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is this a cpu or mobo problem?
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i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8 prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs. w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be???? thanx mucho system specs: asrock p4s55fx mobo p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache radeon 9200le video chaintechav710sound |
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Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly. If
it does, you have a motherboard problem. Norm "jon" wrote in message news:UEaWc.127121$sh.25884@fed1read06... hi- i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8 prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs. w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be???? thanx mucho system specs: asrock p4s55fx mobo p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache radeon 9200le video chaintechav710sound |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:33:42 +0000, Norm Dresner wrote:
Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly. If it does, you have a motherboard problem. Bad power supply units can also cause a whole bunch of boot up weirdness. Cheers Anton |
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it's a prescott-won't i have to flash the bios, and have a board
designated to handle the prescott chip? Norm Dresner wrote: Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly. If it does, you have a motherboard problem. Norm "jon" wrote in message news:UEaWc.127121$sh.25884@fed1read06... hi- i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8 prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs. w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be???? thanx mucho system specs: asrock p4s55fx mobo p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache radeon 9200le video chaintechav710sound |
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do you know of a test to isolate the problem to the power supply?
AD. wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:33:42 +0000, Norm Dresner wrote: Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly. If it does, you have a motherboard problem. Bad power supply units can also cause a whole bunch of boot up weirdness. Cheers Anton |
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Yes, You'll have to have a suitable computer. But you'd said that you'd
already built several so I assumed that one would be available to test with. Norm "jon" wrote in message news:FwhWc.127451$sh.35155@fed1read06... it's a prescott-won't i have to flash the bios, and have a board designated to handle the prescott chip? Norm Dresner wrote: Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly. If it does, you have a motherboard problem. Norm "jon" wrote in message news:UEaWc.127121$sh.25884@fed1read06... hi- i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8 prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs. w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be???? thanx mucho system specs: asrock p4s55fx mobo p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache radeon 9200le video chaintechav710sound |
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yeah-unfortunately this is my first prescott chip-maybe the last. i'll
have to look at some spec sheets. thanx alot! Norm Dresner wrote: Yes, You'll have to have a suitable computer. But you'd said that you'd already built several so I assumed that one would be available to test with. Norm "jon" wrote in message news:FwhWc.127451$sh.35155@fed1read06... it's a prescott-won't i have to flash the bios, and have a board designated to handle the prescott chip? Norm Dresner wrote: Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly. If it does, you have a motherboard problem. Norm "jon" wrote in message news:UEaWc.127121$sh.25884@fed1read06... hi- i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8 prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs. w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be???? thanx mucho system specs: asrock p4s55fx mobo p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache radeon 9200le video chaintechav710sound |
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Norm Dresner wrote:
Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly. not always true. i had a faulty FPU on my first IDT Winchip-2. The FPU would work, but crap out if stressed for a few hours. I returned the chip for another winchip-2 and it worked 100-percent. If it does, you have a motherboard problem. most likely - or the power supply. Norm -- http://baltimorechronicle.com/041704reTreason.shtml http://www.truthinaction.net/iraq/illegaljayne.htm As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air -- however slight -lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75) "It shows us that there were senior people in the Bush administration who were seriously contemplating the use of torture, and trying to figure out whether there were any legal loopholes that might allow them to commit criminal acts, They seem to be putting forward a theory that the president in wartime can essentially do what he wants regardless of what the law may say," Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch - commenting upon Defense Department Lawyer Will Dunham's 56-page legalization of torture memo. If you add all of those up, you should have a conservative rebellion against the giant corporation in the White House masquerading as a human being named George W. Bush. Just as progressives have been abandoned by the corporate Democrats and told, "You got nowhere to go other than to stay home or vote for the Democrats", this is the fate of the authentic conservatives in the Republican Party. Ralph Nader - June 2004 - The American Conservative Magazine "But I believe in torture and I will torture you." -An American soldier shares the joys of Democracy with an Iraqi prisoner. "My mother praises me for fighting the Americans. If we are killed, our wives and mothers will rejoice that we died defending the freedom of our country. -Iraqi Mahdi fighter "We were bleeding from 3 a.m. until sunrise, soon American soldiers came. One of them kicked me to see if I was alive. I pretended I was dead so he wouldn't kill me. The soldier was laughing, when Yousef cried, the soldier said: "'No, stop," -Shihab, survivor of USSA bombing of Iraqi wedding. "the absolute convergence of the neoconservatives with the Christian Zionists and the pro-Israel lobby, driving U.S. Mideast policy." -Don Wagner, an evangelical South Carolina minister "Bush, in Austin, criticized President Clinton's administration for the Kosovo military action.'Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,' Bush said." Houston Chronicle 4/9/99 "Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their country and trying to destabilize their country." Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004 "The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized to deal with this?'" - Paul Bremer, speaking to a McCormick Tribune Foundation conference on terrorism in Wheaton, Ill. on Feb. 26, 2001. "On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to use his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hussein's regime the "aim of American foreign policy" and to use military action because "diplomacy is failing." Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they would "offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor." Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Richard L. Armitage, Jeffrey Bergner, Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, Peter W. Rodman, William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. Four years before 9/11, the neocons had Baghdad on their minds." -philip (usenet) "I had better things to do in the 60s than fight in Vietnam," -Richard Cheney, Kerry critic. "I hope they will understand that in order for this government to get up and running - to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given back, if I can put it that way, or limited by them, It's sovereignty but [some] of that sovereignty they are going to allow us to exercise on their behalf and with their permission." - Powell 4/27/04 "We're trying to explain how things are going, and they are going as they are going," he said, adding: "Some things are going well and some things obviously are not going well. You're going to have good days and bad days." On the road to democracy, this "is one moment, and there will be other moments. And there will be good moments and there will be less good moments." - Rumsfeld 4/6/04 "I also have this belief, strong belief, that freedom is not this country's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty's gift to every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on the face of the Earth, we have an obligation to help the spread of freedom." ~ Bush the Crusader RUSSERT: Are you prepared to lose? BUSH: No, I'm not going to lose. RUSSERT: If you did, what would you do? BUSH: Well, I don't plan on losing. I've got a vision for what I want to do for the country. See, I know exactly where I want to lead.................And we got changing times here in America, too., 2/8/04 "And that's very important for, I think, the people to understand where I'm coming from, to know that this is a dangerous world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with war on my mind. - pResident of the United State of America, 2/8/04 "Let's talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." - Vice President Dick Cheney, on "Meet the Press", 3/16/03 "I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the Iraqis had nuclear weapons." - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, 6/24/03 "I think in this case international law stood in the way of doing the right thing (invading Iraq)." - Richard Perle "He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbours." - Colin Powell February 24 2001 "We have been successful for the last ten years in keeping him from developing those weapons and we will continue to be successful." "He threatens not the United States." "But I also thought that we had pretty much removed his stings and frankly for ten years we really have." 'But what is interesting is that with the regime that has been in place for the past ten years, I think a pretty good job has been done of keeping him from breaking out and suddenly showing up one day and saying "look what I got." He hasn't been able to do that.' - Colin Powell February 26 2001 |
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jon wrote:
hi- i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8 prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs. w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be???? thanx mucho system specs: asrock p4s55fx mobo p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache radeon 9200le video chaintechav710sound buy another Power Supply - Prescotts take alot of power - and you are probably running underpowered. I lived with a faulty power supply for two yrs!!!!!!!!! - thinking they only "blew" as they have eventually done on me. I didn't know you could have a power supply that "kinda worked" for yrs! anyway - I replaced my power supply with another of the same rating and my unstable POS locking up every night, BSOD, VIA-based buggy board..............is now STABLE! 