Moving files - critique this?

"Juan Kerr" wrote in message
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Is this a "normal" sort of time for such a data transfer or is there
something I need to tweak?






If you had WinXP I'd say you were in PIO mode. I don't know if this applies
in Vista.

Could you post the Maximum Transfer Rate for your HD, done with HD Tune?

http://www.hdtune.com/

On May 11, 12:02*am, "Tom Scales" wrote:

I have to ask, why would you have seven partitions on a 160GB drive? * I
have 3TB drives with one partition.-

c: = operating system only
d: = utilies (Eraser, O&O Defrag etc)
e: = entertainment (Winamp, Nero etc)
f: = office (Office 2007, Adobe Reader)
g: = games
h: = system drivers
i:= updates (any updates to software already on the machine)
j: = images (contains BootIT images of each partition)

Overkill probably but it's the way I've always set my systems
up........makes restoring the system by flashing an image a doddle.

And the system IS patched to SP1.

I have to ask, why would you have seven partitions on a 160GB drive? I
have 3TB drives with one partition.


I have 7 partitions on my first HD. 320 GB HD. Most partitions contain an OS
and interestingly I have 5 primary partitions on that HD. Not 4.

RnR wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 23:02:08 GMT, "Tom Scales"
wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Kerr ]
Posted At: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:54 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Moving files - critique this?
Subject: Moving files - critique this?

Vostro 1700 laptop.
Vista Business.
1.8 Core 2 Duo.
2GB ram.
160GB hard drive partitioned c: d: e: f: g: h: i: and j:

Attempting to move 2 files:

1 @ 4.02GB
1 @ 1.02 GB

from i: to j:

It takes approx 9 minutes during which the system is generally
unuseable; nothing else going on apart from the normal Vista
processes.

Is this a "normal" sort of time for such a data transfer or is there
something I need to tweak?

All observations gratefully accepted.
Seems about right to me, since you've likely made it worse by
partitioning, not better. It has to do a full seek from partition to
partition between every read and write.

I have to ask, why would you have seven partitions on a 160GB drive? I
have 3TB drives with one partition.


Tom, I agree that 7 partitions sounds a bit like overkill but it
really depends on what you will use them for. For example I have the
same size drive and I have 3 partitions but that may not work for you
or him.

It may not be what you think. My Dell E5520 (with Vista) came with an
add-on to read all the various memory cards. When the system came up, I
had C: 220GB(OS), D: 10GB (Recovery), E: (DVD) and F: - I: ("Removable
Disk").

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

Tom Scales wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Kerr ]
Posted At: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:54 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Moving files - critique this?
Subject: Moving files - critique this?

Vostro 1700 laptop.
Vista Business.
1.8 Core 2 Duo.
2GB ram.
160GB hard drive partitioned c: d: e: f: g: h: i: and j:

Attempting to move 2 files:

1 @ 4.02GB
1 @ 1.02 GB

from i: to j:

It takes approx 9 minutes during which the system is generally
unuseable; nothing else going on apart from the normal Vista
processes.

Is this a "normal" sort of time for such a data transfer or is there
something I need to tweak?

All observations gratefully accepted.

Seems about right to me, since you've likely made it worse by
partitioning, not better. It has to do a full seek from partition to
partition between every read and write.

I have to ask, why would you have seven partitions on a 160GB drive? I
have 3TB drives with one partition.


i was just about to post same thing lol
i do tend to like having 2 partitions on my boot drive
1 for windows (so i can nuke it and start fresh) and the rest for data

Is it better to copy a file from one drive to another and then delete
it? Or, is it better to move that file from one drive to another.

Extension to the question:

What if it's a folder of 1,000 files? Is it better to copy the folder
from one drive to another then delete it? Or, is it better to move it
from one drive to another?


Journey,

I can answer your first question. All tests were done on a single HD.


I copied a 4.5 GB file to another partition. And back again.
I moved a 4.5 GB file to another partition. And back again.
I copied a 4.5 GB file to another folder on the same partition.

The times for these procedures were the "same", to within a few seconds.

-----Original Message-----
From: journey ]
Posted At: Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:58 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Moving files - critique this?
Subject: Moving files - critique this?

On Sat, 10 May 2008 09:53:31 -0700 (PDT), Juan Kerr
wrote:

Vostro 1700 laptop.
Vista Business.
1.8 Core 2 Duo.
2GB ram.
160GB hard drive partitioned c: d: e: f: g: h: i: and j:

Attempting to move 2 files:

1 @ 4.02GB
1 @ 1.02 GB

from i: to j:

It takes approx 9 minutes during which the system is generally
unuseable; nothing else going on apart from the normal Vista
processes.

Is this a "normal" sort of time for such a data transfer or is there
something I need to tweak?

All observations gratefully accepted.

Question:

Is it better to copy a file from one drive to another and then delete
it? Or, is it better to move that file from one drive to another.

Extension to the question:

What if it's a folder of 1,000 files? Is it better to copy the folder
from one drive to another then delete it? Or, is it better to move it
from one drive to another?


Doesn't matter. Move is just a Copy and Delete, Windows just does it
for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hank Arnold (MVP) ]
Posted At: Sunday, May 11, 2008 5:25 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Moving files - critique this?
Subject: Moving files - critique this?

RnR wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 23:02:08 GMT, "Tom Scales"
wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Kerr ]
Posted At: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:54 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: Moving files - critique this?
Subject: Moving files - critique this?

Vostro 1700 laptop.
Vista Business.
1.8 Core 2 Duo.
2GB ram.
160GB hard drive partitioned c: d: e: f: g: h: i: and j:

Attempting to move 2 files:

1 @ 4.02GB
1 @ 1.02 GB

from i: to j:

It takes approx 9 minutes during which the system is generally
unuseable; nothing else going on apart from the normal Vista
processes.

Is this a "normal" sort of time for such a data transfer or is
there
something I need to tweak?

All observations gratefully accepted.
Seems about right to me, since you've likely made it worse by
partitioning, not better. It has to do a full seek from partition
to
partition between every read and write.

I have to ask, why would you have seven partitions on a 160GB
drive?
I
have 3TB drives with one partition.


Tom, I agree that 7 partitions sounds a bit like overkill but it
really depends on what you will use them for. For example I have
the
same size drive and I have 3 partitions but that may not work for
you
or him.

It may not be what you think. My Dell E5520 (with Vista) came with an
add-on to read all the various memory cards. When the system came up,
I
had C: 220GB(OS), D: 10GB (Recovery), E: (DVD) and F: - I: ("Removable
Disk").

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

He clarified that it was all partitions on the 160GB drive. To each his
own .

Lots of the partitions were partitions I have on my server, not my local
machine, so I'm not that different, other than location.