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Old June 7th 04, 11:07 PM
Don McCarter
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Default linux 64bit OS again

If anyone is interested in a 64bit OS this one works for me.

I installed Fedora Core2 on my AMD64 machine, with a little tweaking.
The FC2 programs harddrive format messed up the
drive so I had to reformat and reinstall WinXP64.
I then booted to a Fedora Core1 disk and ran the install
until the HD was formatted.
I stopped the process, rebooted with Fedora Core2
and did a "Linux nousbstorage" install.
When I got to the format step I selected manual and
edited the "/boot" and "/" areas.
The rest of the install ran smoothly.
I now have a 64bit system running mostly x86_64 programs.

I am using the AMD64 3200 CPU, with a MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R MB
and an ATI 9600 pro video card.

Everything works except my Winfast TV system.
I had previously tried Gentoo 2004.1, Mandrake AMD64 rc1
and Suse 9.0. for AMD64.
Suse ran OK but most of the programs appeared to be 32bit.
Gentoo worked OK for a short while then I would get
a corrupt file system error.
Mandrake likewise ran ok for several bootups then it gave
a "kernel panic" error.




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Old June 8th 04, 07:38 AM
Early 2 Riz
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"Don McCarter" wrote in message
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If anyone is interested in a 64bit OS this one works for me.

I installed Fedora Core2 on my AMD64 machine, with a little tweaking.
The FC2 programs harddrive format messed up the
drive so I had to reformat and reinstall WinXP64.
I then booted to a Fedora Core1 disk and ran the install
until the HD was formatted.
I stopped the process, rebooted with Fedora Core2
and did a "Linux nousbstorage" install.
When I got to the format step I selected manual and
edited the "/boot" and "/" areas.
The rest of the install ran smoothly.
I now have a 64bit system running mostly x86_64 programs.

I am using the AMD64 3200 CPU, with a MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R MB
and an ATI 9600 pro video card.

Everything works except my Winfast TV system.
I had previously tried Gentoo 2004.1, Mandrake AMD64 rc1
and Suse 9.0. for AMD64.
Suse ran OK but most of the programs appeared to be 32bit.
Gentoo worked OK for a short while then I would get
a corrupt file system error.
Mandrake likewise ran ok for several bootups then it gave
a "kernel panic" error.





If your Winfast TV doesn't work, then you can say the whole system doesn't
work. You can't disregard a piece of equipment just because the OS doesn't
like it. My advice, stick to an OS where all of your equipment works.




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Old June 8th 04, 08:06 AM
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Early 2 Riz adjusted his tin foil beanie and asbestos underwear to
write:


If your Winfast TV doesn't work, then you can say the whole system
doesn't
work. You can't disregard a piece of equipment just because the OS
doesn't like it. My advice, stick to an OS where all of your equipment
works.


Name me one O/S where all hardware works 100% and I will buy it

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Old June 8th 04, 09:27 AM
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"baskitcaise" wrote in message
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Early 2 Riz adjusted his tin foil beanie and asbestos underwear to
write:


If your Winfast TV doesn't work, then you can say the whole system
doesn't
work. You can't disregard a piece of equipment just because the OS
doesn't like it. My advice, stick to an OS where all of your equipment
works.


Name me one O/S where all hardware works 100% and I will buy it


I hate software driven hardware.. Cheap&Crap all in the perfect bundle


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Old June 8th 04, 01:32 PM
Post Replies Here Please
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"rstlne" == rstlne writes:

rstlne "baskitcaise" wrote in message
rstlne ...
Early 2 Riz adjusted his tin foil beanie and asbestos underwear to
write:


If your Winfast TV doesn't work, then you can say the whole

system doesn't work. You can't disregard a piece of equipment
just because the OS doesn't like it. My advice, stick to an OS
where all of your equipment works.

Name me one O/S where all hardware works 100% and I will buy it


rstlne I hate software driven hardware.. Cheap&Crap all in the
rstlne perfect bundle

Closed source or win only software is a killer, and will be obselete
sooner than the hardware is obsolete. I have had to change or update
hardware on every system I have had because of driver problems, or
lack of driver support. This has been worst on Windows (DIFFERENT
VERSIONS) than Linux. I have noticed less win only hardware these days
and this is very good!

Whatever - find a card that works, or hack the driver to work ;-)).

Later

Alan

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Old June 8th 04, 03:24 PM
William W. Plummer
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"Post Replies Here Please" wrote in message
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"rstlne" == rstlne writes:


rstlne "baskitcaise" wrote in message
rstlne ...
Early 2 Riz adjusted his tin foil beanie and asbestos underwear to
write:


If your Winfast TV doesn't work, then you can say the whole
system doesn't work. You can't disregard a piece of equipment
just because the OS doesn't like it. My advice, stick to an OS
where all of your equipment works.

Name me one O/S where all hardware works 100% and I will buy it


rstlne I hate software driven hardware.. Cheap&Crap all in the
rstlne perfect bundle

Closed source or win only software is a killer, and will be obselete
sooner than the hardware is obsolete. I have had to change or update
hardware on every system I have had because of driver problems, or
lack of driver support. This has been worst on Windows (DIFFERENT
VERSIONS) than Linux. I have noticed less win only hardware these days
and this is very good!


