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Very odd problem, for savy pc owners only
This is a copy and paste of an email I sent to ATI (which has gotten no
response so far, big surprise there), NOT!! Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks ================================================== ==== Hi, Last week or so I was having to turn the computer off then back on again 2 times for the machine to get into bios, post and boot. Now this morning I go to turn my computer on and it beeps a cpu error everytime I try to to turn it on. Can't get it to post no matter what I do. Disconnected everything but vid and memory but still my computer just sits there fans going, harddrives going(when connected) but no video, no post and beep msg saying there is a cpu problem. I'm posting this with my old 9800pro which I had to stick back in and works fine so obviously there is no cpu problem. I can swap my X800XT and 9800pro all day and 9800pro allows my machine to post and boot properly with no problems while my X800XT hangs my system before bios. I'm wondering if its a power supply problem? I have a decent 400watt PS though. And I don't have another laying around to test with, arg. Bios reads: 1.53,3.26,4.94,11.85,12.36,2.91,5.56 for the various voltages. SandraSoft reads: 1.53,3.25,4.95,11.92,-12.53,-5.15,5.02,2.91 voltages. (These are with my 9800pro however. Can't read my X800 voltages cause I cant even get to bios.) Well I went a bought a quality Antec power supply to try - still doesn't work, can't post, same cpu beep code. Put 9800pro back in and going to drop vid card off at friends house for them to put in their system to test card. Seems I may have a card gone bad but won't know for sure. The odd thing is, my computer was working perfectly fine for a week with my new X800XT. After a week my machine started acting odd: on cold boot I would for some reason have to turn my machine on then off then on again to get it to boot into bios and continue normally. If I didn't do this my computer would sit there beeping the cpu error never getting into bios. Well just got a call from my friend who's testing out my X800XT for me in his(2 month old) athlon64 3200+ rig and it booted and worked fine in his computer. I'm having him do some a few cold boots before giving me the card back. (It booted and worked fine each time.) It's almost as though my computer slowly degraded over a week and a half from perfect to funky cold booting error to can't boot at all. I changed nothing on my system during this time besides perhaps a few demo or program installs within winXP. I just don't get it. Its just so odd that all works great with my 9800pro and I simply put in the X800XT and blam, computer won't post. Any suggestions would be helpful, thank you. Btw, I consider myself VERY computer hardware and software savy so any tech speak is fine. Regards, Derek ================================================== ====== Edit: Since this email, I've borrowed my card to another different friend to test the video card in his system (very new Prescott system) and it works perfectly fine for him also. I'm guessing I have a motherboard problem. It's as though some component on my motherboard slowly burned up with the X800XT in my system and then degraded far enough that it prevents my system from booting up. However, at the same time something different about the 9800pro design doesn't require as much 'draw' from this degraded MB component and allows my system to work seemingly normally. This sound possible? Albatron K8T800ProII, ADATA PC4000 1 gig, athlon64 3200+, nothing overclocked |
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Give make and model of your power supply? Just because it says 400watts,
doesn't mean that is what you are getting. I paid 78.00 for my 420watt Enermax power suppy just a month ago from Newegg.com It works great, and keeps my system cooler too. "Destroy" wrote in message ... This is a copy and paste of an email I sent to ATI (which has gotten no response so far, big surprise there), NOT!! Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks ================================================== ==== Hi, Last week or so I was having to turn the computer off then back on again 2 times for the machine to get into bios, post and boot. Now this morning I go to turn my computer on and it beeps a cpu error everytime I try to to turn it on. Can't get it to post no matter what I do. Disconnected everything but vid and memory but still my computer just sits there fans going, harddrives going(when connected) but no video, no post and beep msg saying there is a cpu problem. I'm posting this with my old 9800pro which I had to stick back in and works fine so obviously there is no cpu problem. I can swap my X800XT and 9800pro all day and 9800pro allows my machine to post and boot properly with no problems while my X800XT hangs my system before bios. I'm wondering if its a power supply problem? I have a decent 400watt PS though. And I don't have another laying around to test with, arg. Bios reads: 1.53,3.26,4.94,11.85,12.36,2.91,5.56 for the various voltages. SandraSoft reads: 1.53,3.25,4.95,11.92,-12.53,-5.15,5.02,2.91 voltages. (These are with my 9800pro however. Can't read my X800 voltages cause I cant even get to bios.) Well I went a bought a quality Antec power supply to try - still doesn't work, can't post, same cpu beep code. Put 9800pro back in and going to drop vid card off at friends house for them to put in their system to test card. Seems I may have a card gone bad but won't know for sure. The odd thing is, my computer was working perfectly fine for a week with my new X800XT. After a week my machine started acting odd: on cold boot I would for some