Windows 10 and Laser printer

Windows 10 version 1903 OS build 18362.239.
Printer Okidata c5150n, driver C51200GDEA.exe
Couple days ago I sent a file to the printer but nothing happened, I
last used it a couple weeks ago and it was fine then.
Did a bunch of things such as delete and reinstall driver, tried it in
USB and network modes, nothing, no messages or warnings but found it had
disappeared from the add printers page, tried to add printer but no
luck, tried new Lan and USB cables, zilch, Ran up a Linux Mint live USB
stick and the printer works fine, Same for MX Linux.
So the printer is OK and it has to be our friendly Windows again with
their lovely update gifts , I suspect another crappy update so even
tried a new fresh install, Nope still no printer, So who has an idea on
how to proceed now?
thanks for all help and ideas.

Rene

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:15:14 -0500
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Windows 10 version 1903 OS build 18362.239.
Printer Okidata c5150n, driver C51200GDEA.exe
Couple days ago I sent a file to the printer but nothing happened, I
last used it a couple weeks ago and it was fine then.
Did a bunch of things such as delete and reinstall driver, tried it
in USB and network modes, nothing, no messages or warnings but found
it had disappeared from the add printers page, tried to add printer
but no luck, tried new Lan and USB cables, zilch, Ran up a Linux Mint
live USB stick and the printer works fine, Same for MX Linux.
So the printer is OK and it has to be our friendly Windows again with
their lovely update gifts , I suspect another crappy update so even
tried a new fresh install, Nope still no printer, So who has an idea
on how to proceed now?
thanks for all help and ideas.

Rene




Maybe Windows 10 just stopped supporting it. I think I remember you
saying it was an old printer.

I just wanted to tell you, that now you can make the scroll bars as
wide as you want them in Linux Mint Cinnamon.

On 2019-08-22 2:00 p.m., Johnny wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:15:14 -0500
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Windows 10 version 1903 OS build 18362.239.
Printer Okidata c5150n, driver C51200GDEA.exe
Couple days ago I sent a file to the printer but nothing happened, I
last used it a couple weeks ago and it was fine then.
Did a bunch of things such as delete and reinstall driver, tried it
in USB and network modes, nothing, no messages or warnings but found
it had disappeared from the add printers page, tried to add printer
but no luck, tried new Lan and USB cables, zilch, Ran up a Linux Mint
live USB stick and the printer works fine, Same for MX Linux.
So the printer is OK and it has to be our friendly Windows again with
their lovely update gifts , I suspect another crappy update so even
tried a new fresh install, Nope still no printer, So who has an idea
on how to proceed now?
thanks for all help and ideas.

Rene




Maybe Windows 10 just stopped supporting it. I think I remember you
saying it was an old printer.

I just wanted to tell you, that now you can make the scroll bars as
wide as you want them in Linux Mint Cinnamon.



Bought in June, 2007, makes it 12 years old. But was printing perfectly,
only a half dozen minor paper jams during that period. Gotta look at
Andreas suggestion re older updates.

Rene

On 2019-08-22 3:00 p.m., Johnny wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:15:14 -0500
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Windows 10 version 1903 OS build 18362.239.
Printer Okidata c5150n, driver C51200GDEA.exe
Couple days ago I sent a file to the printer but nothing happened, I
last used it a couple weeks ago and it was fine then.
Did a bunch of things such as delete and reinstall driver, tried it
in USB and network modes, nothing, no messages or warnings but found
it had disappeared from the add printers page, tried to add printer
but no luck, tried new Lan and USB cables, zilch, Ran up a Linux Mint
live USB stick and the printer works fine, Same for MX Linux.
So the printer is OK and it has to be our friendly Windows again with
their lovely update gifts , I suspect another crappy update so even
tried a new fresh install, Nope still no printer, So who has an idea
on how to proceed now?
thanks for all help and ideas.

Rene




Maybe Windows 10 just stopped supporting it. I think I remember you
saying it was an old printer.

I just wanted to tell you, that now you can make the scroll bars as
wide as you want them in Linux Mint Cinnamon.

Score one for Linux in its dedication to supporting all hardware whether
outdated or not.

Rabid Robot wrote:
On 2019-08-22 3:00 p.m., Johnny wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:15:14 -0500
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Windows 10 version 1903 OS build 18362.239.
Printer Okidata c5150n, driver C51200GDEA.exe
Couple days ago I sent a file to the printer but nothing happened, I
last used it a couple weeks ago and it was fine then.
Did a bunch of things such as delete and reinstall driver, tried it
in USB and network modes, nothing, no messages or warnings but found
it had disappeared from the add printers page, tried to add printer
but no luck, tried new Lan and USB cables, zilch, Ran up a Linux Mint
live USB stick and the printer works fine, Same for MX Linux.
So the printer is OK and it has to be our friendly Windows again with
their lovely update gifts , I suspect another crappy update so even
tried a new fresh install, Nope still no printer, So who has an idea
on how to proceed now?
thanks for all help and ideas.

