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cloning software, data from a HP xw4600 workstation(running Windowsvista 32 bit) to HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit)
The HP xw4600 has lot of programs(like Matlab, Labview, Borland
Compiler) on it and there are no installation disks for those programs. So, the entire contents(data, application program like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) need to be copied from it to the HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit). The total used capacity on the HP XW4600 is 75GB and the HP z200 has a hard disk of 500GB 1. Is there some data cable which will allow a quick copy from the hard drive of XW4600 to z200? The user thinks using a data cable the data, program files can be copied in 20 minutes. I know hard disk to hard disk transfer using a cable copies data(not application programs), but one disk needs to be set as slave and other as master. Is there some other way where using a cable a quick copy(of data, programs) can be done? If so, which data cable is used for it and how is it done? 2. If the software route is chosen for cloning, do I need to make a partition in the z200, then make an image of xw4600 to an external hard drive using some tool like DriveImage XML V2.30 http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm then copy the image from external hard drive to the partition on z200, where the image can be extracted using DriveImage to get a replica of the xw4600 contents on the z200? Or, did I miss something? 3. Are there any other free cloning software I should consider besides the ones at http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...election_Guide since the two computers have different operating systems, different models? It is OK if the z200 needs to be wiped during the process since it contains no data or programs. |
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cloning software, data from a HP xw4600 workstation(running Windowsvista 32 bit) to HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit)
t wrote:
The HP xw4600 has lot of programs(like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) on it and there are no installation disks for those programs. So, the entire contents(data, application program like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) need to be copied from it to the HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit). The total used capacity on the HP XW4600 is 75GB and the HP z200 has a hard disk of 500GB 1. Is there some data cable which will allow a quick copy from the hard drive of XW4600 to z200? The user thinks using a data cable the data, program files can be copied in 20 minutes. I know hard disk to hard disk transfer using a cable copies data(not application programs), but one disk needs to be set as slave and other as master. Is there some other way where using a cable a quick copy(of data, programs) can be done? If so, which data cable is used for it and how is it done? 2. If the software route is chosen for cloning, do I need to make a partition in the z200, then make an image of xw4600 to an external hard drive using some tool like DriveImage XML V2.30 http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm then copy the image from external hard drive to the partition on z200, where the image can be extracted using DriveImage to get a replica of the xw4600 contents on the z200? Or, did I miss something? 3. Are there any other free cloning software I should consider besides the ones at http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...election_Guide since the two computers have different operating systems, different models? It is OK if the z200 needs to be wiped during the process since it contains no data or programs. Why alt.comp.hardware ? This isn't a hardware question. I recommend finding the install discs for Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler. And the license key information. You're going to need them. Copying disks is trivial. Copying programs is not trivial. Commercial programs especially, are not going to appreciate being trivially copied. Otherwise, if I was a big company with 10,000 computers, I could buy one copy of Matlab and just copy it over to the other 9,999 machines. Don't you think they're going to try to find some way to stop that ? These aren't "Linux Freebee" programs... Paul |
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cloning software, data from a HP xw4600 workstation(running Windows vista 32 bit) to HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit)
"Paul" wrote:
t wrote: The HP xw4600 has lot of programs(like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) on it and there are no installation disks for those programs. So, the entire contents(data, application program like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) need to be copied from it to the HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit). I recommend finding the install discs for Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler. And the license key information. You're going to need them. Copying disks is trivial. Copying programs is not trivial. Commercial programs especially, are not going to appreciate being trivially cop Besides just the files, the registry entries for these programs will be needed. |
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cloning software, data from a HP xw4600 workstation(running Windowsvista 32 bit) to HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit)
On 8/23/2012 6:02 PM, Paul wrote:
t wrote: The HP xw4600 has lot of programs(like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) on it and there are no installation disks for those programs. So, the entire contents(data, application program like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) need to be copied from it to the HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit). The total used capacity on the HP XW4600 is 75GB and the HP z200 has a hard disk of 500GB 1. Is there some data cable which will allow a quick copy from the hard drive of XW4600 to z200? The user thinks using a data cable the data, program files can be copied in 20 minutes. I know hard disk to hard disk transfer using a cable copies data(not application programs), but one disk needs to be set as slave and other as master. Is there some other way where using a cable a quick copy(of data, programs) can be done? If so, which data cable is used for it and how is it done? 2. If the software route is chosen for cloning, do I need to make a partition in the z200, then make an image of xw4600 to an external hard drive using some tool like DriveImage XML V2.30 http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm then copy the image from external hard drive to the partition on z200, where the image can be extracted using DriveImage to get a replica of the xw4600 contents on the z200? Or, did I miss something? 3. Are there any other free cloning software I should consider besides the ones at http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...election_Guide since the two computers have different operating systems, different models? It is OK if the z200 needs to be wiped during the process since it contains no data or programs. Why alt.comp.hardware ? This isn't a hardware question. Since it involved making a clone of a hard disk from one computer model to another, I thought if someone can offer some suggestions it would be helpful. I posted in 24hoursupport.helpdesk, but that newsgroup seems overwhelmed so my post did not appear. I recommend finding the install discs for Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler. And the license key information. You're going to need them. The user got them few years back and does not even remember where they are. He remembers, his neighbor using some data cable copied all his contents(data, programs) from old to new hard drive within few minutes. He did not need the install discs and they worked fine on his new hard drive. Copying disks is trivial. Copying programs is not trivial. Yes, to some extent, but you may be knowing of drive imaging where you can make a image of your current machine state, then load the image to other computers so that you don't have to install the OS, programs and other configurations. In lot of places, 1 image is created, then deployed on 999 computers. Naturally, they get software program licenses for the 1000 computers. |
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cloning software, data from a HP xw4600 workstation(running Windowsvista 32 bit) to HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit)
t wrote:
On 8/23/2012 6:02 PM, Paul wrote: t wrote: The HP xw4600 has lot of programs(like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) on it and there are no installation disks for those programs. So, the entire contents(data, application program like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) need to be copied from it to the HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit). The total used capacity on the HP XW4600 is 75GB and the HP z200 has a hard disk of 500GB 1. Is there some data cable which will allow a quick copy from the hard drive of XW4600 to z200? The user thinks using a data cable the data, program files can be copied in 20 minutes. I know hard disk to hard disk transfer using a cable copies data(not application programs), but one disk needs to be set as slave and other as master. Is there some other way where using a cable a quick copy(of data, programs) can be done? If so, which data cable is used for it and how is it done? 2. If the software route is chosen for cloning, do I need to make a partition in the z200, then make an image of xw4600 to an external hard drive using some tool like DriveImage XML V2.30 http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm then copy the image from external hard drive to the partition on z200, where the image can be extracted using DriveImage to get a replica of the xw4600 contents on the z200? Or, did I miss something? 3. Are there any other free cloning software I should consider besides the ones at http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...election_Guide since the two computers have different operating systems, different models? It is OK if the z200 needs to be wiped during the process since it contains no data or programs. Why alt.comp.hardware ? This isn't a hardware question. Since it involved making a clone of a hard disk from one computer model to another, I thought if someone can offer some suggestions it would be helpful. I posted in 24hoursupport.helpdesk, but that newsgroup seems overwhelmed so my post did not appear. I recommend finding the install discs for Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler. And the license key information. You're going to need them. The user got them few years back and does not even remember where they are. He remembers, his neighbor using some data cable copied all his contents(data, programs) from old to new hard drive within few minutes. He did not need the install discs and they worked fine on his new hard drive. Copying disks is trivial. Copying programs is not trivial. Yes, to some extent, but you may be knowing of drive imaging where you can make a image of your current machine state, then load the image to other computers so that you don't have to install the OS, programs and other configurations. In lot of places, 1 image is