8KNXP has no USB 2.0

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:30:39 -0000, "IanO" wrote:


"KatManDEW" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:46:11 -0000, "IanO" wrote:


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"PhilD" wrote:


I'm having the exact same problem with multiple Acer desktops at work
using
my personal Lexar Jumpdrive Elite. Another brand, but older, is
intermittant
on the front ports. I convinced my boss that I need one at work, so he
let
me go buy one. I forget the brand I got, but guess what, it works
consistantly on the front ports.
snip
Mmmmm, I wonder if the problem may be the jump drive. I too have a
Lexar 1 gig that cannot connect to my Dell notebook. Works on the
other two computers here though. Also works on my grandson's. Is
there a common thread here?

--
A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

As far as I know, the pins you connected your front ports to are
controlled
by the same chip as the rear ports. However it is possible that the
cable
or cables running to the front ports on the case are not wired for 2.0.

Ian (trying to bottom post as much as possible!)

Mine is a Lexar 1 gig. It works fine in the back ports on my 8KNXP,
but not the front ports. It works on my Dell laptop and in the front
ports on the IBM desktops at work.

Wonder how we can find out about the front port wiring to see if it's
correct, or if they even support 2.0? A jump drive is one of the
things that the front ports are the handiest for.....

What case do you have? We are talking, aren't we, about ports built onto
your case with trailing cables terminating in pins or blocks for connection
to the headers on the Gigabyte board? Just to be clear! ;-) The header
pins for either USB standard are the same to all intents and purposes, but a
port, hub or cable can still be incapable of operating at USB 2.0 speeds.
In such cases only USB 1.1 speed is achieved. Since you achieve USB 2.0
hi-speed with the drive on your rear ports, I still suspect that the
socket/cable provided with your case cannot handle 2.0. It is sometimes
possible to replace these, but you are into specifics based on whose case
you have used.

You could go to EBUYER and purchase their internal USB 2.0 7-in-1 card
reader! As well as reading cards, it has a USB socket on it, which is
certified 2.0. It's a useful peripheral, and connects to the same USB header
on the motherboard. What's my point? It is to stop using the case front
ports, and replace them with another certified USB 2.0 device that provides
a USB socket.

Here is a really useful source of USB information:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/installusb.html


Thanks for the info. Yes, we are talking about USB ports on the front
of the case. It's a Antec case with a little door on the front with
two USB ports and a Firewire port.

Funny thing is that I have a old USB 1.1 hub plugged into a port on
the back of the PC, and the Lexar Jumpdrive works fine in that hub.
But it's a unrecognized device if I connect it to the ports on the
front of the case.

I looked at a bunch of things on that web site. The idea of some front
USB/Firewire ports combined with a card reader, mounted in a drive bay
is VERY interesting. The only one I saw on that site also had a bunch
of other stuff like temperature displays and fan speed controllers;
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/uc9fatr2b.html
It doesn't have any more UBS/Firewire ports that the front of my case.
I would love to have something like that with more ports and card
readers, and no overclocking gizmos.

"KatManDEW" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:30:39 -0000, "IanO" wrote:


"KatManDEW" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:46:11 -0000, "IanO" wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
"PhilD" wrote:


I'm having the exact same problem with multiple Acer desktops at
work
using
my personal Lexar Jumpdrive Elite. Another brand, but older, is
intermittant
on the front ports. I convinced my boss that I need one at work, so
he
let
me go buy one. I forget the brand I got, but guess what, it works
consistantly on the front ports.
snip
Mmmmm, I wonder if the problem may be the jump drive. I too have a
Lexar 1 gig that cannot connect to my Dell notebook. Works on the
other two computers here though. Also works on my grandson's. Is
there a common thread here?

--
A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read
text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

As far as I know, the pins you connected your front ports to are
controlled
by the same chip as the rear ports. However it is possible that the
cable
or cables running to the front ports on the case are not wired for
2.0.

Ian (trying to bottom post as much as possible!)

Mine is a Lexar 1 gig. It works fine in the back ports on my 8KNXP,
but not the front ports. It works on my Dell laptop and in the front
ports on the IBM desktops at work.

Wonder how we can find out about the front port wiring to see if it's
correct, or if they even support 2.0? A jump drive is one of the
things that the front ports are the handiest for.....