30-bucks, give it a try. -- http://baltimorechronicle.com/041704reTreason.shtml http://www.truthinaction.net/iraq/illegaljayne.htm As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air -- however slight -lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75) "It shows us that there were senior people in the Bush administration who were seriously contemplating the use of torture, and trying to figure out whether there were any legal loopholes that might allow them to commit criminal acts, They seem to be putting forward a theory that the president in wartime can essentially do what he wants regardless of what the law may say," Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch - commenting upon Defense Department Lawyer Will Dunham's 56-page legalization of torture memo. If you add all of those up, you should have a conservative rebellion against the giant corporation in the White House masquerading as a human being named George W. Bush. Just as progressives have been abandoned by the corporate Democrats and told, "You got nowhere to go other than to stay home or vote for the Democrats", this is the fate of the authentic conservatives in the Republican Party. Ralph Nader - June 2004 - The American Conservative Magazine "But I believe in torture and I will torture you." -An American soldier shares the joys of Democracy with an Iraqi prisoner. "My mother praises me for fighting the Americans. If we are killed, our wives and mothers will rejoice that we died defending the freedom of our country. -Iraqi Mahdi fighter "We were bleeding from 3 a.m. until sunrise, soon American soldiers came. One of them kicked me to see if I was alive. I pretended I was dead so he wouldn't kill me. The soldier was laughing, when Yousef cried, the soldier said: "'No, stop," -Shihab, survivor of USSA bombing of Iraqi wedding. "the absolute convergence of the neoconservatives with the Christian Zionists and the pro-Israel lobby, driving U.S. Mideast policy." -Don Wagner, an evangelical South Carolina minister "Bush, in Austin, criticized President Clinton's administration for the Kosovo military action.'Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,' Bush said." Houston Chronicle 4/9/99 "Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their country and trying to destabilize their country." Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004 "The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized to deal with this?'" - Paul Bremer, speaking to a McCormick Tribune Foundation conference on terrorism in Wheaton, Ill. on Feb. 26, 2001. "On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to use his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hussein's regime the "aim of American foreign policy" and to use military action because "diplomacy is failing." Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they would "offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor." Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Richard L. Armitage, Jeffrey Bergner, Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, Peter W. Rodman, William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. Four years before 9/11, the neocons had Baghdad on their minds." -philip (usenet) "I had better things to do in the 60s than fight in Vietnam," -Richard Cheney, Kerry critic. "I hope they will understand that in order for this government to get up and running - to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given back, if I can put it that way, or limited by them, It's sovereignty but [some] of that sovereignty they are going to allow us to exercise on their behalf and with their permission." - Powell 4/27/04 "We're trying to explain how things are going, and they are going as they are going," he said, adding: "Some things are going well and some things obviously are not going well. You're going to have good days and bad days." On the road to democracy, this "is one moment, and there will be other moments. And there will be good moments and there will be less good moments." - Rumsfeld 4/6/04 "I also have this belief, strong belief, that freedom is not this country's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty's gift to every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on the face of the Earth, we have an obligation to help the spread of freedom." ~ Bush the Crusader RUSSERT: Are you prepared to lose? BUSH: No, I'm not going to lose. RUSSERT: If you did, what would you do? BUSH: Well, I don't plan on losing. I've got a vision for what I want to do for the country. See, I know exactly where I want to lead.................And we got changing times here in America, too., 2/8/04 "And that's very important for, I think, the people to understand where I'm coming from, to know that this is a dangerous world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with war on my mind. - pResident of the United State of America, 2/8/04 "Let's talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." - Vice President Dick Cheney, on "Meet the Press", 3/16/03 "I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the Iraqis had nuclear weapons." - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, 6/24/03 "I think in this case international law stood in the way of doing the right thing (invading Iraq)." - Richard Perle "He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbours." - Colin Powell February 24 2001 "We have been successful for the last ten years in keeping him from developing those weapons and we will continue to be successful." "He threatens not the United States." "But I also thought that we had pretty much removed his stings and frankly for ten years we really have." 'But what is interesting is that with the regime that has been in place for the past ten years, I think a pretty good job has been done of keeping him from breaking out and suddenly showing up one day and saying "look what I got." He hasn't been able to do that.' - Colin Powell February 26 2001 |