reason have to turn my machine on then off then on again to get it to boot into bios and continue normally. If I didn't do this my computer would sit there beeping the cpu error never getting into bios. Well just got a call from my friend who's testing out my X800XT for me in his(2 month old) athlon64 3200+ rig and it booted and worked fine in his computer. I'm having him do some a few cold boots before giving me the card back. (It booted and worked fine each time.) It's almost as though my computer slowly degraded over a week and a half from perfect to funky cold booting error to can't boot at all. I changed nothing on my system during this time besides perhaps a few demo or program installs within winXP. I just don't get it. Its just so odd that all works great with my 9800pro and I simply put in the X800XT and blam, computer won't post. Any suggestions would be helpful, thank you. Btw, I consider myself VERY computer hardware and software savy so any tech speak is fine. Regards, Derek ================================================== ====== Edit: Since this email, I've borrowed my card to another different friend to test the video card in his system (very new Prescott system) and it works perfectly fine for him also. I'm guessing I have a motherboard problem. It's as though some component on my motherboard slowly burned up with the X800XT in my system and then degraded far enough that it prevents my system from booting up. However, at the same time something different about the 9800pro design doesn't require as much 'draw' from this degraded MB component and allows my system to work seemingly normally. This sound possible? Albatron K8T800ProII, ADATA PC4000 1 gig, athlon64 3200+, nothing overclocked |
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Antec SL400. I've tried 2 quality power supplies, doubt that's the problem.
Pseudo Namen wrote: Give make and model of your power supply? Just because it says 400watts, doesn't mean that is what you are getting. I paid 78.00 for my 420watt Enermax power suppy just a month ago from Newegg.com It works great, and keeps my system cooler too. "Destroy" wrote in message ... This is a copy and paste of an email I sent to ATI (which has gotten no response so far, big surprise there), NOT!! Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks ================================================ ====== Hi, Last week or so I was having to turn the computer off then back on again 2 times for the machine to get into bios, post and boot. Now this morning I go to turn my computer on and it beeps a cpu error everytime I try to to turn it on. Can't get it to post no matter what I do. Disconnected everything but vid and memory but still my computer just sits there fans going, harddrives going(when connected) but no video, no post and beep msg saying there is a cpu problem. I'm posting this with my old 9800pro which I had to stick back in and works fine so obviously there is no cpu problem. I can swap my X800XT and 9800pro all day and 9800pro allows my machine to post and boot properly with no problems while my X800XT hangs my system before bios. I'm wondering if its a power supply problem? I have a decent 400watt PS though. And I don't have another laying around to test with, arg. Bios reads: 1.53,3.26,4.94,11.85,12.36,2.91,5.56 for the various voltages. SandraSoft reads: 1.53,3.25,4.95,11.92,-12.53,-5.15,5.02,2.91 voltages. (These are with my 9800pro however. Can't read my X800 voltages cause I cant even get to bios.) Well I went a bought a quality Antec power supply to try - still doesn't work, can't post, same cpu beep code. Put 9800pro back in and going to drop vid card off at friends house for them to put in their system to test card. Seems I may have a card gone bad but won't know for sure. The odd thing is, my computer was working perfectly fine for a week with my new X800XT. After a week my machine started acting odd: on cold boot I would for some reason have to turn my machine on then off then on again to get it to boot into bios and continue normally. If I didn't do this my computer would sit there beeping the cpu error never getting into bios. Well just got a call from my friend who's testing out my X800XT for me in his(2 month old) athlon64 3200+ rig and it booted and worked fine in his computer. I'm having him do some a few cold boots before giving me the card back. (It booted and worked fine each time.) It's almost as though my computer slowly degraded over a week and a half from perfect to funky cold booting error to can't boot at all. I changed nothing on my system during this time besides perhaps a few demo or program installs within winXP. I just don't get it. Its just so odd that all works great with my 9800pro and I simply put in the X800XT and blam, computer won't post. Any suggestions would be helpful, thank you. Btw, I consider myself VERY computer hardware and software savy so any tech speak is fine. Regards, Derek ================================================ ======== Edit: Since this email, I've borrowed my card to another different friend to test the video card in his system (very new Prescott system) and it works perfectly fine for him also. I'm guessing I have a motherboard problem. It's as though some component on my motherboard slowly burned up with the X800XT in my system and then degraded far enough that it prevents my system from booting up. However, at the same time something different about the 9800pro design doesn't require as much 'draw' from this degraded MB component and allows my system to work seemingly normally. This sound possible? Albatron K8T800ProII, ADATA PC4000 1 gig, athlon64 3200+, nothing overclocked |
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Ok. Just checking.
