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52.16 driver consider harmful
Installed 52.16 in an attempt to get AA working for Halo Trial.
After reboot, PC freezes up when NVIDIA taskbar icon is clicked on. Also dialog with message "Catastrophic Failure" presented when attempting to view GeForce configuration. I uninstall the driver and try installing again. This time, PC freezes up a few seconds after booting. Boot in safe mode, remove driver. Install old driver version (41.09). Driver *does not install*. No error given. After some experimentation, it seems the .inf file has an error "section missing" when used. The installer appears to silently discard this error. After some *hours*, it now appears that no driver can be installed. I'm pretty much out of ideas, so I'll be reverting to my Norton Ghost image. I'm *not* pleased. Installing the latest video driver should not **** my PC up, waste a day of my time and require me to revert to a backup. To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI. -- Callas |
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Many of us have installed the driver without any problems. You did not
mention which operating system you were using so if you are using Windows XP or Windows ME then try a system restore point prior to the problem in question. You can initialize a restore point from the safe mode. Generally speaking drivers do not cause this problem but rather a conflict with a program running in the background is to blame, ( which interfered with the installation of the driver). regards B "Callas" wrote in message ... Installed 52.16 in an attempt to get AA working for Halo Trial. After reboot, PC freezes up when NVIDIA taskbar icon is clicked on. Also dialog with message "Catastrophic Failure" presented when attempting to view GeForce configuration. I uninstall the driver and try installing again. This time, PC freezes up a few seconds after booting. Boot in safe mode, remove driver. Install old driver version (41.09). Driver *does not install*. No error given. After some experimentation, it seems the .inf file has an error "section missing" when used. The installer appears to silently discard this error. After some *hours*, it now appears that no driver can be installed. I'm pretty much out of ideas, so I'll be reverting to my Norton Ghost image. I'm *not* pleased. Installing the latest video driver should not **** my PC up, waste a day of my time and require me to revert to a backup. To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI. -- Callas |
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Callas wrote:
wrote: snip Generally speaking drivers do not cause this problem but rather a conflict with a program running in the background is to blame, ( which interfered with the installation of the driver). I find this hard to believe. Can you provide a reference to where this has been proved? You honestly need a reference? Uhhhh, did you happen to notice the screen that appears when installing drivers (or just about any software ever written for windoze) that tells you to shut down all other running programs before continuing your install??! Did you even bother to turn off your virus scan as every single set of dets specifically directs you to with its own alert??! I wasn't wrong with my suggestion that you should hire a professional when you need to do any administration of your system. you are obviously incompetant, - - or maybe just stoned. How long have you been using windows? Like what? A month? |
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Takes me 15 min to ghost my 2GB Server 2003 system partition, 5 min to
restore it, from another hard drive in my system. Updating drivers can break things, nothing new here. If you'd backed up first you would have not had to worry about restoring from an old image and waste time on updates. I've been using ATI cards too, since the original EGA wonder, and I can tell you, they have their own share of issues. My last attempt was with an 8500 that simply refused to run in any dual-cpu system due to ATI's poor drivers. Sure, I may try them again, but only because they are the only ones that have anything like the all-in-wonder cards, not because I think their drivers are somehow better. Talk to anyone who's using professional OpenGL apps, and they have a lot of issues with the consumer vid cards from both Nvidia and ATI for example. Callas wrote in : wrote: Many of us have installed the driver without any problems. You did not mention which operating system you were using so if you are using Windows XP or Windows ME then try a system restore point prior to the problem in question. You can initialize a restore point from the safe mode. Windows 2000. After five hours of trying to fix it, I restored from my current norton ghost image. It took about an hour to do, plus an hour to bring the installation entirely up to date. Generally speaking drivers do not cause this problem but rather a conflict with a program running in the background is to blame, ( which interfered with the installation of the driver). I find this hard to believe. Can you provide a reference to where this has been proved? -- Callas |
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Callas wrote:
Installed 52.16 in an attempt to get AA working for Halo Trial. After reboot, PC freezes up when NVIDIA taskbar icon is clicked on. Also dialog with message "Catastrophic Failure" presented when attempting to view GeForce configuration. I uninstall the driver and try installing again. This time, PC freezes up a few seconds after booting. Boot in safe mode, remove driver. Install old driver version (41.09). Driver *does not install*. No error given. After some experimentation, it seems the .inf file has an error "section missing" when used. The installer appears to silently discard this error. After some *hours*, it now appears that no driver can be installed. I'm pretty much out of ideas, so I'll be reverting to my Norton Ghost image. I'm *not* pleased. Installing the latest video driver should not **** my PC up, waste a day of my time and require me to revert to a backup. To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI. LOL. Go read. Cat 3.5 and 3.8 have had their own issues. 