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MB Monitoring Utilities?
Per Beemer:
My guess is that Easytune is trying to monitor one or more fans that are not actually installed as happened to me. Touching each fan's center with your finger will show which fan is which as you watch the Easytune fan page. Then you can lower the slider of the missing fan's so that it changes from red to blue. Of course you must have the fan control activated in the bios. My fans are only 3 pin so I had to set "voltage" as the fan control bios option. You can then select the advanced fan control in Easytune. If you cannot stop the noise you can always switch the sound off in Easytune. That rings true to me. I'll be pulling this thing apart in the next few days if/when I go to Raid0 and I'll do it after rebuilding the sys. -- PeteCresswell |
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MB Monitoring Utilities?
I installed it and it works great for me, however, if I start changing some
of the settings, I assume I could lock up my PC easily. For example, the FSB setting has a slider. If I cranked that up to maximum, the PC could lock up? --g |
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MB Monitoring Utilities?
geoff wrote:
I installed it and it works great for me, however, if I start changing some of the settings, I assume I could lock up my PC easily. For example, the FSB setting has a slider. If I cranked that up to maximum, the PC could lock up? --g That is generally the idea. I was experimenting with my latest build just yesterday, and that is what happened. Instead of Prime95 erroring out, the computer just froze when I bumped up the FSB while in Windows. So a freeze is possible. In my case, I was using SETFSB, because there is no utility for my board. Paul |
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MB Monitoring Utilities?
When one changes one of those sliders, is the change made in the bios.
In other words, if the FSB is bumped up and the computer freezes, can I simply reboot or do I have to put the setting back in the BIOS? --g |
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MB Monitoring Utilities?
geoff wrote:
When one changes one of those sliders, is the change made in the bios. In other words, if the FSB is bumped up and the computer freezes, can I simply reboot or do I have to put the setting back in the BIOS? --g I've never used any tool that changed the BIOS as a side effect. But I understand it is possible to do it. I personally wouldn't use a tool that has BIOS hooks, because that is a little too much automation for my liking. Paul |
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MB Monitoring Utilities?
In general, in terms of percentage, say for the FSB, how much can the speed
be cranked up and still have a reliable system? --g |
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MB Monitoring Utilities?
geoff wrote:
In general, in terms of percentage, say for the FSB, how much can the speed be cranked up and still have a reliable system? --g I'm working on my system right now. The processor was selected, to suit a motherboard with a low limit on FSB (1066). 2.6GHz/FSB800/2MB L2 - nominal is 1.35V (E4700) With a BSEL mod and boosted Vcore (OFFSET pin mod) 3.46GHz/FSB1066 - 1.45V Under those conditions, Prime errors out on one of the two cores, after 15 minutes. Before the Vcore mod was added, I couldn't even get the BIOS to start at that speed. If I use CrystalCPUID, which can change the multiplier and the voltage (but the voltage option is useless for this - VID changes are clipped by the CPU internal logic), I can then run the following condition 2.66GHZ/FSB1066 (multiplier 10X) - 1.45V With those conditions, where the core is no longer overclocked, but my FSB is, I've run Prime on the two cores for eight hours without a problem. So that tells me the chipset, crappy as it is, isn't to blame. I'm not FSB limited. I also get a small percentage improvement in memory bandwidth (3000 to 3300MB/sec, depending on settings and benchmark app). That is still quite a bit lower than any regular motherboards. So currently, that tells me I need a bit more Vcore, if I want to pass Prime. As long as it hasn't hit a wall, and I don't have enough data points to guess at that right now. (I cannot adjust the clock in the BIOS, because the BIOS is known to misprogram the clock generator. Even small overclocks fail. That is why I used BSEL instead, as a canonical clock choice means the BIOS doesn't have to change anything.) I had hoped, when I started this project, I'd be able to just set the clock to 266MHz, and magically I'd get 3.5GHz :-) My last overclock (S478) went about as well. My P4 wouldn't overclock very well either. The experience seems to be, once Intel fine tunes the binning, the cheap processors lose their magic. When a new generation of processor comes out, the first barrel-full seems to be less limited. (Nehalem, get'em while they're hot.) I wouldn't even have bothered overclocking in the first place (because right now, everything is speedy enough at stock), but I noticed when benchmarking that my memory bandwidth was terrible. All I really wanted to do was bump the FSB and leave the core alone, but this Asrock motherboard is fighting every inch of the way. That is why I had to get out the soldering iron... To make up for some moronic decisions by some BIOS designers. They gutted EIST (disabled in BIOS and setting disappeared), and then prevented multiplier changes, and the multiplier field says "change disabled whenever EIST is enabled". Since they disabled EIST and removed it from the BIOS, by their own logic, I should be able to change the multiplier. Nope. So I have to change the multiplier in Windows, and get the computer stable enough, so it can boot at 3.46GHz (only realistic option with respect to the BIOS). That is what I get, for wanting to keep my AGP card and save a few bucks. I'm almost tempted to keep working on it, until I break it. Paul |
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