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P4C800-E Deluxe mouse and SATA problem
Hello.
Maybe somebody has come across and can suggest a solution to the following: I've replaced a burned Intel mobo with an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe one, a 3.2 P4 and 1G Kingston memory in a box with a 450W suply. I've also replaced my old GF4 Asus with a new one (Asus 5950 Ultra). I transferred the CD drives and my old Western Digital disks (connected to a Promise controller) into the new system and added a 160GB WD SATA (conected to the motherboard). The configuration now is: Primary IDE master: LG multi DVD drive Primary IDE slave: not connected Secondary IDE master: Samsung DVD-ROM SD-616F Secondary IDE slave: Teac CD writer Third IDE master: WD SATA 160 no other connections. On a Promise card Ultra 133TX2 there are 3 WD hard disks. D0 is primary and boot, D1 and D2 are extended partitions. The new 160GB SATA is also formatted as an extended partition and is currently completely empty. Using BIOS defaults, or setting the system to IDE instead of RAID (which is not), or disabling the raid controler, or updating to BIOS 1016, gives the exact same problems. 1) On the times I manage to boot into XP SP1, the PS2 mouse is frozen. Changing mice makes no difference. A USB mouse works fine. 2) On the BIOS post, 99% of the times, the Samsung CD ROM does not show as secondary IDE master (shows as not connected). When I click on it, it finds it fine so it shows on the main BIOS page. But, it disappears on the next boot. 3) Again on BIOS post, the SATA is most of the times invisible. A few reboots later, it appears. When it does, it is set as a boot device overriding the drive D0 that I had set up, so I have to redo that part and hope it will see the SATA on the reboot. All in all, a veritable mess. So what do I do? Do I have a lemon of a mobo? Is it some configuration trick that I miss? Is it a conflict with my Promise Ultra 1133TX2? If so, how else can I connect all these devices and make sure they work? (The reason for that Promise controller was to manage my disks so I could use the onboard IDE for the CDs. Managing the CDs with the controler instead, wouldn't work. The CD writers wouldn't operate at their full speed.) Any suggestions? (other than doing a fresh install of XP which I'm not about to do and would rather throw out the Asus). Thanks in advance for any help. |
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Not a lot of help here, but I have seen other folks who have discovered
that XP does not deal well with swapping motherboards out from under it. I have seen references to some fix you can get that will force XP to essentially start from scratch and rescan all the hardward, but unfortunately do not remember any of the details of that fix, perhaps some web searches would turn it up? |
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"Thomas A. Horsley" wrote in message ... Not a lot of help here, but I have seen other folks who have discovered that XP does not deal well with swapping motherboards out from under it. I have seen references to some fix you can get that will force XP to essentially start from scratch and rescan all the hardward, but unfortunately do not remember any of the details of that fix, perhaps some web searches would turn it up? Is this the site you were thinking about? http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html HTH, Tom |
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Is this the site you were thinking about?
