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Old January 16th 05, 01:20 AM
woodsie
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Default which video card for mac G5?

wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting a G5
dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video editing. No
game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i understand
to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon 9600XT. will
either card be enough or should i get something better?
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Old January 16th 05, 04:35 PM
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"woodsie" wrote in message
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wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting a G5
dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video editing. No
game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i understand
to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon 9600XT. will
either card be enough or should i get something better?


ATI 9800 Pro 128Mb for G5 systems. Twice the card of a 9600XT.
http://www.welovemacs.com/109a14400.html


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Old January 16th 05, 09:19 PM
Thomas
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Augustus wrote:
"woodsie" wrote in message
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wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting
a G5 dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video
editing. No game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i
understand to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon
9600XT. will either card be enough or should i get something better?


ATI 9800 Pro 128Mb for G5 systems. Twice the card of a 9600XT.
http://www.welovemacs.com/109a14400.html


I agree, but what a weird offer :-))
"Regular price: $249.49 Sale price: $249.99"

haha...

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Old January 16th 05, 10:04 PM
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Since you do video editing and 3D graphics, you may want to look into cards
that are specifically made for that kind of work. I know nVidia has a line
of cards for this and ATi may, as well.
Here is the link to nVidia's "Quadro" line:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/workstation.html
If you can't find what you need with nVidia or ATi, last ditch would be
Matrox, I guess.

"woodsie" wrote in message
...
wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting a G5
dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video editing. No
game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i understand
to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon 9600XT. will
either card be enough or should i get something better?



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Old January 17th 05, 08:04 PM
Benjamin Gawert
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Scotter wrote:

Since you do video editing and 3D graphics, you may want to look into
cards that are specifically made for that kind of work. I know nVidia
has a line of cards for this and ATi may, as well.
Here is the link to nVidia's "Quadro" line:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/workstation.html
If you can't find what you need with nVidia or ATi, last ditch would
be Matrox, I guess.


All nice ideas, but neither the Quadros nor Matrox cards You mentioned work
with a Mac, and that's what the OP has...

Benjamin

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Old January 17th 05, 08:02 PM
Benjamin Gawert
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woodsie wrote:

wondering if anyone can help this video card newbie. i'll be getting
a G5 dual 2 GHz Mac. doing mainly 2d & 3d graphics and some video
editing. No game playing.

the above mac comes with NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200 Ultra which i
understand to be a 'basic' card. next available up is the ATI Radeon
9600XT. will either card be enough or should i get something better?


I have a G5 1.8DP with the FX5200, and it's more than enough for what You
want to do. The card is slow at games but more than sufficient for
everything else. No other card will bring You any improvements at 2D
(something on which all cards of the last ~5 years are equally good), and
it's also more than enough for 3D work...

The other cards only bring You some benefit if You're into gaming, but You
already said that this isn't the case. So save the money and better get some
add'l RAM instead...

Benjamin

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

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Old January 17th 05, 09:04 PM
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No other card will bring You any improvements at 2D (something on which
all cards of the last ~5 years are equally good


Not the case at all.

There IS a strong variance between the 2D capabilities of chipsets made by
players other than ATI and NVidia (like Via, Sys, Intel etc...) over the
past 5 years. To be accurate you'd have to say (something on which all
NVidia, ATI, and Matrox cards of the last ...say 3 years... are equally
good)

Tony


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Old January 19th 05, 11:05 AM
Benjamin Gawert
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Tony DiMarzio wrote:

No other card will bring You any improvements at 2D (something on
which all cards of the last ~5 years are equally good


Not the case at all.

There IS a strong variance between the 2D capabilities of chipsets
made by players other than ATI and NVidia (like Via, Sys, Intel
etc...) over the past 5 years.


Not really. Even the UMA gfx chips made by VIA, SIS and intel during the
last 5 years aren't really slower than todays top end cards when it comes to
2D. Differences usually are barely measureable, and certainly not feelable
in real work...

Benjamin

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
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Old January 19th 05, 07:31 PM
Tony DiMarzio
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I'm going to have to disagree with that.

The chipsets in question are integrated into the Thin Clients that I
benchmark with every subsequent hardware or software release (one of my
duties as a test/software engineer) by the company I work for (Neoware).
There are significant performance variances between these chipsets with
respect to 2D rendering. The benchmarks speak for themselves... then again
so do the hardware specs that we have acquired straight from the
manufacturers (Intel, VIA, SiS). I'd provide them for you to look at
yourself but they're under NDA.

Tony


"Benjamin Gawert" wrote in message
...
Tony DiMarzio wrote:

No other card will bring You any improvements at 2D (something on
which all cards of the last ~5 years are equally good


Not the case at all.

There IS a strong variance between the 2D capabilities of chipsets
made by players other than ATI and NVidia (like Via, Sys, Intel
etc...) over the past 5 years.


Not really. Even the UMA gfx chips made by VIA, SIS and intel during the
last 5 years aren't really slower than todays top end cards when it comes
to 2D. Differences usually are barely measureable, and certainly not
feelable in real work...

Benjamin

--
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?



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Old January 20th 05, 04:50 AM
J. Clarke
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Tony DiMarzio wrote:

I'm going to have to disagree with that.

The chipsets in question are integrated into the Thin Clients that I
benchmark with every subsequent hardware or software release (one of my
duties as a test/software engineer) by the company I work for (Neoware).
There are significant performance variances between these chipsets with
respect to 2D rendering. The benchmarks speak for themselves... then again
so do the hardware specs that we have acquired straight from the
manufacturers (Intel, VIA, SiS). I'd provide them for you to look at
yourself but they're under NDA.\


Any chip that can't render fast enough to function in a thin client is
broken. Are you sure your benchmarks reflect the video chip and not some
other aspect of performance? Or is your definition of "thin client"
different from that of the rest of the industry?

Tony


"Benjamin Gawert" wrote in message
...
Tony DiMarzio wrote:

No other card will bring You any improvements at 2D (something on
which all cards of the last ~5 years are equally good

Not the case at all.

There IS a strong variance between the 2D capabilities of chipsets
made by players other than ATI and NVidia (like Via, Sys, Intel
etc...) over the past 5 years.


Not really. Even the UMA gfx chips made by VIA, SIS and intel during the
last 5 years aren't really slower than todays top end cards when it comes
to 2D. Differences usually are barely measureable, and certainly not
feelable in real work...

Benjamin

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?


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