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AMD XP 3000+ or AMD64
Prices on the AMD64 have dropped considerably since I bought mine. Given the
choice, I would certainly opt for the 64. Even without a 64bit OS, it's an improvement over the Athlon chip because of the way it handles memory. If you do go with the AMD64, get quality memory, and I would suggest a minimum of PC3500. If you read the AMD forums, you'll see a lot of post concerning memory problems. I had to change Kingston HyperX PC3200 to Mushkin Level 1 PC3500 to stop random reboots (regardless of application). The system is now stable, and runs very well. Fitz |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 07:51:10 +0100, "*** JB"
wrote: Is it worth me paying a little bit more for an AMD64 Processor/Mainboard combo Yes -- Avenger© "Put the CAT out to reply" *I DETEST Spam - A Spam Hater since 1951* |
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"*** JB" wrote in
: Is it worth me paying a little bit more for an AMD64 Processor/Mainboard combo or should I stick with the slightly older 3000+ processer / mainboard combo? Definitely worth it. Onboard memory controller alone makes it worth it. And the idea that one day you may have a 64-bit OS and a 64-bit version of Doom3 or a 64-bit Windows port of UT2k4 is just icing on the cake. |
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 23:42:22 -0800, Fitz wrote:
Prices on the AMD64 have dropped considerably since I bought mine. Given the choice, I would certainly opt for the 64. Even without a 64bit OS, it's an improvement over the Athlon chip because of the way it handles memory. If you do go with the AMD64, get quality memory, and I would suggest a minimum of PC3500. If you read the AMD forums, you'll see a lot of post concerning memory problems. I had to change Kingston HyperX PC3200 to Mushkin Level 1 PC3500 to stop random reboots (regardless of application). The system is now stable, and runs very well. Fitz The Athlon 64 is screaming fast. For a desktop I'd go with a 939 pin part which has twice the memory bandwidth and a lower load on each bus (2 rather than 3 dimms). I have an A64 laptop (754 pin, 3400+), all my benchmarking shows it to be equivalent to a 4-5GHz Xeon (depending on application). Mandrake 10.0 AMD64 edition installed without a problem. |
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Are you building a new pc, or do you already have an XP3000+?
What types of software do you run? If you run only business applications, then an XP3000+ would be fine. If you run multimedia, games, or other large bandwidth applications, then you should get an Athlon 64. *** JB wrote: Is it worth me paying a little bit more for an AMD64 Processor/Mainboard combo or should I stick with the slightly older 3000+ processer / mainboard combo? What are everyones views? thanks |
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cheers for all the advice guys - looks like i'll go for the AMD64 Combo soon
"*** JB" wrote in message ... Is it worth me paying a little bit more for an AMD64 Processor/Mainboard combo or should I stick with the slightly older 3000+ processer / mainboard combo? What are everyones views? thanks |
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General Schvantzkoph wrote in
news The Athlon 64 is screaming fast. For a desktop I'd go with a 939 pin part which has twice the memory bandwidth and a lower load on each bus (2 rather than 3 dimms). I have an A64 laptop (754 pin, 3400+), all my benchmarking shows it to be equivalent to a 4-5GHz Xeon (depending on application). Mandrake 10.0 AMD64 edition installed without a problem. Which laptop did you finally decide to get? Thanks. |
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 02:44:50 +0000, -- wrote:
General Schvantzkoph wrote in news The Athlon 64 is screaming fast. For a desktop I'd go with a 939 pin part which has twice the memory bandwidth and a lower load on each bus (2 rather than 3 dimms). I have an A64 laptop (754 pin, 3400+), all my benchmarking shows it to be equivalent to a 4-5GHz Xeon (depending on application). Mandrake 10.0 AMD64 edition installed without a problem. Which laptop did you finally decide to get? Thanks. I got the Compaq R3000z with an Athlon 64 3400+, 1G RAM, 60G drive, 1680x1050 screen and built in 802.11G. The 802.11G card was free otherwise I wouldn't have gotten it since it's useless (no Linux drivers and no 64 bit Windows drivers which are necessary for ndiswrapper). The Compaq R3000z and the HP zv5000z are identical except for color. The HP cost $200 more, not clear why. The big screen is nice but It makes the laptop a little unwieldy, I think if I had it to do over I'd get the smaller screen. The one thing I absolutely would not buy again is the HP carrying case, it's not much better than a shopping bag. The case came in a bundle with a mouse and a USB cable, skip it and just get a third party mouse and case. I put Mandrake 10.0 AMD64 edition on it. It installed without to much fiddling. The only thing that required any hacking was the XFConfig file to get it to support the 1680x1050 screen. If you get the standard screen it will work right out of the box. The other thing that I had to do was build a 2.6.8.1 kernel to get the Cool & Quiet clock speed control to work. That was very simple to do. Once you have a kernel that supports Cool & QUiet, switching clock speeds is trivial, just echo the clock speed into the scaling_setspeed file. echo 2200000 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed |
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:27:59 -0400, Duddits wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 00:11:22 -0400, General Schvantzkoph wrote: The HP cost $200 more, not clear why. Check again. They are within `$25.00 if identical options are selected. regards Dud Not even close, With the following features Athlon 64 3400+ XP Pro 1680x1050 LCD 64MB Nvidia 1G DDR (2x512) 60GB drive DVD + CDRW 54g 802.11b,g 12 Cell Lithium battery Compaq R3000z $1523 HP xv5000z $1823 That's $300 difference not $25 |
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General Schvantzkoph wrote in
news On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 02:44:50 +0000, -- wrote: General Schvantzkoph wrote in news The Athlon 64 is screaming fast. For a desktop I'd go with a 939 pin part which has twice the memory bandwidth and a lower load on each bus (2 rather than 3 dimms). I have an A64 laptop (754 pin, 3400+), all my benchmarking shows it to be equivalent to a 4-5GHz Xeon (depending on application). Mandrake 10.0 AMD64 edition installed without a problem. Which laptop did you finally decide to get? Thanks. I got the Compaq R3000z with an Athlon 64 3400+, 1G RAM, 60G drive, 1680x1050 screen and built in 802.11G. The 802.11G card was free otherwise I wouldn't have gotten it since it's useless (no Linux drivers and no 64 bit Windows drivers which are necessary for ndiswrapper). The Compaq R3000z and the HP zv5000z are identical except for color. The HP cost $200 more, not clear why. The big screen is nice but It makes the laptop a little unwieldy, I think if I had it to do over I'd get the smaller screen. The one thing I absolutely would not buy again is the HP carrying case, it's not much better than a shopping bag. The case came in a bundle with a mouse and a USB cable, skip it and just get a third party mouse and case. I put Mandrake 10.0 AMD64 edition on it. It installed without to much fiddling. The only thing that required any hacking was the XFConfig file to get it to support the 1680x1050 screen. If you get the standard screen it will work right out of the box. The other thing that I had to do was build a 2.6.8.1 kernel to get the Cool & Quiet clock speed control to work. That was very simple to do. Once you have a kernel that supports Cool & QUiet, switching clock speeds is trivial, just echo the clock speed into the scaling_setspeed file. echo 2200000 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed Thanks for the detailed report. Two questions: 1) How noisy or quite is this laptop? 2) What are your impressions of the nVidia video card? Thanks again. |
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