http://michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html I don't really remember, though it certainly looks similar, but I could swear I've seen something once about getting XP to rescan all the hardware without the full repair install. I guess the main reason I don't remember much is that I always look on a motherboard swap as a good opportunity to clean out all the old junk an reinstall from scratch :-). -- == The *Best* political site URL:http://www.vote-smart.org/ ==+ email: icbm: Delray Beach, FL | URL:http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley Free Software and Politics ==+ |
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If I'm reading your post correctly, you have two Ultra133 HDDs connected to
a PCI Promise controller. There might be a conflict here. You don't need the PCI Promise controller, remove it and connect your two Ultra133 HDDs to the onboard Promise controller. Make sure the onboard Promise controller Operating Mode is set to IDE. This will eliminate the possibility of a conflict from the PCI controller. Make sure you check the jumpers on all HDDs and CDD/DVDs. If the system still don't work correctly, post your new configuration, we may be of further help. "kanenas" wrote in message om... Hello. Maybe somebody has come across and can suggest a solution to the following: I've replaced a burned Intel mobo with an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe one, a 3.2 P4 and 1G Kingston memory in a box with a 450W suply. I've also replaced my old GF4 Asus with a new one (Asus 5950 Ultra). I transferred the CD drives and my old Western Digital disks (connected to a Promise controller) into the new system and added a 160GB WD SATA (conected to the motherboard). The configuration now is: Primary IDE master: LG multi DVD drive Primary IDE slave: not connected Secondary IDE master: Samsung DVD-ROM SD-616F Secondary IDE slave: Teac CD writer Third IDE master: WD SATA 160 no other connections. On a Promise card Ultra 133TX2 there are 3 WD hard disks. D0 is primary and boot, D1 and D2 are extended partitions. The new 160GB SATA is also formatted as an extended partition and is currently completely empty. Using BIOS defaults, or setting the system to IDE instead of RAID (which is not), or disabling the raid controler, or updating to BIOS 1016, gives the exact same problems. 1) On the times I manage to boot into XP SP1, the PS2 mouse is frozen. Changing mice makes no difference. A USB mouse works fine. 2) On the BIOS post, 99% of the times, the Samsung CD ROM does not show as secondary IDE master (shows as not connected). When I click on it, it finds it fine so it shows on the main BIOS page. But, it disappears on the next boot. 3) Again on BIOS post, the SATA is most of the times invisible. A few reboots later, it appears. When it does, it is set as a boot device overriding the drive D0 that I had set up, so I have to redo that part and hope it will see the SATA on the reboot. All in all, a veritable mess. So what do I do? Do I have a lemon of a mobo? Is it some configuration trick that I miss? Is it a conflict with my Promise Ultra 1133TX2? If so, how else can I connect all these devices and make sure they work? (The reason for that Promise controller was to manage my disks so I could use the onboard IDE for the CDs. Managing the CDs with the controler instead, wouldn't work. The CD writers wouldn't operate at their full speed.) Any suggestions? (other than doing a fresh install of XP which I'm not about to do and would rather throw out the Asus). Thanks in advance for any help. |
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Thank you all for the responses.
The only problem fixed as of now is the one with the invisible Samsung CD. I put on the primary IDE cable the Teac CD writer and the LG Multi DVD (as primary and slave respectively) and on the secondary IDE the Samsung CD as a master. It worked that way even though I don't know why it had a conflict before. The PS2 mouse is still dead. I removed the mouse entry from Windows, shut down, plugged the PS2 mouse in, rebooted. Windows creates an entry for a PS2 mouse that shows no errors but the mouse is frozen. It looks like an IRQ conflict but nothing is flagged with any warnings. Probably an IRQ share problem but how. The PS2 mouse shows as using ISA IRQ 12 and is the only device using this. Is the Asus sharing IRQ 12 behind the scene? The SATA remains unrecognized during the last few reboots and makes a clicking noise now and then. If the clicking starts while I'm doing something on the Windows screen, it even corrupts the display and I have to reboot. On the Promise card I have three WD hard disks. The first contains my boot partition and an extended one and the others are only extended partitions. On the motherboard I have the SATA as an extended partition (on Intel SATA1 connector) and the three CD drives on the normal IDE channels. In the BIOS I have disabled the Promise SATA controller (I don't even use its