Now you need to try your x800XT on a friends computer, or your spare, etc.. If it doesn't work there, it is time for the good ole RMA. "Destroy" wrote in message ... Antec SL400. I've tried 2 quality power supplies, doubt that's the problem. Pseudo Namen wrote: Give make and model of your power supply? Just because it says 400watts, doesn't mean that is what you are getting. I paid 78.00 for my 420watt Enermax power suppy just a month ago from Newegg.com It works great, and keeps my system cooler too. "Destroy" wrote in message ... This is a copy and paste of an email I sent to ATI (which has gotten no response so far, big surprise there), NOT!! Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks =============================================== ======= Hi, Last week or so I was having to turn the computer off then back on again 2 times for the machine to get into bios, post and boot. Now this morning I go to turn my computer on and it beeps a cpu error everytime I try to to turn it on. Can't get it to post no matter what I do. Disconnected everything but vid and memory but still my computer just sits there fans going, harddrives going(when connected) but no video, no post and beep msg saying there is a cpu problem. I'm posting this with my old 9800pro which I had to stick back in and works fine so obviously there is no cpu problem. I can swap my X800XT and 9800pro all day and 9800pro allows my machine to post and boot properly with no problems while my X800XT hangs my system before bios. I'm wondering if its a power supply problem? I have a decent 400watt PS though. And I don't have another laying around to test with, arg. Bios reads: 1.53,3.26,4.94,11.85,12.36,2.91,5.56 for the various voltages. SandraSoft reads: 1.53,3.25,4.95,11.92,-12.53,-5.15,5.02,2.91 voltages. (These are with my 9800pro however. Can't read my X800 voltages cause I cant even get to bios.) Well I went a bought a quality Antec power supply to try - still doesn't work, can't post, same cpu beep code. Put 9800pro back in and going to drop vid card off at friends house for them to put in their system to test card. Seems I may have a card gone bad but won't know for sure. The odd thing is, my computer was working perfectly fine for a week with my new X800XT. After a week my machine started acting odd: on cold boot I would for some reason have to turn my machine on then off then on again to get it to boot into bios and continue normally. If I didn't do this my computer would sit there beeping the cpu error never getting into bios. Well just got a call from my friend who's testing out my X800XT for me in his(2 month old) athlon64 3200+ rig and it booted and worked fine in his computer. I'm having him do some a few cold boots before giving me the card back. (It booted and worked fine each time.) It's almost as though my computer slowly degraded over a week and a half from perfect to funky cold booting error to can't boot at all. I changed nothing on my system during this time besides perhaps a few demo or program installs within winXP. I just don't get it. Its just so odd that all works great with my 9800pro and I simply put in the X800XT and blam, computer won't post. Any suggestions would be helpful, thank you. Btw, I consider myself VERY computer hardware and software savy so any tech speak is fine. Regards, Derek =============================================== ========= Edit: Since this email, I've borrowed my card to another different friend to test the video card in his system (very new Prescott system) and it works perfectly fine for him also. I'm guessing I have a motherboard problem. It's as though some component on my motherboard slowly burned up with the X800XT in my system and then degraded far enough that it prevents my system from booting up. However, at the same time something different about the 9800pro design doesn't require as much 'draw' from this degraded MB component and allows my system to work seemingly normally. This sound possible? Albatron K8T800ProII, ADATA PC4000 1 gig, athlon64 3200+, nothing overclocked |
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What is the beep code it gives you on POST?