What case do you have? We are talking, aren't we, about ports built onto
your case with trailing cables terminating in pins or blocks for
connection
to the headers on the Gigabyte board? Just to be clear! ;-) The header
pins for either USB standard are the same to all intents and purposes,
but a
port, hub or cable can still be incapable of operating at USB 2.0
speeds.
In such cases only USB 1.1 speed is achieved. Since you achieve USB 2.0
hi-speed with the drive on your rear ports, I still suspect that the
socket/cable provided with your case cannot handle 2.0. It is sometimes
possible to replace these, but you are into specifics based on whose case
you have used.

You could go to EBUYER and purchase their internal USB 2.0 7-in-1 card
reader! As well as reading cards, it has a USB socket on it, which is
certified 2.0. It's a useful peripheral, and connects to the same USB
header
on the motherboard. What's my point? It is to stop using the case front
ports, and replace them with another certified USB 2.0 device that
provides
a USB socket.

Here is a really useful source of USB information:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/installusb.html


Thanks for the info. Yes, we are talking about USB ports on the front
of the case. It's a Antec case with a little door on the front with
two USB ports and a Firewire port.

Funny thing is that I have a old USB 1.1 hub plugged into a port on
the back of the PC, and the Lexar Jumpdrive works fine in that hub.
But it's a unrecognized device if I connect it to the ports on the
front of the case.

I looked at a bunch of things on that web site. The idea of some front
USB/Firewire ports combined with a card reader, mounted in a drive bay
is VERY interesting. The only one I saw on that site also had a bunch
of other stuff like temperature displays and fan speed controllers;
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/uc9fatr2b.html
It doesn't have any more UBS/Firewire ports that the front of my case.
I would love to have something like that with more ports and card
readers, and no overclocking gizmos.

How about -
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=32624

"KatManDEW" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:30:39 -0000, "IanO" wrote:


"KatManDEW" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:46:11 -0000, "IanO" wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
"PhilD" wrote:


I'm having the exact same problem with multiple Acer desktops at
work
using
my personal Lexar Jumpdrive Elite. Another brand, but older, is
intermittant
on the front ports. I convinced my boss that I need one at work, so
he
let
me go buy one. I forget the brand I got, but guess what, it works
consistantly on the front ports.
snip
Mmmmm, I wonder if the problem may be the jump drive. I too have a
Lexar 1 gig that cannot connect to my Dell notebook. Works on the
other two computers here though. Also works on my grandson's. Is
there a common thread here?

--
A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read
text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

As far as I know, the pins you connected your front ports to are
controlled
by the same chip as the rear ports. However it is possible that the
cable
or cables running to the front ports on the case are not wired for
2.0.

Ian (trying to bottom post as much as possible!)

Mine is a Lexar 1 gig. It works fine in the back ports on my 8KNXP,
but not the front ports. It works on my Dell laptop and in the front
ports on the IBM desktops at work.

Wonder how we can find out about the front port wiring to see if it's
correct, or if they even support 2.0? A jump drive is one of the
things that the front ports are the handiest for.....

What case do you have? We are talking, aren't we, about ports built onto
your case with trailing cables terminating in pins or blocks for
connection
to the headers on the Gigabyte board? Just to be clear! ;-) The header
pins for either USB standard are the same to all intents and purposes,
but a
port, hub or cable can still be incapable of operating at USB 2.0
speeds.
In such cases only USB 1.1 speed is achieved. Since you achieve USB 2.0
hi-speed with the drive on your rear ports, I still suspect that the
socket/cable provided with your case cannot handle 2.0. It is sometimes
possible to replace these, but you are into specifics based on whose case
you have used.

You could go to EBUYER and purchase their internal USB 2.0 7-in-1 card
reader! As well as reading cards, it has a USB socket on it, which is
certified 2.0. It's a useful peripheral, and connects to the same USB
header
on the motherboard. What's my point? It is to stop using the case front
ports, and replace them with another certified USB 2.0 device that
provides
a USB socket.

Here is a really useful source of USB information:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/installusb.html


Thanks for the info. Yes, we are talking about USB ports on the front
of the case. It's a Antec case with a little door on the front with
two USB ports and a Firewire port.

Funny thing is that I have a old USB 1.1 hub plugged into a port on
the back of the PC, and the Lexar Jumpdrive works fine in that hub.
But it's a unrecognized device if I connect it to the ports on the
front of the case.