connectors) and the AC'97 audio (I have an Audigy). The IDE configuration is set to enhanced on SATA (I've tried too SATA+PATA). The only other card in the system is a 4-port firewire (800 speed). The above configuration was picked and dropped from the old system to the new. No problems with the old hardware (except the mouse now). Thanks again for the help. "Anon" wrote in message news:7V1cc.41187$wl1.4413@fed1read06... If I'm reading your post correctly, you have two Ultra133 HDDs connected to a PCI Promise controller. There might be a conflict here. You don't need the PCI Promise controller, remove it and connect your two Ultra133 HDDs to the onboard Promise controller. Make sure the onboard Promise controller Operating Mode is set to IDE. This will eliminate the possibility of a conflict from the PCI controller. Make sure you check the jumpers on all HDDs and CDD/DVDs. If the system still don't work correctly, post your new configuration, we may be of further help. "kanenas" wrote in message om... Hello. Maybe somebody has come across and can suggest a solution to the following: I've replaced a burned Intel mobo with an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe one, a 3.2 P4 and 1G Kingston memory in a box with a 450W suply. I've also replaced my old GF4 Asus with a new one (Asus 5950 Ultra). I transferred the CD drives and my old Western Digital disks (connected to a Promise controller) into the new system and added a 160GB WD SATA (conected to the motherboard). The configuration now is: Primary IDE master: LG multi DVD drive Primary IDE slave: not connected Secondary IDE master: Samsung DVD-ROM SD-616F Secondary IDE slave: Teac CD writer Third IDE master: WD SATA 160 no other connections. On a Promise card Ultra 133TX2 there are 3 WD hard disks. D0 is primary and boot, D1 and D2 are extended partitions. The new 160GB SATA is also formatted as an extended partition and is currently completely empty. Using BIOS defaults, or setting the system to IDE instead of RAID (which is not), or disabling the raid controler, or updating to BIOS 1016, gives the exact same problems. 1) On the times I manage to boot into XP SP1, the PS2 mouse is frozen. Changing mice makes no difference. A USB mouse works fine. 2) On the BIOS post, 99% of the times, the Samsung CD ROM does not show as secondary IDE master (shows as not connected). When I click on it, it finds it fine so it shows on the main BIOS page. But, it disappears on the next boot. 3) Again on BIOS post, the SATA is most of the times invisible. A few reboots later, it appears. When it does, it is set as a boot device overriding the drive D0 that I had set up, so I have to redo that part and hope it will see the SATA on the reboot. All in all, a veritable mess. So what do I do? Do I have a lemon of a mobo? Is it some configuration trick that I miss? Is it a conflict with my Promise Ultra 1133TX2? If so, how else can I connect all these devices and make sure they work? (The reason for that Promise controller was to manage my disks so I could use the onboard IDE for the CDs. Managing the CDs with the controler instead, wouldn't work. The CD writers wouldn't operate at their full speed.) Any suggestions? (other than doing a fresh install of XP which I'm not about to do and would rather throw out the Asus). Thanks in advance for any help. |
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If I were you, I would get down to basics. Remove all PCI cards, FDD and
HDDs. Connect the HDD with your boot partition to the onboard primary controller. Make sure it is jumpered as a single drive master. Reset the BIOS to default. If it still don't recognize the drive and boot, don't discount the possibility of a memory problem. Add the FDD and run memtest86. If it still don't work, I would call the vender and tell them you have a bad MB. "kanenas" wrote in message om... Thank you all for the responses. The only problem fixed as of now is the one with the invisible Samsung CD. I put on the primary IDE cable the Teac CD writer and the LG Multi DVD (as primary and slave respectively) and on the secondary IDE the Samsung CD as a master. It worked that way even though I don't know why it had a conflict before. The PS2 mouse is still dead. I removed the mouse entry from Windows, shut down, plugged the PS2 mouse in, rebooted. Windows creates an entry for a PS2 mouse that shows no errors but the mouse is frozen. It looks like an IRQ conflict but nothing is flagged with any warnings. Probably an IRQ share problem but how. The PS2 mouse shows as using ISA IRQ 12 and is the only device using this. Is the Asus sharing IRQ 12 behind the scene? The SATA remains unrecognized during the last few reboots and makes a clicking noise now and then. If the clicking starts while I'm doing something on the Windows screen, it even corrupts the display and I have to reboot. On the Promise card I have three WD hard disks. The first contains my boot partition and an extended one and the others are only extended