Asus P4C800-E Deluxe - 3.0Ghz P4 - Aquarius II - Trying to Cool Effectively

Regarding what max temp the cpu can get without frying, it's an Intel P4
chip, so it has thermal protection built in. I don't believe it can fry in
that regard.

You can remove the cooling from the cpu, and it will just slow down, not
fry.

"Paul" wrote in message
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Hi

I have just built a system around the this MB and am trying in vain to
cool
the CPU, a P4 3.0Ghz (800fsb) with an Aqarius II water cooling system. I
am
getting very high temps in 3DMark2003 Pro - 65C although this drops back
to
about 45/50C when under normal load and slightly lower when switched on
but
doing nothing. I have read many items in the forums that this cooling
system is a pile of c**p - would anyone disagree or agree. What is the
max
temp that my CPU can get to without frying? Would anyone like to offer an
alternative cooling system, whether or not water? FWIW I have installed
my
system in a Thermaltake Xaser III case, which has seven case fans, my
Radeon
9800 Pro has its own fan and I have a Q-Tec dual fan PSU - so I wouldn't
have thought air-flow is a problem, despite having four SATA HDD's built
into the case as well. MB temp seems stable around 28/30C

Help needed please!!!

TIA


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Thank you so very much for responding on this La Pedrera. I did manage to
sort out the cooling with this system, by disabling the Q-Fan in Bios, which
increased the Radiator's fan speed and consequently the noise!

That said the Aquarius II is C**P and as I write this, is being replaced
with a Zalman Al/Cu 7000 unit, which I daresay will cool even more and
probably will be just as quiet into the bargain! I say this as it's all
very well swapping a standard cooler for a waterblock but the system needs
driving by both a pump and a radiator fan. The sighting of these inside the
case coupled with the extra wires, causes turbulence inside the case, which
is not good for proper air circulation, so it rather defeats the object. I
have heard nothing but bad things about this water system which was almost
double the price of the Zalman! Had I done my research correctly, I would
have bought the Zalman at the start.

At present now my system is running between 33/36C at idle, 36/40 under
normal load and running 3DMark Pro 2003, it reaches a peak of 50C. My
Radiator fan is at Max, as are my seven case fans. I aim to better these
temps together with the noise, once I've installed the Zalman and then
hopefully begin my O'Clocking.

Thanks again M8

Paul


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"La Pedrera" wrote in message
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Regarding what max temp the cpu can get without frying, it's an Intel P4
chip, so it has thermal protection built in. I don't believe it can fry in
that regard.

You can remove the cooling from the cpu, and it will just slow down, not
fry.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have just built a system around the this MB and am trying in vain to
cool
the CPU, a P4 3.0Ghz (800fsb) with an Aqarius II water cooling system.
I
am
getting very high temps in 3DMark2003 Pro - 65C although this drops back
to
about 45/50C when under normal load and slightly lower when switched on
but
doing nothing. I have read many items in the forums that this cooling
system is a pile of c**p - would anyone disagree or agree. What is the
max
temp that my CPU can get to without frying? Would anyone like to offer
an
alternative cooling system, whether or not water? FWIW I have installed
my
system in a Thermaltake Xaser III case, which has seven case fans, my
Radeon
9800 Pro has its own fan and I have a Q-Tec dual fan PSU - so I wouldn't
have thought air-flow is a problem, despite having four SATA HDD's built
into the case as well. MB temp seems stable around 28/30C

Help needed please!!!

TIA


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I just got a Xaser III case myself, the V1420A (a v1000 with a
thermaltake 420W PS).

other than the fan setup to the Hardcano being a little tricky, the
case is GREAT.

Running a 2.8Ghz 800FSB, Geforce 4 card, and 512Mb Ram, 2 IDE hard
drives, and a P4C800-E Deluxe board.
My intel chip is retail, so i'm using the intel heatsink/fan...

I usually run 29 C on the temp.. and while running BF1942, playing
myself and also acting as server to 6 other pc's playing, i only hit
41C....
the case is GREAT



On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:56 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

Thank you so very much for responding on this La Pedrera. I did manage to
sort out the cooling with this system, by disabling the Q-Fan in Bios, which
increased the Radiator's fan speed and consequently the noise!