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AD. wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:33:42 +0000, Norm Dresner wrote: Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly. If it does, you have a motherboard problem. Bad power supply units can also cause a whole bunch of boot up weirdness. Cheers Anton YES! -- http://baltimorechronicle.com/041704reTreason.shtml http://www.truthinaction.net/iraq/illegaljayne.htm As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air -- however slight -lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75) "It shows us that there were senior people in the Bush administration who were seriously contemplating the use of torture, and trying to figure out whether there were any legal loopholes that might allow them to commit criminal acts, They seem to be putting forward a theory that the president in wartime can essentially do what he wants regardless of what the law may say," Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch - commenting upon Defense Department Lawyer Will Dunham's 56-page legalization of torture memo. If you add all of those up, you should have a conservative rebellion against the giant corporation in the White House masquerading as a human being named George W. Bush. Just as progressives have been abandoned by the corporate Democrats and told, "You got nowhere to go other than to stay home or vote for the Democrats", this is the fate of the authentic conservatives in the Republican Party. Ralph Nader - June 2004 - The American Conservative Magazine "But I believe in torture and I will torture you." -An American soldier shares the joys of Democracy with an Iraqi prisoner. "My mother praises me for fighting the Americans. If we are killed, our wives and mothers will rejoice that we died defending the freedom of our country. -Iraqi Mahdi fighter "We were bleeding from 3 a.m. until sunrise, soon American soldiers came. One of them kicked me to see if I was alive. I pretended I was dead so he wouldn't kill me. The soldier was laughing, when Yousef cried, the soldier said: "'No, stop," -Shihab, survivor of USSA bombing of Iraqi wedding. "the absolute convergence of the neoconservatives with the Christian Zionists and the pro-Israel lobby, driving U.S. Mideast policy." -Don Wagner, an evangelical South Carolina minister "Bush, in Austin, criticized President Clinton's administration for the Kosovo military action.'Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is,' Bush said." Houston Chronicle 4/9/99 "Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their country and trying to destabilize their country." Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004 "The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized to deal with this?'" - Paul Bremer, speaking to a McCormick Tribune Foundation conference on terrorism in Wheaton, Ill. on Feb. 26, 2001. "On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to use his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hussein's regime the "aim of American foreign policy" and to use military action because "diplomacy is failing." Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they would "offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor." Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Richard L. Armitage, Jeffrey Bergner, Paula Dobriansky, Francis Fukuyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, Peter W. Rodman, William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. Four years before 9/11, the neocons had Baghdad on their minds." -philip (usenet) "I had better things to do in the 60s than fight in Vietnam," -Richard Cheney, Kerry critic. "I hope they will understand that in order for this government to get up and running - to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given back, if I can put it that way, or limited by them, It's sovereignty but [some] of that sovereignty they are going to allow us to exercise on their behalf and with their permission." - Powell 4/27/04 "We're trying to explain how things are going, and they are going as they are going," he said, adding: "Some things are going well and some things obviously are not going well. You're going to have good days and bad days." On the road to democracy, this "is one moment, and there will be other moments. And there will be good moments and there will be less good moments." - Rumsfeld 4/6/04 "I also have this belief, strong belief, that freedom is not this country's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty's gift to every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on the face of the Earth, we have an obligation to help the spread of freedom." ~ Bush the Crusader RUSSERT: Are you prepared to lose? BUSH: No, I'm not going to lose. RUSSERT: If you did, what would you do? BUSH: Well, I don't plan on losing. I've got a vision for what I want to do for the country. See, I know exactly where I want to lead.................And we got changing times here in America, too., 2/8/04 "And that's very important for, I think, the people to understand where I'm coming from, to know that this is a dangerous world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with war on my mind. - pResident of the United State of America, 2/8/04 "Let's talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." - Vice President Dick Cheney, on "Meet the Press", 3/16/03 "I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the Iraqis had nuclear weapons." - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, 6/24/03 "I think in this case international law stood in the way of doing the right thing (invading Iraq)." - Richard Perle "He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbours." - Colin Powell February 24 2001 "We have been successful for the last ten years in keeping him from developing those weapons and we will continue to be successful." "He threatens not the United States." "But I also thought that we had pretty much removed his stings and frankly for ten years we really have." 'But what is interesting is that with the regime that has been in place for the past ten years, I think a pretty good job has been done of keeping him from breaking out and suddenly showing up one day and saying "look what I got." He hasn't been able to do that.' - Colin Powell February 26 2001 |
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