3.8 is a big improvement over earlier Cats but there are people who have systems thet don't like 3.8 just like there are people who have systems that don't like 52.16 Dets. Why did you need to upgrade your driver, anyway? Was there a game you couldn't play with whatever driver it was that you were running before? Was there some system task that could not be accomplished while using the drivers that came with your card? If you are going to swap drivers, there can be consequences. That goes for video cards, audio cards, or any sort of system device, for that matter. If you are not satisfied when your system is already running OK, and you choose to change drivers or tweek settings, then you should be prepared to "waste a day" and occasionally "**** your PC up" and maybe even be forced to "revert to a backup". If you are not prepared to do that, hire a professional when you need to change devices or upgrade drivers or etc. Wanna be a geek? Seriously, do you want anyone in the world to beleive you are competant to do administration of your own system? If so, quit your whinging. If not, hire someone who is competant. |
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"i'm_tired" wrote in message news:VSVmb.28109$9E1.96764@attbi_s52... Callas wrote: Installed 52.16 in an attempt to get AA working for Halo Trial. After reboot, PC freezes up when NVIDIA taskbar icon is clicked on. Also dialog with message "Catastrophic Failure" presented when attempting to view GeForce configuration. I uninstall the driver and try installing again. This time, PC freezes up a few seconds after booting. Boot in safe mode, remove driver. Install old driver version (41.09). Driver *does not install*. No error given. After some experimentation, it seems the .inf file has an error "section missing" when used. The installer appears to silently discard this error. After some *hours*, it now appears that no driver can be installed. I'm pretty much out of ideas, so I'll be reverting to my Norton Ghost image. I'm *not* pleased. Installing the latest video driver should not **** my PC up, waste a day of my time and require me to revert to a backup. To make the point, my next video card purchase will be from ATI. snip Why did you need to upgrade your driver, anyway? Was there a game you couldn't play with whatever driver it was that you were running before? Was there some system task that could not be accomplished while using the drivers that came with your card? If you are going to swap drivers, there can be consequences. That goes for video cards, audio cards, or any sort of system device, for that matter. If you are not satisfied when your system is already running OK, and you choose to change drivers or tweek settings, then you should be prepared to "waste a day" and occasionally "**** your PC up" and maybe even be forced to "revert to a backup". If you are not prepared to do that, hire a professional when you need to change devices or upgrade drivers or etc. Wanna be a geek? Seriously, do you want anyone in the world to beleive you are competant to do administration of your own system? If so, quit your whinging. If not, hire someone who is competant. Often the new drivers bring enhanced operation. Many people say that the 52.16s did so. Many more of us have had many problems after installing them. I personally never had a problem just installing an Nvidia driver over another. With the ATI cards in other of my machines, youhad to wipe out anything that had to do with ATI before installing new drivers. I even did that with the 52.16s, and still had it go crazy on me, when playing Battlefield 1942. (this on a clean install of XP, coincidentally) Good Luck! BB |
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Billy_Bat wrote: [snip] Often the new drivers bring enhanced operation. Many people say that the 52.16s did so. Many more of us have had many problems after installing them. I personally never had a problem just installing an Nvidia driver over another. With the ATI cards in other of my machines, youhad to wipe out anything that had to do with ATI before installing new drivers. I even did that with the 52.16s, and still had it go crazy on me, when playing Battlefield 1942. (this on a clean install of XP, coincidentally) Good Luck! I'd say a valid conclusion we could draw is: "no drivers works on all machines in this world". I installed the 52.16 without any uninstallation done in advance (I usually don't do that anyway). So far everything runs fine. |
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:10:29 GMT, "i'm_tired"
wrote: Callas wrote: Installed 52.16 in an attempt to get AA working for Halo Trial. LOL. Go read. Cat 3.5 and 3.8 have had their own issues. 3.8 is a big improvement over earlier Cats but there are people who have systems thet don't like 3.8 just like there are people who have systems that don't like 52.16 Dets. Why did you need to upgrade your driver, anyway? Was there a game you couldn't play with whatever driver it was that you were running before? Was there some system task that could not be accomplished while using the drivers that came with your card? Er... games come out that require drive patches and as shown, the 52.xx drivers are A LOT faster than the 4x.xx drivers for fx cards. *I* had to install the 52.16 drivers to get HALO to work correctly to display the SNIPER SCOPE... otherwise, it DOES NOT WORK. But the 52.16 drivers are **** in my book. 1 - UT plays a bit worse, its not as SMOOTH as the previous 30.82 drivers *I* was using before. The 45.xx drivers I tired made some games CRASH OUT. 2 - The visual look in UT (classic) looks worse than before. 3 - My Windows Desktop NOW has visual glitches after playing a game such as HALO - requireing a REBOOT to fix. Many screen areas are garbeled... 52.16 drivers... I'm not impressed. These are supposed to be WHQL drivers?! Bull ****. Which also PROVES how much **** M$ is full of when it comes to "Signed" drivers. -- Remember when real men used Real computers!? When 512K of video RAM was a lot! Death to Palladium & WPA!! |
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