That said the Aquarius II is C**P and as I write this, is being replaced
with a Zalman Al/Cu 7000 unit, which I daresay will cool even more and
probably will be just as quiet into the bargain! I say this as it's all
very well swapping a standard cooler for a waterblock but the system needs
driving by both a pump and a radiator fan. The sighting of these inside the
case coupled with the extra wires, causes turbulence inside the case, which
is not good for proper air circulation, so it rather defeats the object. I
have heard nothing but bad things about this water system which was almost
double the price of the Zalman! Had I done my research correctly, I would
have bought the Zalman at the start.

At present now my system is running between 33/36C at idle, 36/40 under
normal load and running 3DMark Pro 2003, it reaches a peak of 50C. My
Radiator fan is at Max, as are my seven case fans. I aim to better these
temps together with the noise, once I've installed the Zalman and then
hopefully begin my O'Clocking.

Thanks again M8

Paul


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"La Pedrera" wrote in message
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Regarding what max temp the cpu can get without frying, it's an Intel P4
chip, so it has thermal protection built in. I don't believe it can fry in
that regard.

You can remove the cooling from the cpu, and it will just slow down, not
fry.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have just built a system around the this MB and am trying in vain to
cool
the CPU, a P4 3.0Ghz (800fsb) with an Aqarius II water cooling system.
I
am
getting very high temps in 3DMark2003 Pro - 65C although this drops back
to
about 45/50C when under normal load and slightly lower when switched on
but
doing nothing. I have read many items in the forums that this cooling
system is a pile of c**p - would anyone disagree or agree. What is the
max
temp that my CPU can get to without frying? Would anyone like to offer
an
alternative cooling system, whether or not water? FWIW I have installed
my
system in a Thermaltake Xaser III case, which has seven case fans, my
Radeon
9800 Pro has its own fan and I have a Q-Tec dual fan PSU - so I wouldn't
have thought air-flow is a problem, despite having four SATA HDD's built
into the case as well. MB temp seems stable around 28/30C

Help needed please!!!

TIA


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I never said there was anything wrong with the case lol!


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"BobMarley" wrote in message
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I just got a Xaser III case myself, the V1420A (a v1000 with a
thermaltake 420W PS).

other than the fan setup to the Hardcano being a little tricky, the
case is GREAT.

Running a 2.8Ghz 800FSB, Geforce 4 card, and 512Mb Ram, 2 IDE hard
drives, and a P4C800-E Deluxe board.
My intel chip is retail, so i'm using the intel heatsink/fan...

I usually run 29 C on the temp.. and while running BF1942, playing
myself and also acting as server to 6 other pc's playing, i only hit
41C....
the case is GREAT



On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:56 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

Thank you so very much for responding on this La Pedrera. I did manage
to
sort out the cooling with this system, by disabling the Q-Fan in Bios,
which
increased the Radiator's fan speed and consequently the noise!

That said the Aquarius II is C**P and as I write this, is being replaced
with a Zalman Al/Cu 7000 unit, which I daresay will cool even more and
probably will be just as quiet into the bargain! I say this as it's all
very well swapping a standard cooler for a waterblock but the system
needs
driving by both a pump and a radiator fan. The sighting of these inside
the
case coupled with the extra wires, causes turbulence inside the case,
which
is not good for proper air circulation, so it rather defeats the object.
I
have heard nothing but bad things about this water system which was
almost
double the price of the Zalman! Had I done my research correctly, I
would
have bought the Zalman at the start.

At present now my system is running between 33/36C at idle, 36/40 under
normal load and running 3DMark Pro 2003, it reaches a peak of 50C. My
Radiator fan is at Max, as are my seven case fans. I aim to better these
temps together with the noise, once I've installed the Zalman and then
hopefully begin my O'Clocking.

Thanks again M8

Paul


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"La Pedrera" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
Regarding what max temp the cpu can get without frying, it's an Intel
P4
chip, so it has thermal protection built in. I don't believe it can fry
in
that regard.