Rene



Maybe Windows 10 just stopped supporting it. I think I remember you
saying it was an old printer.

I just wanted to tell you, that now you can make the scroll bars as
wide as you want them in Linux Mint Cinnamon.

Score one for Linux in its dedication to supporting all hardware whether
outdated or not.


With Windows, keeping a printer running is a measure of
your ingenuity. It's possible to make ancient crap run,
if you know all the recipes. Sometimes, a "look alike"
driver happens to make another printer run. There
are "universal drivers" for some printer categories
(more than one category too), which can be used if
the manufacturer doesn't have a specific driver.
I was using that approach, to build a "Postscript printer
to FILE" for some of my setups here. (I was then
using Distiller to make PDFs from that. Windows 10
makes PDFs directly, so that approach isn't necessary
there now.)

What Rene just did, try an INF, is just one of the
options. There is also some Windows Update thing,
where a whole library of ancient printer drivers
(maybe even some dot matrix ones) get downloaded,
and "that takes an hour to download". So whatever
that recipe involves, the arrival of the "kit" is
rather lengthy, and might well be fetched one
package at a time, rather than being a giant
ZIP or something.

The trick then, for the poor end user owning just one
printer, is which one of those methods will offer
"good fishing". And odds are, there isn't a single
web page "documenting all the fishing holes you can try".

It was the same way with scanners. Some people here, would
offer advice right away to just "give up". But some
posters manage to get their scanner running anyway,
through dogged persistence.

Paul

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:27:01 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Rabid Robot wrote:
On 2019-08-22 3:00 p.m., Johnny wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:15:14 -0500
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Windows 10 version 1903 OS build 18362.239.
Printer Okidata c5150n, driver C51200GDEA.exe
Couple days ago I sent a file to the printer but nothing happened, I
last used it a couple weeks ago and it was fine then.
Did a bunch of things such as delete and reinstall driver, tried it
in USB and network modes, nothing, no messages or warnings but found
it had disappeared from the add printers page, tried to add printer
but no luck, tried new Lan and USB cables, zilch, Ran up a Linux Mint
live USB stick and the printer works fine, Same for MX Linux.
So the printer is OK and it has to be our friendly Windows again with
their lovely update gifts , I suspect another crappy update so even
tried a new fresh install, Nope still no printer, So who has an idea
on how to proceed now?
thanks for all help and ideas.

Rene



Maybe Windows 10 just stopped supporting it. I think I remember you
saying it was an old printer.

I just wanted to tell you, that now you can make the scroll bars as
wide as you want them in Linux Mint Cinnamon.

Score one for Linux in its dedication to supporting all hardware whether
outdated or not.


With Windows, keeping a printer running is a measure of
your ingenuity. It's possible to make ancient crap run,
if you know all the recipes. Sometimes, a "look alike"
driver happens to make another printer run. There
are "universal drivers" for some printer categories
(more than one category too), which can be used if
the manufacturer doesn't have a specific driver.
I was using that approach, to build a "Postscript printer
to FILE" for some of my setups here. (I was then
using Distiller to make PDFs from that. Windows 10
makes PDFs directly, so that approach isn't necessary
there now.)

What Rene just did, try an INF, is just one of the
options. There is also some Windows Update thing,
where a whole library of ancient printer drivers
(maybe even some dot matrix ones) get downloaded,
and "that takes an hour to download". So whatever
that recipe involves, the arrival of the "kit" is
rather lengthy, and might well be fetched one
package at a time, rather than being a giant
ZIP or something.

The trick then, for the poor end user owning just one
printer, is which one of those methods will offer
"good fishing". And odds are, there isn't a single
web page "documenting all the fishing holes you can try".

It was the same way with scanners. Some people here, would
offer advice right away to just "give up". But some
posters manage to get their scanner running anyway,
through dogged persistence.

At the other end of the life cycle the advice should be to buy a good
and uptodate printer liable to be supported for a long time. I tend to
do that when buying gear and this thread has brought me to the
realisation that I am still able to run my 15 year old printer under
Windows 10.

--


Eric Stevens

There are two classes of people. Those who divide people into
two classes and those who don't. I belong to the second class.

On 2019-08-23 4:13 a.m., Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:27:01 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Rabid Robot wrote:
On 2019-08-22 3:00 p.m., Johnny wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:15:14 -0500
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Windows 10 version 1903 OS build 18362.239.
Printer Okidata c5150n, driver C51200GDEA.exe
Couple days ago I sent a file to the printer but nothing happened, I
last used it a couple weeks ago and it was fine then.
Did a bunch of things such as delete and reinstall driver, tried it
in USB and network modes, nothing, no messages or warnings but found
it had disappeared from the add printers page, tried to add printer
but no luck, tried new Lan and USB cables, zilch, Ran up a Linux Mint
live USB stick and the printer works fine, Same for MX Linux.
So the printer is OK and it has to be our friendly Windows again with
their lovely update gifts , I suspect another crappy update so even
tried a new fresh install, Nope still no printer, So who has an idea
on how to proceed now?
thanks for all help and ideas.