partitions. On the motherboard I have the SATA as an extended partition (on Intel SATA1 connector) and the three CD drives on the normal IDE channels. In the BIOS I have disabled the Promise SATA controller (I don't even use its connectors) and the AC'97 audio (I have an Audigy). The IDE configuration is set to enhanced on SATA (I've tried too SATA+PATA). The only other card in the system is a 4-port firewire (800 speed). The above configuration was picked and dropped from the old system to the new. No problems with the old hardware (except the mouse now). Thanks again for the help. "Anon" wrote in message news:7V1cc.41187$wl1.4413@fed1read06... If I'm reading your post correctly, you have two Ultra133 HDDs connected to a PCI Promise controller. There might be a conflict here. You don't need the PCI Promise controller, remove it and connect your two Ultra133 HDDs to the onboard Promise controller. Make sure the onboard Promise controller Operating Mode is set to IDE. This will eliminate the possibility of a conflict from the PCI controller. Make sure you check the jumpers on all HDDs and CDD/DVDs. If the system still don't work correctly, post your new configuration, we may be of further help. "kanenas" wrote in message om... Hello. Maybe somebody has come across and can suggest a solution to the following: I've replaced a burned Intel mobo with an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe one, a 3.2 P4 and 1G Kingston memory in a box with a 450W suply. I've also replaced my old GF4 Asus with a new one (Asus 5950 Ultra). I transferred the CD drives and my old Western Digital disks (connected to a Promise controller) into the new system and added a 160GB WD SATA (conected to the motherboard). The configuration now is: Primary IDE master: LG multi DVD drive Primary IDE slave: not connected Secondary IDE master: Samsung DVD-ROM SD-616F Secondary IDE slave: Teac CD writer Third IDE master: WD SATA 160 no other connections. On a Promise card Ultra 133TX2 there are 3 WD hard disks. D0 is primary and boot, D1 and D2 are extended partitions. The new 160GB SATA is also formatted as an extended partition and is currently completely empty. Using BIOS defaults, or setting the system to IDE instead of RAID (which is not), or disabling the raid controler, or updating to BIOS 1016, gives the exact same problems. 1) On the times I manage to boot into XP SP1, the PS2 mouse is frozen. Changing mice makes no difference. A USB mouse works fine. 2) On the BIOS post, 99% of the times, the Samsung CD ROM does not show as secondary IDE master (shows as not connected). When I click on it, it finds it fine so it shows on the main BIOS page. But, it disappears on the next boot. 3) Again on BIOS post, the SATA is most of the times invisible. A few reboots later, it appears. When it does, it is set as a boot device overriding the drive D0 that I had set up, so I have to redo that part and hope it will see the SATA on the reboot. All in all, a veritable mess. So what do I do? Do I have a lemon of a mobo? Is it some configuration trick that I miss? Is it a conflict with my Promise Ultra 1133TX2? If so, how else can I connect all these devices and make sure they work? (The reason for that Promise controller was to manage my disks so I could use the onboard IDE for the CDs. Managing the CDs with the controler instead, wouldn't work. The CD writers wouldn't operate at their full speed.) Any suggestions? (other than doing a fresh install of XP which I'm not about to do and would rather throw out the Asus). Thanks in advance for any help. |
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I'll be trying that tonight in case it's an IRQ share problem.
No problem with booting into XP though. It's just that the SATA (empty disk for now) is not recognized. "Anon" wrote in message news:y0bcc.41350$wl1.734@fed1read06... If I were you, I would get down to basics. Remove all PCI cards, FDD and HDDs. Connect the HDD with your boot partition to the onboard primary controller. Make sure it is jumpered as a single drive master. Reset the BIOS to default. If it still don't recognize the drive and boot, don't discount the possibility of a memory problem. Add the FDD and run memtest86. If it still don't work, I would call the vender and tell them you have a bad MB. "kanenas" wrote in message om... Thank you all for the responses. The only problem fixed as of now is the one with the invisible Samsung CD. I put on the primary IDE cable the Teac CD writer and the LG Multi DVD (as primary and slave respectively) and on the secondary IDE the Samsung CD as a master. It worked that way even though I don't know why it had a conflict before. The PS2 mouse is still dead. I removed the mouse entry from Windows, shut down, plugged the PS2 mouse in, rebooted. Windows creates an entry for a PS2 mouse that shows no errors but the mouse is frozen. It looks like an IRQ conflict but nothing is flagged with any warnings. Probably an IRQ share problem but how. The PS2 mouse shows as