You can remove the cooling from the cpu, and it will just slow down,
not
fry.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have just built a system around the this MB and am trying in vain
to
cool
the CPU, a P4 3.0Ghz (800fsb) with an Aqarius II water cooling
system.
I
am
getting very high temps in 3DMark2003 Pro - 65C although this drops
back
to
about 45/50C when under normal load and slightly lower when switched
on
but
doing nothing. I have read many items in the forums that this
cooling
system is a pile of c**p - would anyone disagree or agree. What is
the
max
temp that my CPU can get to without frying? Would anyone like to
offer
an
alternative cooling system, whether or not water? FWIW I have
installed
my
system in a Thermaltake Xaser III case, which has seven case fans, my
Radeon
9800 Pro has its own fan and I have a Q-Tec dual fan PSU - so I
wouldn't
have thought air-flow is a problem, despite having four SATA HDD's
built
into the case as well. MB temp seems stable around 28/30C

Help needed please!!!

TIA


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I know, I was just implying that the case definitely keeps things
cool...

I'm just a bit upset that you can't buy many case mods.. the
thermaltake site shows TONS out there.. but i can't find anywhere to
find the PerfectLight's for it.... none of the linked resellers have
it..
i've emailed the company w/ no response yet


On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:17:53 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

I never said there was anything wrong with the case lol!


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"BobMarley" wrote in message
.. .
I just got a Xaser III case myself, the V1420A (a v1000 with a
thermaltake 420W PS).

other than the fan setup to the Hardcano being a little tricky, the
case is GREAT.

Running a 2.8Ghz 800FSB, Geforce 4 card, and 512Mb Ram, 2 IDE hard
drives, and a P4C800-E Deluxe board.
My intel chip is retail, so i'm using the intel heatsink/fan...

I usually run 29 C on the temp.. and while running BF1942, playing
myself and also acting as server to 6 other pc's playing, i only hit
41C....
the case is GREAT



On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:56 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

Thank you so very much for responding on this La Pedrera. I did manage
to
sort out the cooling with this system, by disabling the Q-Fan in Bios,
which
increased the Radiator's fan speed and consequently the noise!

That said the Aquarius II is C**P and as I write this, is being replaced
with a Zalman Al/Cu 7000 unit, which I daresay will cool even more and
probably will be just as quiet into the bargain! I say this as it's all
very well swapping a standard cooler for a waterblock but the system
needs
driving by both a pump and a radiator fan. The sighting of these inside
the
case coupled with the extra wires, causes turbulence inside the case,
which
is not good for proper air circulation, so it rather defeats the object.
I
have heard nothing but bad things about this water system which was
almost
double the price of the Zalman! Had I done my research correctly, I
would
have bought the Zalman at the start.

At present now my system is running between 33/36C at idle, 36/40 under
normal load and running 3DMark Pro 2003, it reaches a peak of 50C. My
Radiator fan is at Max, as are my seven case fans. I aim to better these
temps together with the noise, once I've installed the Zalman and then
hopefully begin my O'Clocking.

Thanks again M8

Paul


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"La Pedrera" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
Regarding what max temp the cpu can get without frying, it's an Intel
P4
chip, so it has thermal protection built in. I don't believe it can fry
in
that regard.

You can remove the cooling from the cpu, and it will just slow down,
not
fry.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have just built a system around the this MB and am trying in vain
to
cool
the CPU, a P4 3.0Ghz (800fsb) with an Aqarius II water cooling
system.
I
am
getting very high temps in 3DMark2003 Pro - 65C although this drops
back
to
about 45/50C when under normal load and slightly lower when switched
on
but
doing nothing. I have read many items in the forums that this
cooling
system is a pile of c**p - would anyone disagree or agree. What is
the
max
temp that my CPU can get to without frying? Would anyone like to
offer
an
alternative cooling system, whether or not water? FWIW I have
installed
my
system in a Thermaltake Xaser III case, which has seven case fans, my
Radeon
9800 Pro has its own fan and I have a Q-Tec dual fan PSU - so I
wouldn't
have thought air-flow is a problem, despite having four SATA HDD's
built
into the case as well. MB temp seems stable around 28/30C

Help needed please!!!