"Destroy" wrote in message ... This is a copy and paste of an email I sent to ATI (which has gotten no response so far, big surprise there), NOT!! Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks ================================================== ==== Hi, Last week or so I was having to turn the computer off then back on again 2 times for the machine to get into bios, post and boot. Now this morning I go to turn my computer on and it beeps a cpu error everytime I try to to turn it on. Can't get it to post no matter what I do. Disconnected everything but vid and memory but still my computer just sits there fans going, harddrives going(when connected) but no video, no post and beep msg saying there is a cpu problem. I'm posting this with my old 9800pro which I had to stick back in and works fine so obviously there is no cpu problem. I can swap my X800XT and 9800pro all day and 9800pro allows my machine to post and boot properly with no problems while my X800XT hangs my system before bios. I'm wondering if its a power supply problem? I have a decent 400watt PS though. And I don't have another laying around to test with, arg. Bios reads: 1.53,3.26,4.94,11.85,12.36,2.91,5.56 for the various voltages. SandraSoft reads: 1.53,3.25,4.95,11.92,-12.53,-5.15,5.02,2.91 voltages. (These are with my 9800pro however. Can't read my X800 voltages cause I cant even get to bios.) Well I went a bought a quality Antec power supply to try - still doesn't work, can't post, same cpu beep code. Put 9800pro back in and going to drop vid card off at friends house for them to put in their system to test card. Seems I may have a card gone bad but won't know for sure. The odd thing is, my computer was working perfectly fine for a week with my new X800XT. After a week my machine started acting odd: on cold boot I would for some reason have to turn my machine on then off then on again to get it to boot into bios and continue normally. If I didn't do this my computer would sit there beeping the cpu error never getting into bios. Well just got a call from my friend who's testing out my X800XT for me in his(2 month old) athlon64 3200+ rig and it booted and worked fine in his computer. I'm having him do some a few cold boots before giving me the card back. (It booted and worked fine each time.) It's almost as though my computer slowly degraded over a week and a half from perfect to funky cold booting error to can't boot at all. I changed nothing on my system during this time besides perhaps a few demo or program installs within winXP. I just don't get it. Its just so odd that all works great with my 9800pro and I simply put in the X800XT and blam, computer won't post. Any suggestions would be helpful, thank you. Btw, I consider myself VERY computer hardware and software savy so any tech speak is fine. Regards, Derek ================================================== ====== Edit: Since this email, I've borrowed my card to another different friend to test the video card in his system (very new Prescott system) and it works perfectly fine for him also. I'm guessing I have a motherboard problem. It's as though some component on my motherboard slowly burned up with the X800XT in my system and then degraded far enough that it prevents my system from booting up. However, at the same time something different about the 9800pro design doesn't require as much 'draw' from this degraded MB component and allows my system to work seemingly normally. This sound possible? Albatron K8T800ProII, ADATA PC4000 1 gig, athlon64 3200+, nothing overclocked |
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No offense cause I know you're trying to help but did you read my post
at all? Both questions you ask I have pretty much answered in my original post. And if it does work? Pseudo Namen wrote: Ok. Just checking. Now you need to try your x800XT on a friends computer, or your spare, etc.. If it doesn't work there, it is time for the good ole RMA. "Destroy" wrote in message ... Antec SL400. I've tried 2 quality power supplies, doubt that's the problem. Pseudo Namen wrote: Give make and model of your power supply? Just because it says 400watts, doesn't mean that is what you are getting. I paid 78.00 for my 420watt Enermax power suppy just a month ago from Newegg.com It works great, and keeps my system cooler too. "Destroy" wrote in message ... This is a copy and paste of an email I sent to ATI (which has gotten no response so far, big surprise there), NOT!! Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks ============================================== ======== Hi, Last week or so I was having to turn the computer off then back on again 2 times for the machine to get into bios, post and boot. Now this morning I go to turn my computer on and it beeps a cpu error everytime I try to to turn it on. Can't get it to post no matter what I do. Disconnected everything but vid and memory but still my computer just sits there fans going, harddrives going(when connected) but no video, no post and beep msg saying there is a cpu problem. I'm posting this with my old 9800pro which I had to stick back in and works fine so obviously there is no cpu problem. I can swap my X800XT and 9800pro all day and 9800pro allows my machine to post and boot properly with no problems while my X800XT hangs my system before bios. I'm wondering if its a power supply problem? I have a decent 400watt PS though. And I don't have another laying around to test with, arg. Bios reads: 1.53,3.26,4.94,11.85,12.36,2.91,5.56 for the various voltages. SandraSoft reads: 1.53,3.25,4.95,11.92,-12.53,-5.15,5.02,2.91 voltages. (These are with my 9800pro however. Can't read my X800 voltages cause I cant even get to bios.) Well I went a bought a quality Antec power supply to try - still doesn't work, can't post, same cpu beep code. Put 9800pro back in and going to drop vid card off at friends house for them to put in their system to test card. Seems I may have a card gone bad but won't know for sure. The odd thing is, my computer was working perfectly fine for a week with my new X800XT. After a week my machine started acting odd: on cold boot I would for some reason have to turn my machine on then off then on again to get it to boot into bios and continue normally. If I didn't do this my computer would sit there beeping the cpu error never getting into bios. Well just got a call from my friend who's testing out my X800XT for me in his(2 month old) athlon64 3200+ rig and it booted and worked fine in his computer. I'm having him do some a few cold boots before giving me the card back. (It booted and worked fine each time.) It's almost as though my computer slowly degraded over a week and a half from perfect to funky cold booting error to can't boot at all. I changed nothing on my system during this time besides perhaps a few demo or program installs within winXP. I just don't get it. Its just so odd that all works great with my 9800pro and I simply put in the X800XT and blam, computer won't post. Any suggestions would be helpful, thank you. Btw, I consider myself VERY computer hardware and software savy so any tech speak is fine. Regards, Derek ============================================== ========== Edit: Since this email, I've borrowed my card to another different friend to test the video card in his system (very new Prescott system) and it works perfectly fine for him also. I'm guessing I have a motherboard problem. It's as though some component on my motherboard slowly burned up with the X800XT in my system and then degraded far enough that it prevents my system from booting up. However, at the same time something different about the 9800pro design doesn't require as much 'draw' from this degraded MB component and allows my system to work seemingly normally. This sound possible? Albatron K8T800ProII, ADATA PC4000 1 gig, athlon64 3200+, nothing overclocked |
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Sorry. I just skimmed your original post. (
"Destroy" wrote in message ... No offense cause I know you're trying to help but did you read my post at all? Both questions you ask I have pretty much answered in my original post. And if it does work? Pseudo Namen wrote: Ok. Just checking. Now you need to try your x800XT on a friends computer, or your spare, etc.. If it doesn't work there, it is time for the good ole RMA. "Destroy" wrote in message ... Antec SL400. I've tried 2 quality power supplies, doubt that's the problem. Pseudo Namen wrote: Give make and model of your power supply? Just because it says 400watts, doesn't mean that is what you are getting. I paid 78.00 for my 420watt Enermax power suppy just a month ago from Newegg.com It works great, and keeps my system cooler too. "Destroy" wrote in message ... This is a copy and paste of an email I sent to ATI (which has gotten no response so far, big surprise there), NOT!! Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks ============================================= ========= Hi, Last week or so I was having to turn the computer off then back on again 2 times for the machine to get into bios, post and boot. Now this morning I go to turn my computer on and it beeps a cpu error everytime I try to to turn it on. Can't get it to post no matter what I do. Disconnected everything but vid and memory but still my computer just sits there fans going, harddrives going(when connected) but no video, no post and beep msg saying there is a cpu problem. I'm posting this with my old 9800pro which I had to stick back in and works fine so obviously there is no cpu problem. I can swap my X800XT and 9800pro all day and 9800pro allows my machine to post and boot properly with no problems while my X800XT hangs my system before bios. I'm wondering if its a power supply problem? I have a decent 400watt PS though. And I don't have another laying around to test with, arg. Bios reads: 