Bloated software requiring new hardware along with hardware that supports
new software features is an old game. I remember it being practiced with
the IBM 704/709/7094 back in the late '50s and early '60s. Don't expect
changes!


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Old July 5th 04, 11:02 PM
Steven Kinch
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 08:06:19 +0100, baskitcaise wrote:

Early 2 Riz adjusted his tin foil beanie and asbestos underwear to
write:


If your Winfast TV doesn't work, then you can say the whole system
doesn't
work. You can't disregard a piece of equipment just because the OS
doesn't like it. My advice, stick to an OS where all of your equipment
works.


Name me one O/S where all hardware works 100% and I will buy it

That would probably be Mandrake 10. No need to buy. Just download.
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Old July 6th 04, 04:51 AM
XS11E
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Steven Kinch wrote in
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Name me one O/S where all hardware works 100% and I will buy it

That would probably be Mandrake 10. No need to buy. Just
download.


I'm running Mandrake 10 64bit RC1. I downloaded the ISOs so it cost
only three blank CDs. It installed all my hardware except I had to
manually install my Canon S900 Photo printer, there was no driver so I
chose the S800, set resolution to 800x800 and everything works fine. I
also had to manually configure my Microtek scanner, Mandrake had
drivers for an almost identical model and it also works fine. No other
hardware required any tweaking except screen resolution and that was
easy once I found out how to do it.

Install time was less than 1/2 of the time to install XP32bit or
XP64bit or Longhorn whoknowswhatbit, none of which could install the
Canon Photoprinter, Microtek scanner OR my NIC, sound card or chipset
drivers.

It seems to me that Mandrake comes out ahead of Windows in installing
hardware.

I also tried SuSE and RedHat (actually Fedora project) 64 bit editions,
neither of which installed hardware nearly as well as Mandrake so if
you have hardware install problems, just try another disto....







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Old July 6th 04, 05:06 AM
Pseudo Namen
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"XS11E" wrote in message
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Steven Kinch wrote in
news
Name me one O/S where all hardware works 100% and I will buy it

That would probably be Mandrake 10. No need to buy. Just
download.


I'm running Mandrake 10 64bit RC1. I downloaded the ISOs so it cost
only three blank CDs. It installed all my hardware except I had to
manually install my Canon S900 Photo printer, there was no driver so I
chose the S800, set resolution to 800x800 and everything works fine. I
also had to manually configure my Microtek scanner, Mandrake had
drivers for an almost identical model and it also works fine. No other
hardware required any tweaking except screen resolution and that was
easy once I found out how to do it.

Install time was less than 1/2 of the time to install XP32bit or
XP64bit or Longhorn whoknowswhatbit, none of which could install the
Canon Photoprinter, Microtek scanner OR my NIC, sound card or chipset
drivers.

It seems to me that Mandrake comes out ahead of Windows in installing
hardware.

I also tried SuSE and RedHat (actually Fedora project) 64 bit editions,
neither of which installed hardware nearly as well as Mandrake so if
you have hardware install problems, just try another disto....








The only problems I have with Mandrake 10 64bit for the AMD, is that is only
out for the Silver members. Plus, there is no support for it even then.

Mandrake is the best distro of Linux, but it doesn't take the place of
Windows for an ATI 9600XT or X800 online gaming system. There are so many
games written for the Windows Platform, and very few have been ported to
Linux.

And until Linux becomes completely point and click, it is not a viable OS
for the masses.


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Old June 10th 04, 09:07 PM
Only NoSpammers
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"Early 2 Riz" wrote in message
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"Don McCarter" wrote in message
...
If anyone is interested in a 64bit OS this one works for me.

I installed Fedora Core2 on my AMD64 machine, with a little tweaking.
The FC2 programs harddrive format messed up the
drive so I had to reformat and reinstall WinXP64.
I then booted to a Fedora Core1 disk and ran the install
until the HD was formatted.
I stopped the process, rebooted with Fedora Core2
and did a "Linux nousbstorage" install.
When I got to the format step I selected manual and
edited the "/boot" and "/" areas.
The rest of the install ran smoothly.
I now have a 64bit system running mostly x86_64 programs.

I am using the AMD64 3200 CPU, with a MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R MB
and an ATI 9600 pro video card.

Everything works except my Winfast TV system.
I had previously tried Gentoo 2004.1, Mandrake AMD64 rc1
and Suse 9.0. for AMD64.
Suse ran OK but most of the programs appeared to be 32bit.
Gentoo worked OK for a short while then I would get
a corrupt file system error.
Mandrake likewise ran ok for several bootups then it gave
a "kernel panic" error.





If your Winfast TV doesn't work, then you can say the whole system doesn't
work. You can't disregard a piece of equipment just because the OS

doesn't
like it. My advice, stick to an OS where all of your equipment works.


The OP's concern on the Winfast TV could be caused by the setting and/or
unavailable hardware driver. For the later case, the OP is stuck until there
is a Linux driver for such a TV card, not the whole system doesn't work. To
some extend, some people will not use the Winfast TV card, yet the system
runs fine and smooth without any DOB. You may not like Linux OS; however, an
advice like that, just because the hardware does not work on the OS without
knowing the cause, will get you nowhere even on a Windows OS.

--
Mazi


 




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