Rene



Maybe Windows 10 just stopped supporting it. I think I remember you
saying it was an old printer.

I just wanted to tell you, that now you can make the scroll bars as
wide as you want them in Linux Mint Cinnamon.

Score one for Linux in its dedication to supporting all hardware whether
outdated or not.


With Windows, keeping a printer running is a measure of
your ingenuity. It's possible to make ancient crap run,
if you know all the recipes. Sometimes, a "look alike"
driver happens to make another printer run. There
are "universal drivers" for some printer categories
(more than one category too), which can be used if
the manufacturer doesn't have a specific driver.
I was using that approach, to build a "Postscript printer
to FILE" for some of my setups here. (I was then
using Distiller to make PDFs from that. Windows 10
makes PDFs directly, so that approach isn't necessary
there now.)

What Rene just did, try an INF, is just one of the
options. There is also some Windows Update thing,
where a whole library of ancient printer drivers
(maybe even some dot matrix ones) get downloaded,
and "that takes an hour to download". So whatever
that recipe involves, the arrival of the "kit" is
rather lengthy, and might well be fetched one
package at a time, rather than being a giant
ZIP or something.

The trick then, for the poor end user owning just one
printer, is which one of those methods will offer
"good fishing". And odds are, there isn't a single
web page "documenting all the fishing holes you can try".

It was the same way with scanners. Some people here, would
offer advice right away to just "give up". But some
posters manage to get their scanner running anyway,
through dogged persistence.

At the other end of the life cycle the advice should be to buy a good
and uptodate printer liable to be supported for a long time. I tend to
do that when buying gear and this thread has brought me to the
realisation that I am still able to run my 15 year old printer under
Windows 10.


Yes, I did try the Windows update thing and It took forever but alas, my
printer was not listed, The thing was I have the proper OKI driver and
it installs fine but something in Windows was breaking it, Running that
inf cured it for whatever reason.
Okidata makes great printers and good drivers, 12 years and the original
driver still works in Windows 10.

Rene

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:27:01 -0400, Paul wrote:

Rabid Robot wrote:

Score one for Linux in its dedication to supporting all hardware whether
outdated or not.


With Windows, keeping a printer running is a measure of
your ingenuity.

With any printer not working with Windows (Mac, what ever) but Linux, as
I mentioned in another article, set Linux up as a print server. For
Windows a network printer appears it sends the job to. Linux does the rest.
--
Andreas

On 2019-08-22 2:39 p.m., Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 14:00:03 -0500, Johnny wrote:

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:15:14 -0500
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Windows 10 version 1903 OS build 18362.239.
Printer Okidata c5150n, driver C51200GDEA.exe
Couple days ago I sent a file to the printer but nothing happened, I
last used it a couple weeks ago and it was fine then.
Did a bunch of things such as delete and reinstall driver, tried it
in USB and network modes, nothing, no messages or warnings but found
it had disappeared from the add printers page, tried to add printer
but no luck, tried new Lan and USB cables, zilch, Ran up a Linux Mint
live USB stick and the printer works fine, Same for MX Linux.
So the printer is OK and it has to be our friendly Windows again with
their lovely update gifts , I suspect another crappy update so even
tried a new fresh install, Nope still no printer, So who has an idea
on how to proceed now?
thanks for all help and ideas.

Maybe Windows 10 just stopped supporting it. I think I remember you
saying it was an old printer.

Then he should find an exclamation mark in the list of drivers for his
printer.



there is no listing for my printer in Windows, The driver I have been
using is the original OKI driver since about 2009.

Rene

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 14:52:59 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 2019-08-22 2:39 p.m., Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 14:00:03 -0500, Johnny wrote:

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 13:15:14 -0500 Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

Windows 10 version 1903 OS build 18362.239.
Printer Okidata c5150n, driver C51200GDEA.exe Couple days ago I sent
a file to the printer but nothing happened, I last used it a couple
weeks ago and it was fine then.
Did a bunch of things such as delete and reinstall driver, tried it
in USB and network modes, nothing, no messages or warnings but found
it had disappeared from the add printers page, tried to add printer
but no luck, tried new Lan and USB cables, zilch, Ran up a Linux Mint
live USB stick and the printer works fine, Same for MX Linux.
So the printer is OK and it has to be our friendly Windows again with
their lovely update gifts , I suspect another crappy update so even
tried a new fresh install, Nope still no printer, So who has an idea
on how to proceed now?
thanks for all help and ideas.

Maybe Windows 10 just stopped supporting it. I think I remember you
saying it was an old printer.

Then he should find an exclamation mark in the list of drivers for his
printer.



there is no listing for my printer in Windows, The driver I have been
using is the original OKI driver since about 2009.

Have you asked it to go online and check? I have a 1993 printer where I
have to do that.