1.53,3.26,4.94,11.85,12.36,2.91,5.56 for the various voltages. SandraSoft reads: 1.53,3.25,4.95,11.92,-12.53,-5.15,5.02,2.91 voltages. (These are with my 9800pro however. Can't read my X800 voltages cause I cant even get to bios.) Well I went a bought a quality Antec power supply to try - still doesn't work, can't post, same cpu beep code. Put 9800pro back in and going to drop vid card off at friends house for them to put in their system to test card. Seems I may have a card gone bad but won't know for sure. The odd thing is, my computer was working perfectly fine for a week with my new X800XT. After a week my machine started acting odd: on cold boot I would for some reason have to turn my machine on then off then on again to get it to boot into bios and continue normally. If I didn't do this my computer would sit there beeping the cpu error never getting into bios. Well just got a call from my friend who's testing out my X800XT for me in his(2 month old) athlon64 3200+ rig and it booted and worked fine in his computer. I'm having him do some a few cold boots before giving me the card back. (It booted and worked fine each time.) It's almost as though my computer slowly degraded over a week and a half from perfect to funky cold booting error to can't boot at all. I changed nothing on my system during this time besides perhaps a few demo or program installs within winXP. I just don't get it. Its just so odd that all works great with my 9800pro and I simply put in the X800XT and blam, computer won't post. Any suggestions would be helpful, thank you. Btw, I consider myself VERY computer hardware and software savy so any tech speak is fine. Regards, Derek ============================================= =========== Edit: Since this email, I've borrowed my card to another different friend to test the video card in his system (very new Prescott system) and it works perfectly fine for him also. I'm guessing I have a motherboard problem. It's as though some component on my motherboard slowly burned up with the X800XT in my system and then degraded far enough that it prevents my system from booting up. However, at the same time something different about the 9800pro design doesn't require as much 'draw' from this degraded MB component and allows my system to work seemingly normally. This sound possible? Albatron K8T800ProII, ADATA PC4000 1 gig, athlon64 3200+, nothing overclocked |
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P.S. Have you tried using another power connector from your PSU, one not
daisey chained to a hard drive, or CD/DVD type drive? "Pseudo Namen" wrote in message ... Sorry. I just skimmed your original post. ( "Destroy" wrote in message ... No offense cause I know you're trying to help but did you read my post at all? Both questions you ask I have pretty much answered in my original post. And if it does work? Pseudo Namen wrote: Ok. Just checking. Now you need to try your x800XT on a friends computer, or your spare, etc.. If it doesn't work there, it is time for the good ole RMA. "Destroy" wrote in message ... Antec SL400. I've tried 2 quality power supplies, doubt that's the problem. Pseudo Namen wrote: Give make and model of your power supply? Just because it says 400watts, doesn't mean that is what you are getting. I paid 78.00 for my 420watt Enermax power suppy just a month ago from Newegg.com It works great, and keeps my system cooler too. "Destroy" wrote in message ... This is a copy and paste of an email I sent to ATI (which has gotten no response so far, big surprise there), NOT!! Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks ============================================ ========== Hi, Last week or so I was having to turn the computer off then back on again 2 times for the machine to get into bios, post and boot. Now this morning I go to turn my computer on and it beeps a cpu error everytime I try to to turn it on. Can't get it to post no matter what I do. Disconnected everything but vid and memory but still my computer just sits there fans going, harddrives going(when connected) but no video, no post and beep msg saying there is a cpu problem. I'm posting this with my old 9800pro which I had to stick back in and works fine so obviously there is no cpu problem. I can swap my X800XT and 9800pro all day and 9800pro allows my machine to post and boot properly with no problems while my X800XT hangs my system before bios. I'm wondering if its a power supply problem? I have a decent 400watt PS though. And I don't have another laying around to test with, arg. Bios reads: 1.53,3.26,4.94,11.85,12.36,2.91,5.56 for the various voltages. SandraSoft reads: 1.53,3.25,4.95,11.92,-12.53,-5.15,5.02,2.91 voltages. (These are with my 9800pro however. Can't read my X800 voltages cause I cant even get to bios.) Well I went a bought a quality Antec power supply to try - still doesn't work, can't post, same cpu beep code. Put 9800pro back in and going to drop vid card off at friends