TIA


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Not sure where you're from M8 but Dabs.co.uk / Dabs.com seem to carry
Thermaltake stuff and they're excellent to deal with if you are in the UK -
I got my case, Neon Light and Xview Kit from them.
HTH

Paul

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"BobMarley" wrote in message
...
I know, I was just implying that the case definitely keeps things
cool...

I'm just a bit upset that you can't buy many case mods.. the
thermaltake site shows TONS out there.. but i can't find anywhere to
find the PerfectLight's for it.... none of the linked resellers have
it..
i've emailed the company w/ no response yet


On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:17:53 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

I never said there was anything wrong with the case lol!


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"BobMarley" wrote in message
.. .
I just got a Xaser III case myself, the V1420A (a v1000 with a
thermaltake 420W PS).

other than the fan setup to the Hardcano being a little tricky, the
case is GREAT.

Running a 2.8Ghz 800FSB, Geforce 4 card, and 512Mb Ram, 2 IDE hard
drives, and a P4C800-E Deluxe board.
My intel chip is retail, so i'm using the intel heatsink/fan...

I usually run 29 C on the temp.. and while running BF1942, playing
myself and also acting as server to 6 other pc's playing, i only hit
41C....
the case is GREAT



On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:56 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

Thank you so very much for responding on this La Pedrera. I did
manage
to
sort out the cooling with this system, by disabling the Q-Fan in Bios,
which
increased the Radiator's fan speed and consequently the noise!

That said the Aquarius II is C**P and as I write this, is being
replaced
with a Zalman Al/Cu 7000 unit, which I daresay will cool even more and
probably will be just as quiet into the bargain! I say this as it's
all
very well swapping a standard cooler for a waterblock but the system
needs
driving by both a pump and a radiator fan. The sighting of these
inside
the
case coupled with the extra wires, causes turbulence inside the case,
which
is not good for proper air circulation, so it rather defeats the
object.
I
have heard nothing but bad things about this water system which was
almost
double the price of the Zalman! Had I done my research correctly, I
would
have bought the Zalman at the start.

At present now my system is running between 33/36C at idle, 36/40
under
normal load and running 3DMark Pro 2003, it reaches a peak of 50C. My
Radiator fan is at Max, as are my seven case fans. I aim to better
these
temps together with the noise, once I've installed the Zalman and then
hopefully begin my O'Clocking.

Thanks again M8

Paul


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"La Pedrera" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
Regarding what max temp the cpu can get without frying, it's an
Intel
P4
chip, so it has thermal protection built in. I don't believe it can
fry
in
that regard.

You can remove the cooling from the cpu, and it will just slow down,
not
fry.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have just built a system around the this MB and am trying in
vain
to
cool
the CPU, a P4 3.0Ghz (800fsb) with an Aqarius II water cooling
system.
I
am
getting very high temps in 3DMark2003 Pro - 65C although this
drops
back
to
about 45/50C when under normal load and slightly lower when
switched
on
but
doing nothing. I have read many items in the forums that this
cooling
system is a pile of c**p - would anyone disagree or agree. What
is
the
max
temp that my CPU can get to without frying? Would anyone like to
offer
an
alternative cooling system, whether or not water? FWIW I have
installed
my
system in a Thermaltake Xaser III case, which has seven case fans,
my
Radeon
9800 Pro has its own fan and I have a Q-Tec dual fan PSU - so I
wouldn't
have thought air-flow is a problem, despite having four SATA HDD's
built
into the case as well. MB temp seems stable around 28/30C

Help needed please!!!

TIA



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US, in South Carolina....
can't find any here that sell the lights. I got the case here and have
found lots of other stuff.. just no lights.
I'll try the dabs sight. thanks


On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:45:38 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

Not sure where you're from M8 but Dabs.co.uk / Dabs.com seem to carry
Thermaltake stuff and they're excellent to deal with if you are in the UK -
I got my case, Neon Light and Xview Kit from them.
HTH

Paul

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"BobMarley" wrote in message
.. .
I know, I was just implying that the case definitely keeps things
cool...