using ISA IRQ 12 and is the only device using this. Is the Asus sharing IRQ 12 behind the scene? The SATA remains unrecognized during the last few reboots and makes a clicking noise now and then. If the clicking starts while I'm doing something on the Windows screen, it even corrupts the display and I have to reboot. On the Promise card I have three WD hard disks. The first contains my boot partition and an extended one and the others are only extended partitions. On the motherboard I have the SATA as an extended partition (on Intel SATA1 connector) and the three CD drives on the normal IDE channels. In the BIOS I have disabled the Promise SATA controller (I don't even use its connectors) and the AC'97 audio (I have an Audigy). The IDE configuration is set to enhanced on SATA (I've tried too SATA+PATA). The only other card in the system is a 4-port firewire (800 speed). The above configuration was picked and dropped from the old system to the new. No problems with the old hardware (except the mouse now). Thanks again for the help. "Anon" wrote in message news:7V1cc.41187$wl1.4413@fed1read06... If I'm reading your post correctly, you have two Ultra133 HDDs connected to a PCI Promise controller. There might be a conflict here. You don't need the PCI Promise controller, remove it and connect your two Ultra133 HDDs to the onboard Promise controller. Make sure the onboard Promise controller Operating Mode is set to IDE. This will eliminate the possibility of a conflict from the PCI controller. Make sure you check the jumpers on all HDDs and CDD/DVDs. If the system still don't work correctly, post your new configuration, we may be of further help. "kanenas" wrote in message om... Hello. Maybe somebody has come across and can suggest a solution to the following: I've replaced a burned Intel mobo with an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe one, a 3.2 P4 and 1G Kingston memory in a box with a 450W suply. I've also replaced my old GF4 Asus with a new one (Asus 5950 Ultra). I transferred the CD drives and my old Western Digital disks (connected to a Promise controller) into the new system and added a 160GB WD SATA (conected to the motherboard). The configuration now is: Primary IDE master: LG multi DVD drive Primary IDE slave: not connected Secondary IDE master: Samsung DVD-ROM SD-616F Secondary IDE slave: Teac CD writer Third IDE master: WD SATA 160 no other connections. On a Promise card Ultra 133TX2 there are 3 WD hard disks. D0 is primary and boot, D1 and D2 are extended partitions. The new 160GB SATA is also formatted as an extended partition and is currently completely empty. Using BIOS defaults, or setting the system to IDE instead of RAID (which is not), or disabling the raid controler, or updating to BIOS 1016, gives the exact same problems. 1) On the times I manage to boot into XP SP1, the PS2 mouse is frozen. Changing mice makes no difference. A USB mouse works fine. 2) On the BIOS post, 99% of the times, the Samsung CD ROM does not show as secondary IDE master (shows as not connected). When I click on it, it finds it fine so it shows on the main BIOS page. But, it disappears on the next boot. 3) Again on BIOS post, the SATA is most of the times invisible. A few reboots later, it appears. When it does, it is set as a boot device overriding the drive D0 that I had set up, so I have to redo that part and hope it will see the SATA on the reboot. All in all, a veritable mess. So what do I do? Do I have a lemon of a mobo? Is it some configuration trick that I miss? Is it a conflict with my Promise Ultra 1133TX2? If so, how else can I connect all these devices and make sure they work? (The reason for that Promise controller was to manage my disks so I could use the onboard IDE for the CDs. Managing the CDs with the controler instead, wouldn't work. The CD writers wouldn't operate at their full speed.) Any suggestions? (other than doing a fresh install of XP which I'm not about to do and would rather throw out the Asus). Thanks in advance for any help. |
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"kanenas" wrote in message om... The latest is the misandentures: I removed the SATA disk. Even disconnected from the motherboard and just connected to a power plug, it was making a clicking noise now and then. I'm waiting for a replacement now. The PS2 mouse is still visible but frozen in Windows. Booting in MSDOS and using some mouse-controlled DOS program (Edit.com) the mouse behaves nicely. Something wrong with the XP driver then or a conflict. The ocassional screen freeze I had attributed to the misbehaving SATA drive seems to have been a wrong assumption. snip If you aren't willing to do a fresh install of XP, then how can you expect to troubleshoot all these issues? (I may have missed it, but you originally said you were still running the Intel Mainboard install of XP). If you have all these HDD's around, format one and put XP on it. Bet it works just fine. |
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