I looked at a bunch of things on that web site. The idea of some front
USB/Firewire ports combined with a card reader, mounted in a drive bay
is VERY interesting. The only one I saw on that site also had a bunch
of other stuff like temperature displays and fan speed controllers;
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/uc9fatr2b.html
It doesn't have any more UBS/Firewire ports that the front of my case.
I would love to have something like that with more ports and card
readers, and no overclocking gizmos.

How about-
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=32624

How about this device -
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=32624

"KatManDEW" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:30:39 -0000, "IanO" wrote:


"KatManDEW" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:46:11 -0000, "IanO" wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
"PhilD" wrote:


I'm having the exact same problem with multiple Acer desktops at
work
using
my personal Lexar Jumpdrive Elite. Another brand, but older, is
intermittant
on the front ports. I convinced my boss that I need one at work, so
he
let
me go buy one. I forget the brand I got, but guess what, it works
consistantly on the front ports.
snip
Mmmmm, I wonder if the problem may be the jump drive. I too have a
Lexar 1 gig that cannot connect to my Dell notebook. Works on the
other two computers here though. Also works on my grandson's. Is
there a common thread here?

--
A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read
text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

As far as I know, the pins you connected your front ports to are
controlled
by the same chip as the rear ports. However it is possible that the
cable
or cables running to the front ports on the case are not wired for
2.0.

Ian (trying to bottom post as much as possible!)

Mine is a Lexar 1 gig. It works fine in the back ports on my 8KNXP,
but not the front ports. It works on my Dell laptop and in the front
ports on the IBM desktops at work.

Wonder how we can find out about the front port wiring to see if it's
correct, or if they even support 2.0? A jump drive is one of the
things that the front ports are the handiest for.....

What case do you have? We are talking, aren't we, about ports built onto
your case with trailing cables terminating in pins or blocks for
connection
to the headers on the Gigabyte board? Just to be clear! ;-) The header
pins for either USB standard are the same to all intents and purposes,
but a
port, hub or cable can still be incapable of operating at USB 2.0
speeds.
In such cases only USB 1.1 speed is achieved. Since you achieve USB 2.0
hi-speed with the drive on your rear ports, I still suspect that the
socket/cable provided with your case cannot handle 2.0. It is sometimes
possible to replace these, but you are into specifics based on whose case
you have used.

You could go to EBUYER and purchase their internal USB 2.0 7-in-1 card
reader! As well as reading cards, it has a USB socket on it, which is
certified 2.0. It's a useful peripheral, and connects to the same USB
header
on the motherboard. What's my point? It is to stop using the case front
ports, and replace them with another certified USB 2.0 device that
provides
a USB socket.

Here is a really useful source of USB information:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/installusb.html


Thanks for the info. Yes, we are talking about USB ports on the front
of the case. It's a Antec case with a little door on the front with
two USB ports and a Firewire port.

Funny thing is that I have a old USB 1.1 hub plugged into a port on
the back of the PC, and the Lexar Jumpdrive works fine in that hub.
But it's a unrecognized device if I connect it to the ports on the
front of the case.

I looked at a bunch of things on that web site. The idea of some front
USB/Firewire ports combined with a card reader, mounted in a drive bay
is VERY interesting. The only one I saw on that site also had a bunch
of other stuff like temperature displays and fan speed controllers;
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/uc9fatr2b.html
It doesn't have any more UBS/Firewire ports that the front of my case.
I would love to have something like that with more ports and card
readers, and no overclocking gizmos.

How about this -
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=32624

Thanks again. Now I'm thinking that I should get one with a card
reader, which is one of my main uses. But I haven't found any
internal, combination card readers with USB ports, which comes with
an interface, and I think there is something squirely with the front
USB header on this 8KNXP motherboard.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:23:51 -0000, "IanO" wrote:

How about this device -
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=32624

"KatManDEW" wrote in message
...
Thanks again. Now I'm thinking that I should get one with a card
reader, which is one of my main uses. But I haven't found any
internal, combination card readers with USB ports, which comes with
an interface, and I think there is something squirely with the front
USB header on this 8KNXP motherboard.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:23:51 -0000, "IanO" wrote:

How about this device -

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...vd19wcm9kdWN0X
292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=32624


The card reader units will only have one USB socket on them as the rest of
the bandwidth is used for the card reading. XP is clever enough to
recognise the readers as devices, via the USB header. It's neat! You have
two headers on the Gigabyte board, so you can probably leave the case ports
connected anyway, unless one of them already feeds a bracket on the back
panel....