I'm just a bit upset that you can't buy many case mods.. the
thermaltake site shows TONS out there.. but i can't find anywhere to
find the PerfectLight's for it.... none of the linked resellers have
it..
i've emailed the company w/ no response yet


On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:17:53 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

I never said there was anything wrong with the case lol!


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"BobMarley" wrote in message
.. .
I just got a Xaser III case myself, the V1420A (a v1000 with a
thermaltake 420W PS).

other than the fan setup to the Hardcano being a little tricky, the
case is GREAT.

Running a 2.8Ghz 800FSB, Geforce 4 card, and 512Mb Ram, 2 IDE hard
drives, and a P4C800-E Deluxe board.
My intel chip is retail, so i'm using the intel heatsink/fan...

I usually run 29 C on the temp.. and while running BF1942, playing
myself and also acting as server to 6 other pc's playing, i only hit
41C....
the case is GREAT



On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:56 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

Thank you so very much for responding on this La Pedrera. I did
manage
to
sort out the cooling with this system, by disabling the Q-Fan in Bios,
which
increased the Radiator's fan speed and consequently the noise!

That said the Aquarius II is C**P and as I write this, is being
replaced
with a Zalman Al/Cu 7000 unit, which I daresay will cool even more and
probably will be just as quiet into the bargain! I say this as it's
all
very well swapping a standard cooler for a waterblock but the system
needs
driving by both a pump and a radiator fan. The sighting of these
inside
the
case coupled with the extra wires, causes turbulence inside the case,
which
is not good for proper air circulation, so it rather defeats the
object.
I
have heard nothing but bad things about this water system which was
almost
double the price of the Zalman! Had I done my research correctly, I
would
have bought the Zalman at the start.

At present now my system is running between 33/36C at idle, 36/40
under
normal load and running 3DMark Pro 2003, it reaches a peak of 50C. My
Radiator fan is at Max, as are my seven case fans. I aim to better
these
temps together with the noise, once I've installed the Zalman and then
hopefully begin my O'Clocking.

Thanks again M8

Paul


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"La Pedrera" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
Regarding what max temp the cpu can get without frying, it's an
Intel
P4
chip, so it has thermal protection built in. I don't believe it can
fry
in
that regard.

You can remove the cooling from the cpu, and it will just slow down,
not
fry.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have just built a system around the this MB and am trying in
vain
to
cool
the CPU, a P4 3.0Ghz (800fsb) with an Aqarius II water cooling
system.
I
am
getting very high temps in 3DMark2003 Pro - 65C although this
drops
back
to
about 45/50C when under normal load and slightly lower when
switched
on
but
doing nothing. I have read many items in the forums that this
cooling
system is a pile of c**p - would anyone disagree or agree. What
is
the
max
temp that my CPU can get to without frying? Would anyone like to
offer
an
alternative cooling system, whether or not water? FWIW I have
installed
my
system in a Thermaltake Xaser III case, which has seven case fans,
my
Radeon
9800 Pro has its own fan and I have a Q-Tec dual fan PSU - so I
wouldn't
have thought air-flow is a problem, despite having four SATA HDD's
built
into the case as well. MB temp seems stable around 28/30C

Help needed please!!!

TIA



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Thermaltake just emailed me back... no plans to import PerfectLight's
to the United States. That SUCKS.
is the one sold in the UK based on 220V or will it work in a US case?
i wonder...


On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:33:49 GMT, BobMarley
wrote:

US, in South Carolina....
can't find any here that sell the lights. I got the case here and have
found lots of other stuff.. just no lights.
I'll try the dabs sight. thanks


On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:45:38 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

Not sure where you're from M8 but Dabs.co.uk / Dabs.com seem to carry
Thermaltake stuff and they're excellent to deal with if you are in the UK -
I got my case, Neon Light and Xview Kit from them.
HTH

Paul

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"BobMarley" wrote in message
. ..
I know, I was just implying that the case definitely keeps things
cool...

I'm just a bit upset that you can't buy many case mods.. the
thermaltake site shows TONS out there.. but i can't find anywhere to
find the PerfectLight's for it.... none of the linked resellers have
it..
i've emailed the company w/ no response yet


On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:17:53 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

I never said there was anything wrong with the case lol!


