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Looking for Motherboard (Core 2 Ready, SATA-II RAID-5 & Graphics)
Anyone know of this mix on a single board?
- Core 2 Ready - SATA-II (SATA-300) - RAID-5 - Graphics on-board Any help appreciated. I'm struggling to find such a beast. Thanks, Steve |
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Looking for Motherboard (Core 2 Ready, SATA-II RAID-5 & Graphics)
If you didn't want on-board graphics I would suggest Intel
D975xbx....John Steve Baker wrote: Anyone know of this mix on a single board? - Core 2 Ready - SATA-II (SATA-300) - RAID-5 - Graphics on-board Any help appreciated. I'm struggling to find such a beast. Thanks, Steve |
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Looking for Motherboard (Core 2 Ready, SATA-II RAID-5 & Graphics)
Thanks, but it's the combination I'm looking for. There are loads without
the grpahics and loads of lower-spec board with graphics but no RAID. Maybe someone who knows the make-up of the chipsets can actually tell me what's possible. Perhaps I'm looking for the currently impossible, though I thought the Intel 965 chipset could support all this stuff. Karl "John Smith" wrote in message ... If you didn't want on-board graphics I would suggest Intel D975xbx....John Steve Baker wrote: Anyone know of this mix on a single board? - Core 2 Ready - SATA-II (SATA-300) - RAID-5 - Graphics on-board Any help appreciated. I'm struggling to find such a beast. Thanks, Steve |
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Looking for Motherboard (Core 2 Ready, SATA-II RAID-5 & Graphics)
"Steve Baker" wrote in message ... Anyone know of this mix on a single board? - Core 2 Ready - SATA-II (SATA-300) - RAID-5 - Graphics on-board Any help appreciated. I'm struggling to find such a beast. Thanks, Steve Take a look a this one,might be what you need. http://www.directron.com/d946gzissl.html |
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Looking for Motherboard (Core 2 Ready, SATA-II RAID-5 & Graphics)
Thanks.
I don't THINK this one supports either RAID-5 or SATA-II, but the details aren't clear. Anyone know. I think the new Asus board (P5B-V DH Deluxe) is what I'm after, but I've no idea when it will be available and I can't find the manual for it anywhere to confirm functionality in detail, particularly around the Intel Matrix Storage, for the RAID-5 from the ICH8R chipset. Steve "Gojira" wrote in message news:I2rIg.2010$pX3.727@trnddc07... "Steve Baker" wrote in message ... Anyone know of this mix on a single board? - Core 2 Ready - SATA-II (SATA-300) - RAID-5 - Graphics on-board Any help appreciated. I'm struggling to find such a beast. Thanks, Steve Take a look a this one,might be what you need. http://www.directron.com/d946gzissl.html |
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Looking for Motherboard (Core 2 Ready, SATA-II RAID-5 & Graphics)
In article , "Steve Baker"
wrote: Thanks. I don't THINK this one supports either RAID-5 or SATA-II, but the details aren't clear. Anyone know. I think the new Asus board (P5B-V DH Deluxe) is what I'm after, but I've no idea when it will be available and I can't find the manual for it anywhere to confirm functionality in detail, particularly around the Intel Matrix Storage, for the RAID-5 from the ICH8R chipset. Steve This is the master list for Asus. There is a P5B-V in the list but no P5B-V DH (yet). http://www.asus.com/products2.aspx?l1=3&l2=-1 If you click the enlargement button, you can see a picture of the P5B-V motherboard: http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?m...l2=11&l 3=332 There is a picture of the P5B-V DH here. Note that tradeshow pictures of motherboards are extremely unreliable, and I've seen pictures of boards that don't even resemble the final retail product. But in this case, the P5B-V DH bears a close enough resemblance to the P5B-V, to trust that this is what the final board will look like. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=102246 http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/ASUS%...%202/965-1.JPG If you compare the P5B-V to the P5B-V DH, you'll notice a couple of interesting things. I had heard that the ICH8 was supposed to have six SATA2 ports. If you download the Intel datasheet for ICH8, there are four different models of the ICH8. Three versions of the ICH8 have six ports, while the "base" ICH8 has only four. Both P5B-V boards seem to be using the base ICH8, since only four connectors are soldered into the six possible locations. (PDF page 49 contains the table of ICH8 models) http://developer.intel.com/design/ch...hts/313056.htm Now, the P5B-V has a familiar twist on it as well. There is an IC site next to the Southbridge, for a fairly large chip. Notice on the P5B-V DH, there are only three SATA connectors on the Southbridge, and the large chip next to the Southbridge is populated. That means the board has a SIL4723 two port RAID chip connected to the Southbridge. And that means the P5B-V DH Southbridge situation looks like this: Hub_bus | | Southbridge "Base" ICH8 has four SATA2 ports. | | | \ The picture of the P5B-V DH suggests Sata Sata Sata \ one port is sacrificed to connect 1 3 4 \ the SATA connected hardware RAID Silicon controller SIL4723. The SIL4723 is Image limited to about 110MB/sec transfer 4723 rate (of 300MB/sec available on the | | connection to the Southbridge). Sata Sata RAID RAID The Intel datasheet table on PDF page 49 says Matrix RAID is not supported on the "base" ICH8. AFAIK, chips like this are soft raid, and I don't see a reason why a RAID5 could not be supported, unless this is just a marketing scheme. I suggest waiting for the downloadable manual, to see what claims are in there in terms of whether RAID modes are supported or not. I notice there is no mention of RAID modes on the P5B-V web page, which suggests in fact what the Intel datasheet claims is true. In that case, the only way to get RAID5 on the Southbridge, would be via the Windows RAID5 hack (as shown on Tomshardware). According to this blurb, there is yet another version - the "P5B-V DH DELUXE/HDMI". The table here says that board uses ICH8R, which would have six SATA2 ports and officially supports Matrix RAID. I suppose being "DELUXE" and all, they spent the extra $2 and got the ICH8R with six SATA2 ports. http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=3932 While the picture of the P5B-V DH DELUXE/HDMI on that page is pretty tiny, it looks like you get 5 ports on the Southbridge, plus that SIL4723 chip again. The two orange ports are supported by the SIL4723. Three red SATA and two black SATA ports are connected to the Southbridge. So you could have RAID5 with up to five drives, plus a sixth if you use whatever is connected to the SIL4723 as well. Have fun waiting :-( I hope the performance level of this Southbridge RAID5 is worth all the fuss. Designs without cache DIMM and XOR chip, tend to be on the mediocre side. Paul "Gojira" wrote in message news:I2rIg.2010$pX3.727@trnddc07... "Steve Baker" wrote in message ... Anyone know of this mix on a single board? - Core 2 Ready - SATA-II (SATA-300) - RAID-5 - Graphics on-board Any help appreciated. I'm struggling to find such a beast. Thanks, Steve Take a look a this one,might be what you need. http://www.directron.com/d946gzissl.html |
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Looking for Motherboard (Core 2 Ready, SATA-II RAID-5 & Graphics)
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:17:41 +0100, "Steve Baker"
wrote: Thanks. I don't THINK this one supports either RAID-5 or SATA-II, but the details aren't clear. Anyone know. I think the new Asus board (P5B-V DH Deluxe) is what I'm after, but I've no idea when it will be available and I can't find the manual for it anywhere to confirm functionality in detail, particularly around the Intel Matrix Storage, for the RAID-5 from the ICH8R chipset. Steve IMO, if you're after RAID5 it might be better not to rely on a motherboard integral controller, which will then require same controller again to salvange the data should the board fail. In other words, the odds of a motherboard failing seem far higher than a separate RAID card which can be moved with the array should the board fail. RAID1 is better for the board integral controller then, since any normal implementation of it should allow any members to be read separately from a generic controller. |
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Looking for Motherboard (Core 2 Ready, SATA-II RAID-5 & Graphics)
Thanks, all. Having looked around (and I've found some excellent MBs, just
not available yet - such as Asus P5B-V DH Deluxe, which really looks promising), I've decided to skip the on-board RAID and go with something H/W based. At the moment, I'm planning the RocketRaid 2310. Costs a bit, but should make it much easier in that it's all h/w based and can be accessed through the board BIOS and managed through applications. Thanks all for your comments - they've been invaluable. Steve "kony" wrote in message ... On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:17:41 +0100, "Steve Baker" wrote: Thanks. I don't THINK this one supports either RAID-5 or SATA-II, but the details aren't clear. Anyone know. I think the new Asus board (P5B-V DH Deluxe) is what I'm after, but I've no idea when it will be available and I can't find the manual for it anywhere to confirm functionality in detail, particularly around the Intel Matrix Storage, for the RAID-5 from the ICH8R chipset. Steve IMO, if you're after RAID5 it might be better not to rely on a motherboard integral controller, which will then require same controller again to salvange the data should the board fail. In other words, the odds of a motherboard failing seem far higher than a separate RAID card which can be moved with the array should the board fail. RAID1 is better for the board integral controller then, since any normal implementation of it should allow any members to be read separately from a generic controller. |
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