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:55:54 -0000, "IanO"
wrote:


"KatManDEW" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks again. Now I'm thinking that I should get one with a card
reader, which is one of my main uses. But I haven't found any
internal, combination card readers with USB ports, which comes with
an interface, and I think there is something squirely with the front
USB header on this 8KNXP motherboard.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:23:51 -0000, "IanO" wrote:

How about this device -

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...vd19wcm9kdWN0X
292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=32624


The card reader units will only have one USB socket on them as the rest of
the bandwidth is used for the card reading. XP is clever enough to
recognise the readers as devices, via the USB header. It's neat! You have
two headers on the Gigabyte board, so you can probably leave the case ports
connected anyway, unless one of them already feeds a bracket on the back
panel....

I could live with one USB port on the card reader. The only problem is
that there's something wrong with USB connected to the front header on
my Gigabyte 8KNXP..... In addition to the Lexar Jump Drive not working
if it's connected to one of the front ports, I just tried a 2.0 hub
connected to a front port and it also came up as a unrecognized
device. Just tried my camera in the front with the same results. I've
been using that camera connected to one of the rear ports since I got
this PC, with no problems, I have a R/C airplane simulator which works
fine connected to a front port. Very perplexing and frustrating.....

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:08:51 -0500, KatManDEW
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:55:54 -0000, "IanO"
wrote:


"KatManDEW" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks again. Now I'm thinking that I should get one with a card
reader, which is one of my main uses. But I haven't found any
internal, combination card readers with USB ports, which comes with
an interface, and I think there is something squirely with the front
USB header on this 8KNXP motherboard.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:23:51 -0000, "IanO" wrote:

How about this device -

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...vd19wcm9kdWN0X
292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=32624


The card reader units will only have one USB socket on them as the rest of
the bandwidth is used for the card reading. XP is clever enough to
recognise the readers as devices, via the USB header. It's neat! You have
two headers on the Gigabyte board, so you can probably leave the case ports
connected anyway, unless one of them already feeds a bracket on the back
panel....

I could live with one USB port on the card reader. The only problem is
that there's something wrong with USB connected to the front header on
my Gigabyte 8KNXP..... In addition to the Lexar Jump Drive not working
if it's connected to one of the front ports, I just tried a 2.0 hub
connected to a front port and it also came up as a unrecognized
device. Just tried my camera in the front with the same results. I've
been using that camera connected to one of the rear ports since I got
this PC, with no problems, I have a R/C airplane simulator which works
fine connected to a front port. Very perplexing and frustrating.....



Perhaps we ought to revisit the wiring. How does the case present the
connectors? Single pins, pairs, or a block?

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 00:30:11 +0000, Ian
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:08:51 -0500, KatManDEW
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:55:54 -0000, "IanO"
wrote:


"KatManDEW" wrote in message
...
Thanks again. Now I'm thinking that I should get one with a card
reader, which is one of my main uses. But I haven't found any
internal, combination card readers with USB ports, which comes with
an interface, and I think there is something squirely with the front
USB header on this 8KNXP motherboard.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:23:51 -0000, "IanO" wrote:

How about this device -

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...vd19wcm9kdWN0X
292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=32624


The card reader units will only have one USB socket on them as the rest of
the bandwidth is used for the card reading. XP is clever enough to
recognise the readers as devices, via the USB header. It's neat! You have
two headers on the Gigabyte board, so you can probably leave the case ports
connected anyway, unless one of them already feeds a bracket on the back
panel....

I could live with one USB port on the card reader. The only problem is
that there's something wrong with USB connected to the front header on
my Gigabyte 8KNXP..... In addition to the Lexar Jump Drive not working
if it's connected to one of the front ports, I just tried a 2.0 hub
connected to a front port and it also came up as a unrecognized
device. Just tried my camera in the front with the same results. I've
been using that camera connected to one of the rear ports since I got
this PC, with no problems, I have a R/C airplane simulator which works
fine connected to a front port. Very perplexing and frustrating.....



Perhaps we ought to revisit the wiring. How does the case present the
connectors? Single pins, pairs, or a block?


Further to that, I suspect that some devices are not fussed about the
shield, or which way round dx and dy are connected, but other devices
are fussy. I think it's something like that which is your problem, so
maybe, as I say, it's a re-check and re-think of the connections to
the board.