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"BobMarley" wrote in message
.. .
I just got a Xaser III case myself, the V1420A (a v1000 with a
thermaltake 420W PS).

other than the fan setup to the Hardcano being a little tricky, the
case is GREAT.

Running a 2.8Ghz 800FSB, Geforce 4 card, and 512Mb Ram, 2 IDE hard
drives, and a P4C800-E Deluxe board.
My intel chip is retail, so i'm using the intel heatsink/fan...

I usually run 29 C on the temp.. and while running BF1942, playing
myself and also acting as server to 6 other pc's playing, i only hit
41C....
the case is GREAT



On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:48:56 -0000, "Paul"
wrote:

Thank you so very much for responding on this La Pedrera. I did
manage
to
sort out the cooling with this system, by disabling the Q-Fan in Bios,
which
increased the Radiator's fan speed and consequently the noise!

That said the Aquarius II is C**P and as I write this, is being
replaced
with a Zalman Al/Cu 7000 unit, which I daresay will cool even more and
probably will be just as quiet into the bargain! I say this as it's
all
very well swapping a standard cooler for a waterblock but the system
needs
driving by both a pump and a radiator fan. The sighting of these
inside
the
case coupled with the extra wires, causes turbulence inside the case,
which
is not good for proper air circulation, so it rather defeats the
object.
I
have heard nothing but bad things about this water system which was
almost
double the price of the Zalman! Had I done my research correctly, I
would
have bought the Zalman at the start.

At present now my system is running between 33/36C at idle, 36/40
under
normal load and running 3DMark Pro 2003, it reaches a peak of 50C. My
Radiator fan is at Max, as are my seven case fans. I aim to better
these
temps together with the noise, once I've installed the Zalman and then
hopefully begin my O'Clocking.

Thanks again M8

Paul


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"La Pedrera" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
Regarding what max temp the cpu can get without frying, it's an
Intel
P4
chip, so it has thermal protection built in. I don't believe it can
fry
in
that regard.

You can remove the cooling from the cpu, and it will just slow down,
not
fry.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have just built a system around the this MB and am trying in
vain
to
cool
the CPU, a P4 3.0Ghz (800fsb) with an Aqarius II water cooling
system.
I
am
getting very high temps in 3DMark2003 Pro - 65C although this
drops
back
to
about 45/50C when under normal load and slightly lower when
switched
on
but
doing nothing. I have read many items in the forums that this
cooling
system is a pile of c**p - would anyone disagree or agree. What
is
the
max
temp that my CPU can get to without frying? Would anyone like to
offer
an
alternative cooling system, whether or not water? FWIW I have
installed
my
system in a Thermaltake Xaser III case, which has seven case fans,
my
Radeon
9800 Pro has its own fan and I have a Q-Tec dual fan PSU - so I
wouldn't
have thought air-flow is a problem, despite having four SATA HDD's
built
into the case as well. MB temp seems stable around 28/30C

Help needed please!!!

TIA



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Jeebus!! 7 case fans?

I'm running the coolermaster wavemaster case, 2 fans at the front, 1 at the
back, plus cpu fan and the 2 in the power supply.
System is running 4 sata drives, 3GHZ, with 4gb memory. No heat issues. Me
thinks case has big part in this.

P4C800E-Deluxe board.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Thank you so very much for responding on this La Pedrera. I did manage to
sort out the cooling with this system, by disabling the Q-Fan in Bios,
which
increased the Radiator's fan speed and consequently the noise!

That said the Aquarius II is C**P and as I write this, is being replaced
with a Zalman Al/Cu 7000 unit, which I daresay will cool even more and
probably will be just as quiet into the bargain! I say this as it's all
very well swapping a standard cooler for a waterblock but the system needs
driving by both a pump and a radiator fan. The sighting of these inside
the
case coupled with the extra wires, causes turbulence inside the case,
which
is not good for proper air circulation, so it rather defeats the object.
I
have heard nothing but bad things about this water system which was almost
double the price of the Zalman! Had I done my research correctly, I would
have bought the Zalman at the start.

