Windows 7 upgrade to Windows 10 vs. new laptop with Windows 10.

This spring I purchased a new Dell Inspiron that came pre-installed with Windows 10. I also have three other machines that have been upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10.

I have noticed that the updates for the Inspiron that came pre-installed with Windows 10 are much different than the updates for the machines that were upgraded.

One of the updates for the pre-installed 10 included changes in the start menu and appeared to be a major update for Windows 10. However that update never occurred on the upgraded Windows 10 machines.

Wondering if anyone else has noticed this, and I wonder what it means.

Larry

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 2:36:44 PM UTC-4, Larry wrote:
This spring I purchased a new Dell Inspiron that came pre-installed with Windows 10. I also have three other machines that have been upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10.

I have noticed that the updates for the Inspiron that came pre-installed with Windows 10 are much different than the updates for the machines that were upgraded.

One of the updates for the pre-installed 10 included changes in the start menu and appeared to be a major update for Windows 10. However that update never occurred on the upgraded Windows 10 machines.

Wondering if anyone else has noticed this, and I wonder what it means.

Larry

You may be seeing the Win 10 Anniversary Edition on the new Inspiron. It has enough changes (some for the worse, taking features away) to be considered the second beta of Win 10. The first one was released on July 29, 2015. The early pre-release Win 10 program was misnamed. In more appropriate software engineering terminology, these were alpha versions of an incomplete product before 7/29/15, but millions became victims of testing the software. I gave up being a tester of Microsoft products years ago. They flatter the heck out of you and tell you how wonderful you are, and then you spend hours and hours documenting software malfunctions that would have been found with proper code reviews and other true engineering methods. And maybe Microsoft programmers and testers not using mind-altering substances to work 16 hour days.

Ben Myers wrote:
On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 2:36:44 PM UTC-4, Larry wrote:
This spring I purchased a new Dell Inspiron that came pre-installed
with Windows 10. I also have three other machines that have been
upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10.

I have noticed that the updates for the Inspiron that came
pre-installed with Windows 10 are much different than the updates
for the machines that were upgraded.

One of the updates for the pre-installed 10 included changes in the
start menu and appeared to be a major update for Windows 10.
However that update never occurred on the upgraded Windows 10
machines.

Wondering if anyone else has noticed this, and I wonder what it
means.

Larry

You may be seeing the Win 10 Anniversary Edition on the new Inspiron.
It has enough changes (some for the worse, taking features away) to
be considered the second beta of Win 10. The first one was released
on July 29, 2015. The early pre-release Win 10 program was misnamed.
In more appropriate software engineering terminology, these were
alpha versions of an incomplete product before 7/29/15, but millions
became victims of testing the software. I gave up being a tester of
Microsoft products years ago. They flatter the heck out of you and
tell you how wonderful you are, and then you spend hours and hours
documenting software malfunctions that would have been found with
proper code reviews and other true engineering methods. And maybe
Microsoft programmers and testers not using mind-altering substances
to work 16 hour days.

I have yet to upgrade a couple machines from Win 8. They work fine as is
and I HATE needing to find drivers and software after "upgrades" screw
things up.

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I'm still on XP and everything works.

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Larry wrote in
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This spring I purchased a new Dell Inspiron that came pre-installed
with Windows 10. I also have three other machines that have been
upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10.

I have noticed that the updates for the Inspiron that came
pre-installed with Windows 10 are much different than the updates for
the machines that were upgraded.

One of the updates for the pre-installed 10 included changes in the
start menu and appeared to be a major update for Windows 10. However
that update never occurred on the upgraded Windows 10 machines.

Wondering if anyone else has noticed this, and I wonder what it means.

Larry

I've also got three laptops running Win10, all OEM installs. Two Dells,
one HP. All came with Version 1511.

On 8/26/2016, one of the Dells was automatically updated with Windows 10
Anniversary Edition, Version 1607, and the others were not. They are
still running Version 1511.

If you do a winver.exe, you can find out what version is running on any
machine. On the one that had the Anniversary Edition installed, if you
go to Update History, you'll see that all previous updates to Version
1511 are gone, and the only update showing is 1607.

The Anniversay Edition is being deployed over time, rather than to all
Win10 installs at once. You could go get it yourself, but if it's not
broken, relatively speaking, why fix it?

And yes, the Anniversary Edition did change my Start menu, turned back
on some telemetry which I had turned off, and changed other settings. I
never really cared for Win10, and use my Win7 desktop all the time. The
laptops are for travel.

Boris wrote:
If you do a winver.exe, you can find out what version is running on any
machine.

Interesting feature. However if you run winver.exe on XP, it doesn't end when you X out.
I wonder what it's doing. It seems idle.

It matters if you start if from another job, because it never returns unless you kill it
with task manager or something.
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Ron Hardin wrote:
Boris wrote:
If you do a winver.exe, you can find out what version is running on any
machine.

Interesting feature. However if you run winver.exe on XP, it doesn't end when you X out.
I wonder what it's doing. It seems idle.

It matters if you start if from another job, because it never returns unless you kill it
with task manager or something.

Works for me on XP SP3.

Tom Cole wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:
Boris wrote:
If you do a winver.exe, you can find out what version is running on any
machine.

Interesting feature. However if you run winver.exe on XP, it doesn't end when you X out.
I wonder what it's doing. It seems idle.

It matters if you start if from another job, because it never returns unless you kill it
with task manager or something.

Works for me on XP SP3.

Yes it works but it stays listed in task manager. That is, it doesn't exit.
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On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Ron Hardin wrote:
Tom Cole wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:
Boris wrote:
If you do a winver.exe, you can find out what version is running on any
machine.

Interesting feature. However if you run winver.exe on XP, it doesn't end when you X out.
I wonder what it's doing. It seems idle.

It matters if you start if from another job, because it never returns unless you kill it
with task manager or something.

Works for me on XP SP3.

Yes it works but it stays listed in task manager. That is, it doesn't exit.

Here, typing winver 'enter' at the command prompt returns to the
invitation-to-type immediately, and simultaneously shows a window with the
XP information.