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Old December 12th 04, 06:03 PM
Mr Jessop
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i have the suse9.1 iso. copied to cd. nothing. tried nero burn and burn
to iso. kept coming up with no disk in drive and wouldn't burn.
Tried copying extra files that were included in pc format distro folder.
Same error message.

So tried nero burn express with pc format distro stuff as well as iso.
Hurrah a bootable suse disk.

Got alot of caldera and dr dos messages. then the thing stopped at
"ntfs -(u) or some such"

"no fat32 found"

I'm assuming this particular distro is looking for something in order to
produce a dual boot. Or perhaps its not expecting the drive to already be
partitioned. Going into drive c in windows shows the drive is empty yet of
course it isn't. Can't format C it says part of it is in use. So now what?


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Old December 12th 04, 06:23 PM
Will Dormann
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Mr Jessop wrote:
i have the suse9.1 iso. copied to cd. nothing. tried nero burn and burn
to iso. kept coming up with no disk in drive and wouldn't burn.
Tried copying extra files that were included in pc format distro folder.
Same error message.


What does this have to do with linux?

Your problem lies within being able to burn a CD from an ISO. With my
version of Nero at least, I select File - Open, open the ISO, and then
burn.


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-WD
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Old December 12th 04, 09:15 PM
Mr Jessop
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"Will Dormann" wrote in message
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Mr Jessop wrote:
i have the suse9.1 iso. copied to cd. nothing. tried nero burn and
burn to iso. kept coming up with no disk in drive and wouldn't burn.
Tried copying extra files that were included in pc format distro folder.
Same error message.


What does this have to do with linux?

Your problem lies within being able to burn a CD from an ISO. With my
version of Nero at least, I select File - Open, open the ISO, and then
burn.


Thanks. I suppose the questions i should have raised was

1. are the extra files outside the iso such as md55ums.asc necessary for the
burn.

1.b if not would adding them cause the failed install so early on.

2. Although selecting iso in nero rom what selection did i miss out for it
to suggest that there was no disk in the drive.


I believe you have partly answered question 2 for me. selecting the open
iso in nero rom. I suppose nero express did that for me.

so

2b. Was the disk it was asking for not in fact a blank disk but the iso to
be opened?


3. Is there a linux utility or any other that will allow me to format the
c: drive as windows explorer won't. pcformat suggested
"7tools partitioner"

4. I have two drives. The second is currently f and g drive. it is cable
selected. so to make it the master i merely swap it with the 40gb or remove
it altogether. This is easy as i have swappable caddies (25 seconds at
most). But the 2nd drive doesn't have bootable partitions. will the
standard suse disk do all the formatting stuff for me and dual booting or do
i have to have the win xp installed on the drive in one big partition and
have the suse thing resize and set up the dual boot system? If the answer
is the latter then hopefull i would end up with linux on one partition and
xp on the other with the partitions created for me.

So in summary is my best move to remove current installed 40gb. Replace
with 120gb and clean install one giant partition with xp. Then run suse
disk to create a partition and size it?


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Old December 12th 04, 10:21 PM
Will Dormann
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Mr Jessop wrote:
1. are the extra files outside the iso such as md55ums.asc necessary for the
burn.


An ISO file is a disc image. Any extra files are not necessary.


1.b if not would adding them cause the failed install so early on.


How could you have possibly "added" them? Unless you have burned a CD
that *contains* that ISO file and other stuff. (Why?)


2. Although selecting iso in nero rom what selection did i miss out for it
to suggest that there was no disk in the drive.


Make sure you have the proper CD burner selected before opening the ISO.
And make sure there is a blank CD in that drive.


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-WD
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Old December 13th 04, 12:55 AM
Mr Jessop
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"Will Dormann" wrote in message
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Mr Jessop wrote:
1. are the extra files outside the iso such as md55ums.asc necessary for
the burn.


An ISO file is a disc image. Any extra files are not necessary.


1.b if not would adding them cause the failed install so early on.


How could you have possibly "added" them? Unless you have burned a CD
that *contains* that ISO file and other stuff. (Why?)


Well without the extra files i the thing didn't work. The extra files were
in the same folder as the iso. such as readme. copyright and the suse logo
as a gif. So i copied and pasted all that next to the iso.



2. Although selecting iso in nero rom what selection did i miss out for
it to suggest that there was no disk in the drive.


Make sure you have the proper CD burner selected before opening the ISO.


I only have the one.

And make sure there is a blank CD in that drive.


Yep. It actually spat it out when the error message came up. So i tried
nero express instead. selected bootable rom. copied the iso to the 'burn'
browser. plus all those little files that were in the same folder as the
suse iso.


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-WD



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Old December 13th 04, 01:23 AM
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"Mr Jessop" wrote in
.uk:

"Will Dormann" wrote in message
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Mr Jessop wrote:
1. are the extra files outside the iso such as md55ums.asc necessary
for the burn.


An ISO file is a disc image. Any extra files are not necessary.


1.b if not would adding them cause the failed install so early on.


How could you have possibly "added" them? Unless you have burned a
CD that *contains* that ISO file and other stuff. (Why?)


Well without the extra files i the thing didn't work. The extra files
were in the same folder as the iso. such as readme. copyright and
the suse logo as a gif. So i copied and pasted all that next to the
iso.