At present now my system is running between 33/36C at idle, 36/40 under
normal load and running 3DMark Pro 2003, it reaches a peak of 50C. My
Radiator fan is at Max, as are my seven case fans. I aim to better these
temps together with the noise, once I've installed the Zalman and then
hopefully begin my O'Clocking.

Thanks again M8

Paul


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"La Pedrera" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...
Regarding what max temp the cpu can get without frying, it's an Intel P4
chip, so it has thermal protection built in. I don't believe it can fry
in
that regard.

You can remove the cooling from the cpu, and it will just slow down, not
fry.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have just built a system around the this MB and am trying in vain to
cool
the CPU, a P4 3.0Ghz (800fsb) with an Aqarius II water cooling system.
I
am
getting very high temps in 3DMark2003 Pro - 65C although this drops
back
to
about 45/50C when under normal load and slightly lower when switched
on
but
doing nothing. I have read many items in the forums that this cooling
system is a pile of c**p - would anyone disagree or agree. What is
the
max
temp that my CPU can get to without frying? Would anyone like to
offer
an
alternative cooling system, whether or not water? FWIW I have
installed
my
system in a Thermaltake Xaser III case, which has seven case fans, my
Radeon
9800 Pro has its own fan and I have a Q-Tec dual fan PSU - so I
wouldn't
have thought air-flow is a problem, despite having four SATA HDD's
built
into the case as well. MB temp seems stable around 28/30C

Help needed please!!!

TIA


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Yeah, awesome case.
http://www.thermaltake.com

2 on the side, 2 next to the cpu, 2 up front and one up top..
plus the power supply




On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 02:40:53 GMT, "La Pedrera"
wrote:

Jeebus!! 7 case fans?

I'm running the coolermaster wavemaster case, 2 fans at the front, 1 at the
back, plus cpu fan and the 2 in the power supply.
System is running 4 sata drives, 3GHZ, with 4gb memory. No heat issues. Me
thinks case has big part in this.

P4C800E-Deluxe board.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Thank you so very much for responding on this La Pedrera. I did manage to
sort out the cooling with this system, by disabling the Q-Fan in Bios,
which
increased the Radiator's fan speed and consequently the noise!

That said the Aquarius II is C**P and as I write this, is being replaced
with a Zalman Al/Cu 7000 unit, which I daresay will cool even more and
probably will be just as quiet into the bargain! I say this as it's all
very well swapping a standard cooler for a waterblock but the system needs
driving by both a pump and a radiator fan. The sighting of these inside
the
case coupled with the extra wires, causes turbulence inside the case,
which
is not good for proper air circulation, so it rather defeats the object.
I
have heard nothing but bad things about this water system which was almost
double the price of the Zalman! Had I done my research correctly, I would
have bought the Zalman at the start.

At present now my system is running between 33/36C at idle, 36/40 under
normal load and running 3DMark Pro 2003, it reaches a peak of 50C. My
Radiator fan is at Max, as are my seven case fans. I aim to better these
temps together with the noise, once I've installed the Zalman and then
hopefully begin my O'Clocking.

Thanks again M8

Paul


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"La Pedrera" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...
Regarding what max temp the cpu can get without frying, it's an Intel P4
chip, so it has thermal protection built in. I don't believe it can fry
in
that regard.

You can remove the cooling from the cpu, and it will just slow down, not
fry.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have just built a system around the this MB and am trying in vain to
cool
the CPU, a P4 3.0Ghz (800fsb) with an Aqarius II water cooling system.
I
am
getting very high temps in 3DMark2003 Pro - 65C although this drops
back
to
about 45/50C when under normal load and slightly lower when switched
on
but
doing nothing. I have read many items in the forums that this cooling
system is a pile of c**p - would anyone disagree or agree. What is
the
max
temp that my CPU can get to without frying? Would anyone like to
offer
an
alternative cooling system, whether or not water? FWIW I have
installed
my
system in a Thermaltake Xaser III case, which has seven case fans, my
Radeon
9800 Pro has its own fan and I have a Q-Tec dual fan PSU - so I
wouldn't
have thought air-flow is a problem, despite having four SATA HDD's
built
into the case as well. MB temp seems stable around 28/30C

Help needed please!!!

TIA


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