proof" than S754? AMD already stated dual-core will
require a new socket to handle the added current draw, in other word your
939 will be worthless next year....


The versions with increased pin count are related to switching to either
DDR2 or DDR3 memory where more lines are needed.

There you go... worthless

You guys go buy those 939 chips and motherboards though