house for them to put in their system to test card. Seems I may have a card gone bad but won't know for sure. The odd thing is, my computer was working perfectly fine for a week with my new X800XT. After a week my machine started acting odd: on cold boot I would for some reason have to turn my machine on then off then on again to get it to boot into bios and continue normally. If I didn't do this my computer would sit there beeping the cpu error never getting into bios. Well just got a call from my friend who's testing out my X800XT for me in his(2 month old) athlon64 3200+ rig and it booted and worked fine in his computer. I'm having him do some a few cold boots before giving me the card back. (It booted and worked fine each time.) It's almost as though my computer slowly degraded over a week and a half from perfect to funky cold booting error to can't boot at all. I changed nothing on my system during this time besides perhaps a few demo or program installs within winXP. I just don't get it. Its just so odd that all works great with my 9800pro and I simply put in the X800XT and blam, computer won't post. Any suggestions would be helpful, thank you. Btw, I consider myself VERY computer hardware and software savy so any tech speak is fine. Regards, Derek ============================================ ============ Edit: Since this email, I've borrowed my card to another different friend to test the video card in his system (very new Prescott system) and it works perfectly fine for him also. I'm guessing I have a motherboard problem. It's as though some component on my motherboard slowly burned up with the X800XT in my system and then degraded far enough that it prevents my system from booting up. However, at the same time something different about the 9800pro design doesn't require as much 'draw' from this degraded MB component and allows my system to work seemingly normally. This sound possible? Albatron K8T800ProII, ADATA PC4000 1 gig, athlon64 3200+, nothing overclocked |
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This is a copy and paste of an email I sent to ATI (which has gotten no response so far, big surprise there), NOT!! Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? thanks ================================================== ==== Hi, Last week or so I was having to turn the computer off then back on again 2 times for the machine to get into bios, post and boot. Now this morning I go to turn my computer on and it beeps a cpu error everytime I try to to turn it on. Can't get it to post no matter what I do. Disconnected everything but vid and memory but still my computer just sits there fans going, harddrives going(when connected) but no video, no post and beep msg saying there is a cpu problem. I'm posting this with my old 9800pro which I had to stick back in and works fine so obviously there is no cpu problem. I can swap my X800XT and 9800pro all day and 9800pro allows my machine to post and boot properly with no problems while my X800XT hangs my system before bios. I'm wondering if its a power supply problem? I have a decent 400watt PS though. And I don't have another laying around to test with, arg. Bios reads: 1.53,3.26,4.94,11.85,12.36,2.91,5.56 for the various voltages. SandraSoft reads: 1.53,3.25,4.95,11.92,-12.53,-5.15,5.02,2.91 voltages. (These are with my 9800pro however. Can't read my X800 voltages cause I cant even get to bios.) Well I went a bought a quality Antec power supply to try - still doesn't work, can't post, same cpu beep code. Put 9800pro back in and going to drop vid card off at friends house for them to put in their system to test card. Seems I may have a card gone bad but won't know for sure. The odd thing is, my computer was working perfectly fine for a week with my new X800XT. After a week my machine started acting odd: on cold boot I would for some reason have to turn my machine on then off then on again to get it to boot into bios and continue normally. If I didn't do this my computer would sit there beeping the cpu error never getting into bios. Well just got a call from my friend who's testing out my X800XT for me in his(2 month old) athlon64 3200+ rig and it booted and worked fine in his computer. I'm having him do some a few cold boots before giving me the card back. (It booted and worked fine each time.) It's almost as though my computer slowly degraded over a week and a half from perfect to funky cold booting error to can't boot at all. I changed nothing on my system during this time besides perhaps a few demo or program installs within winXP. I just don't get it. Its just so odd that all works great with my 9800pro and I simply put in the X800XT and blam, computer won't post. Any suggestions would be helpful, thank you. Btw, I consider myself VERY computer hardware and software savy so any tech speak is fine. Regards, Derek ================================================== ====== Edit: Since this email, I've