created, then deployed on 999 computers. Naturally, they get software program licenses for the 1000 computers. Let's take as an example, Windows licensing. http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm Notice how Windows keeps track of the hardware it's running on. It knows, if you plug the disk into another computer, and try to boot from it. ******* You can clone disks with things like Macrium Reflect Free. Or, you can go to wdc.com or seagate.com, and get their cloning software. The cloning software works, as long as you have at least one Western Digital or Seagate branded disk, respectively. (There are other disk brands, but since WD and Seagate started buying up companies, there aren't that many options left.) Or, you can boot a Linux LiveCD, use GParted or even do a sector by sector copy with "dd" sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb In that example, the target disk (sdb) would be the same size or bigger, than the source disk (sda). I copy disks like that, all the time. If the partitions need to be resized later, that's what a free partition manager is for. Just plop the two disks in the same computer, and copy one disk to the other. No need for a "transfer cable". Open the side of the machine, pop in the foreign disk, go to work... That part is simple. Moving expensive programs around, expect trouble. (Or, spend your days downloading hacked copies off the Internet. I'm sure your boss at work would be impressed by that.) Paul |
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cloning software, data from a HP xw4600 workstation(running Windows vista 32 bit) to HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit)
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.com: Since it involved making a clone of a hard disk from one computer model to another, I thought if someone can offer some suggestions it would be helpful. I posted in 24hoursupport.helpdesk, but that newsgroup seems overwhelmed so my post did not appear. google "clonezilla" and check it out. if you dont like that, find a copy of norton ghost. -- http://www.skepticalscience.com/ http://stopbeck.com|www.snuhwolf.9f.com|www.eyeonpalin.org _____ ____ ____ __ /\_/\ __ _ ______ _____ / __/ |/ / / / / // // . . \\ \ |\ | / __ \ \ \ __\ _\ \/ / /_/ / _ / \ / \ \| \| \ \_\ \ \__\ _\ /___/_/|_/\____/_//_/ \_@_/ \__|\__|\____/\____\_\ |
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cloning software, data from a HP xw4600 workstation(running Windows vista 32 bit) to HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit)
t wrote:
The HP xw4600 has lot of programs(like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) on it and there are no installation disks for those programs. So, the entire contents(data, application program like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) need to be copied from it to the HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit). The total used capacity on the HP XW4600 is 75GB and the HP z200 has a hard disk of 500GB 1. Is there some data cable which will allow a quick copy from the hard drive of XW4600 to z200? The user thinks using a data cable the data, program files can be copied in 20 minutes. I know hard disk to hard disk transfer using a cable copies data(not application programs), but one disk needs to be set as slave and other as master. Is there some other way where using a cable a quick copy(of data, programs) can be done? If so, which data cable is used for it and how is it done? 2. If the software route is chosen for cloning, do I need to make a partition in the z200, then make an image of xw4600 to an external hard drive using some tool like DriveImage XML V2.30 http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm then copy the image from external hard drive to the partition on z200, where the image can be extracted using DriveImage to get a replica of the xw4600 contents on the z200? Or, did I miss something? 3. Are there any other free cloning software I should consider besides the ones at http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...drive-imaging- program.htm#Quick_Selection_Guide since the two computers have different operating systems, different models? It is OK if the z200 needs to be wiped during the process since it contains no data or programs. the first question i would ask what OS is the HP xw4600 running you did not say if it was xp, vista or win7 |
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cloning software, data from a HP xw4600 workstation(runningWindows vista 32 bit) to HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit)
On 2012-08-23, t wrote:
The HP xw4600 has lot of programs(like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) on it and there are no installation disks for those programs. So, the entire contents(data, application program like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) need to be copied from it to the HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit). The total used capacity on the HP XW4600 is 75GB and the HP z200 has a hard disk of 500GB [...] I recommend you get in touch with each of the software companies involved and ask them for advice. The license number is probably stored somewhere within each program, and it should be possible to find it. Clicking on Help - About in each program may do it. -- -- ^^^^^^^^^^ -- Whiskers -- ~~~~~~~~~~ |
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cloning software, data from a HP xw4600 workstation(running Windowsvista 32 bit) to HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit)
Whiskers wrote:
On 2012-08-23, t wrote: The HP xw4600 has lot of programs(like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) on it and there are no installation disks for those programs. So, the entire contents(data, application program like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) need to be copied from it to the HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit). The total used capacity on the HP XW4600 is 75GB and the HP z200 has a hard disk of 500GB [...] I recommend you get in touch with each of the software companies involved and ask them for advice. The license number is probably stored somewhere within each program, and it should be possible to find it. Clicking on Help - About in each program may do it. You could try Belarc Advisor too. http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html Paul |
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cloning software, data from a HP xw4600 workstation(running Windowsvista 32 bit) to HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit)
On 8/23/2012 11:03 PM, Paul wrote:
t wrote: On 8/23/2012 6:02 PM, Paul wrote: t wrote: The HP xw4600 has lot of programs(like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) on it and there are no installation disks for those programs. So, the entire contents(data, application program like Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler) need to be copied from it to the HP z200 workstation(running Windows 7 64 bit). The total used capacity on the HP XW4600 is 75GB and the HP z200 has a hard disk of 500GB 1. Is there some data cable which will allow a quick copy from the hard drive of XW4600 to z200? The user thinks using a data cable the data, program files can be copied in 20 minutes. I know hard disk to hard disk transfer using a cable copies data(not application programs), but one disk needs to be set as slave and other as master. Is there some other way where using a cable a quick copy(of data, programs) can be done? If so, which data cable is used for it and how is it done? 2. If the software route is chosen for cloning, do I need to make a partition in the z200, then make an image of xw4600 to an external hard drive using some tool like DriveImage XML V2.30 http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm then copy the image from external hard drive to the partition on z200, where the image can be extracted using DriveImage to get a replica of the xw4600 contents on the z200? Or, did I miss something? 3. Are there any other free cloning software I should consider besides the ones at http://www.techsupportalert.com/best...election_Guide since the two computers have different operating systems, different models? It is OK if the z200 needs to be wiped during the process since it contains no data or programs. Why alt.comp.hardware ? This isn't a hardware question. Since it involved making a clone of a hard disk from one computer model to another, I thought if someone can offer some suggestions it would be helpful. I posted in 24hoursupport.helpdesk, but that newsgroup seems overwhelmed so my post did not appear. I recommend finding the install discs for Matlab, Labview, Borland Compiler. And the license key information. You're going to need them. The user got them few years back and does not even remember where they are. He remembers, his neighbor using some data cable copied all his contents(data, programs) from old to new hard drive within few minutes. He did not need the install discs and they worked fine on his new hard drive. Copying disks is trivial. Copying programs is not trivial. Yes, to some extent, but you may be knowing of drive imaging where you can make a image of your current machine state, then load the image to other computers so that you don't have to install the OS, programs and other configurations. In lot of places, 1 image is created, then deployed on 999 computers. Naturally, they get software program licenses for the 1000 computers. Let's take as an example, Windows licensing. http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm Notice how Windows keeps track of the hardware it's running on. It knows, if you plug the disk into another computer, and try to boot from it. ******* You can clone disks with things like Macrium Reflect Free. Or, you can go to wdc.com or seagate.com, and get their cloning software. The cloning software works, as long as you have at least one Western Digital or Seagate branded disk, respectively. (There are other disk brands, but since WD and Seagate started buying up companies, there aren't that many options left.) Or, you can boot a Linux LiveCD, use GParted or even do a sector by sector copy with "dd" sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb In that example, the target disk (sdb) would be the same size or bigger, than the source disk (sda). I copy disks like that, all the time. If the partitions need to be resized later, that's what a free partition manager is for. Just plop the two disks in the same computer, and copy one disk to the other. No need for a "transfer cable". Open the side of the machine, pop in the foreign disk, go to work... Thanks Moving expensive programs around, expect trouble. Not exactly. There are ways you can make an image of your current machine state. Say, your hard disk crashes after 2 months, you can get another one and restore the image(which will have all programs you had on your old drive). Yes, licensing issues exist, but as long as you have a reasonable cause(like old hard drive failed), they can be resolved. The idea is to get the things(data, programs) moved from old computer to new one with minimum work. Cloning saves the work of reinstalling all programs. (Or, spend your days downloading hacked copies off the Internet. I'm sure your boss at work would be impressed by that.) Don't know what prompted that comment. Paul |
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