An ISO should not have anything next to it. In recorder select it using
"Recorder-Burn Image" But first it's **important** that you test the
md5sum of your ISO file. Make sure it is the same as your md5sum.asc
file (thats what its for).

When you burn, choose a clean blank disk and burn at some ridiculously
low speed (eg 8x) with Nero (You have version 6.x.x.x ?)

3. Failing that try burning at a slow speed with CDBurnerXP Pro (It's
free)
(In this case choose File-Write Image From ISO Disc)


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Old December 13th 04, 03:00 AM
Ruel Smith
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Mr Jessop wrote:

Yep. It actually spat it out when the error message came up. So i tried
nero express instead. selected bootable rom. copied the iso to the
'burn'
browser. plus all those little files that were in the same folder as the
suse iso.


You don't need those extra files. Mr. Dormann is correct that an ISO is a
disc image. In Nero Express, you should choose "Disc Image or Saved
Project" from the box under "What would you like to burn?", and then
navigate to the ISO and select it. It's an entire disk image and nothing
else is needed. Alternatively, from Nero Burning ROM, from the menu you
select Recorder-Burn Image... and navigate to the ISO and burn it. Then,
put it in the drive and reboot to the CD.

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Old December 13th 04, 04:56 AM
Ruel Smith
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Mark Ingram wrote:

i have the suse9.1 iso. copied to cd. nothing.


Do yourself a favor... quit. You couldn't use Google to find KDE and
Gnome, you have yet to learn how to burn an ISO image. You're not ready
for Linux. Linux is for self starters.


Though you're probably right, I don't discourage anyone from using it. I use
it and love it. I have to admit that I was quite lost for awhile, but
eventually found my way around with some help.

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Old December 13th 04, 05:31 PM
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"Mr Jessop" wrote in message
.uk...

"Will Dormann" wrote in message
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Mr Jessop wrote:
1. are the extra files outside the iso such as md55ums.asc necessary for
the burn.


An ISO file is a disc image. Any extra files are not necessary.


1.b if not would adding them cause the failed install so early on.


How could you have possibly "added" them? Unless you have burned a CD
that *contains* that ISO file and other stuff. (Why?)


Well without the extra files i the thing didn't work. The extra files
were in the same folder as the iso. such as readme. copyright and the
suse logo as a gif. So i copied and pasted all that next to the iso.



2. Although selecting iso in nero rom what selection did i miss out for
it to suggest that there was no disk in the drive.


Make sure you have the proper CD burner selected before opening the ISO.


I only have the one.

And make sure there is a blank CD in that drive.


Yep. It actually spat it out when the error message came up. So i tried
nero express instead. selected bootable rom. copied the iso to the
'burn' browser. plus all those little files that were in the same folder
as the suse iso.


Did you by chance download the full DVD version of Suse 9.1? If so, it
contains all the full retail apps and is quite large. It all does fit one
DVD, barely. The CD (full install) version took five CDs rather than just
one DVD. I used Nero 6xx and it burned both versions for me fine. One of the
CDs contained the bootable version to play around with that you don't have
to actually install to the HDD. If you are using Nero 5xx version there are
some issues I have heard about, but not really experienced myself. All three
versions worked just fine here with no issues at all. I am not by any means
an expert with linux and have just fooled around with it off and on for
5-6yrs. Suse is a good distro for folks like me.......:-)

Ed


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Old December 13th 04, 08:50 PM
Mr Jessop
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"Ed Medlin" wrote in message
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"Mr Jessop" wrote in message
.uk...

"Will Dormann" wrote in message
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Mr Jessop wrote:
1. are the extra files outside the iso such as md55ums.asc necessary
for the burn.

An ISO file is a disc image. Any extra files are not necessary.


1.b if not would adding them cause the failed install so early on.

How could you have possibly "added" them? Unless you have burned a CD
that *contains* that ISO file and other stuff. (Why?)


Well without the extra files i the thing didn't work. The extra files
were in the same folder as the iso. such as readme. copyright and the
suse logo as a gif. So i copied and pasted all that next to the iso.



2. Although selecting iso in nero rom what selection did i miss out
for it to suggest that there was no disk in the drive.

Make sure you have the proper CD burner selected before opening the ISO.


I only have the one.

And make sure there is a blank CD in that drive.


Yep. It actually spat it out when the error message came up. So i tried
nero express instead. selected bootable rom. copied the iso to the
'burn' browser. plus all those little files that were in the same
folder as the suse iso.


Did you by chance download the full DVD version of Suse 9.1? If so, it
contains all the full retail apps and is quite large. It all does fit one
DVD, barely. The CD (full install) version took five CDs rather than just
one DVD. I used Nero 6xx and it burned both versions for me fine. One of
the CDs contained the bootable version to play around with that you don't
have to actually install to the HDD. If you are using Nero 5xx version
there are some issues I have heard about, but not really experienced
myself. All three versions worked just fine here with no issues at all. I
am not by any means an expert with linux and have just fooled around with
it off and on for 5-6yrs. Suse is a good distro for folks like
me.......:-)


the pc format magazine dvd not only had the 9.1 distro but things such as
"the gimp" "wine" and other stuff.


 




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