borrowed my card to another different friend to test the video card in his system (very new Prescott system) and it works perfectly fine for him also. I'm guessing I have a motherboard problem. It's as though some component on my motherboard slowly burned up with the X800XT in my system and then degraded far enough that it prevents my system from booting up. However, at the same time something different about the 9800pro design doesn't require as much 'draw' from this degraded MB component and allows my system to work seemingly normally. This sound possible? Albatron K8T800ProII, ADATA PC4000 1 gig, athlon64 3200+, nothing overclocked I've read your post and the replies in a.c.p.v.ati; I've recently had a 1 year old Gigabyte P4 motherboard do something similar to me. It finally got so it wouldn't post at all. Even switching video cards didn't help. Each of your busses have power regulation. On my GA8-iHXP there was one that 'cooked out', and became unreliable. There are actually 3 of these in parallel, so that enough current is provided to the PCI bus and to the AGP bus (slot). One finally failed completely, it was a 5V- regulator and supplies the 3.3v and 1.5v regulators. You can lose part of your onboard voltage regulation and the system will be non functional, reduce the load enough on the affected bus and the system can appear reliable. But it will be just a matter of time and that failing component will give out completely, as did mine. The conditions made it look like it could be the power supply at first, but that proved fine on another machine. Same for the CPU, video card, sound card, ram DIMMs. I tried two different CPU's and both behaved the same, a different PS and vid card, same. It was the motherboard. You've proved the X800XT to be fine on two other systems. Your process of elimination point firmly to the mobos onboard voltage regulation. So now the mobo is shot, why? Well, the newer video cards DO require a seperate power cable. BUT are the cards designed to really use that external (to the AGP bus itself) power so that the load on the AGP bus is actually alleviated? It doesn't look like it. It appears the fan only is run from this external power cable. That's not helpful when the bus' voltage regulator is designed for 1 amp max and the card itself pulls almost an amp at 'idle'. It sounds to me that either the mobo designers are skimping a bit on design criteria for the AGP version 3 bus (calls for 2 amps) or the vid card makers are allowing their boards needs to push the 3.0 design specs over the boundaries. Or some of each. Either way, I am seeing a *lot* of this kind of thing happening with the widespread use of AGP3.0 specs. It's stacking up to be something close to a 8% failure rate of motherboards because of this. Hm. Now take note that the particular kind of failure is due only to use of video cards with need for external power cable and at a guess, failure rate is upwards of 20%. This is just me talking aloud with what I've personally had to look at locally. No matter which way I paint it now, it's something to definitely take notice of. And that we consumers have seen and discussed it in public, you can bet the concerned interests have noted it as well. McG. |
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OldFartJAC wrote:
What is the beep code it gives you on POST? He mentions, three times, in his post that it's a "CPU error" beep code The first thing I would look at is the voltage regulator capacitors. My guess would be that the X800 is drawing more than the 9800 and the CPU isn't getting a good stable voltage supply due to a failed filtering cap. These are the usual culprit when higher-powered degrade over time, but lower-power ones still work fine. See if the top is bulging or if there's a small hole in the top of any of the motherboard or video card capacitors. The big ones are usually the ones to go Sticking a POST-code reading card in your computer would give you more detailed information on where it's failing, but it's not exactly like everyone has one of those in their spare-bits box. Another thing to try is to heavily underclock the CPU. Using the 9800, set the multiplier and HT speeds as low as possible. This will lighten the load on the voltage regulators a lot. Essentially wind everything down to the slowest possible settings in the BIOS using the 9800, then slowly increase things again until it breaks with the X800. Finally, try not connecting the HDD power cables to the X800. It should still boot and warn you about your "mistake", and will possibly lower the draw from the PSU (though may increase the draw from the M/B, not entirely sure). However, since the X800Pro has a lower total power usage than the 9800Pro (IIRC), I'd be surprised if it's PSU issues. [...] -- Michael Brown www.emboss.co.nz : OOS/RSI software and more Add michael@ to emboss.co.nz - My inbox is always open |
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