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Wanted: 17" WUXGA display on notebook that is not an entertainment center



 
 
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Old January 2nd 05, 02:05 AM
David Ellis
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Default Wanted: 17" WUXGA display on notebook that is not an entertainment center

Anyone know if there is such a notebook computer?

I've looked, via reviews on the web, at HP zd7000 and zd8000 and the
Dell 9200.

I want the 17" 1680x1050 wide-screen to run Photoshop. No interest in
TV, nor movie making, nor in paying for such hardware and software. Do
need two gigs of RAM and a 100 gig hard drive, DVD/CD burner, Ethernet
jack, some USB2 ports and a Firewire port, a cardbus slot and WinXP
Pro.

Any suggestion is welcome.

--David
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Old January 2nd 05, 11:01 AM
Tom Scales
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For Photoshop, I'd look at the 1600x1200 displays. Why would you want a
wide display. You LOSE resolution.

Tom
"David Ellis" wrote in message
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Anyone know if there is such a notebook computer?

I've looked, via reviews on the web, at HP zd7000 and zd8000 and the
Dell 9200.

I want the 17" 1680x1050 wide-screen to run Photoshop. No interest in
TV, nor movie making, nor in paying for such hardware and software. Do
need two gigs of RAM and a 100 gig hard drive, DVD/CD burner, Ethernet
jack, some USB2 ports and a Firewire port, a cardbus slot and WinXP
Pro.

Any suggestion is welcome.

--David



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Old January 2nd 05, 12:45 PM
HH
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My question exactly. Why a 16:9 aspect ratio for Photoshop? Makes no sense.
HH

"Tom Scales" wrote in message
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For Photoshop, I'd look at the 1600x1200 displays. Why would you want a
wide display. You LOSE resolution.

Tom
"David Ellis" wrote in message
...
Anyone know if there is such a notebook computer?

I've looked, via reviews on the web, at HP zd7000 and zd8000 and the
Dell 9200.

I want the 17" 1680x1050 wide-screen to run Photoshop. No interest in
TV, nor movie making, nor in paying for such hardware and software. Do
need two gigs of RAM and a 100 gig hard drive, DVD/CD burner, Ethernet
jack, some USB2 ports and a Firewire port, a cardbus slot and WinXP
Pro.

Any suggestion is welcome.

--David






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Old January 2nd 05, 02:44 PM
David Ellis
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Thanks for the heads up on this topic, but I don't understand the
resolution loss. Is "resolution" something other than total pixels?
1600*1200=1,920,000
1920*1200=2,304,000
--David

My question exactly. Why a 16:9 aspect ratio for Photoshop? Makes no sense.
HH

"Tom Scales" wrote in message
.. .
For Photoshop, I'd look at the 1600x1200 displays. Why would you want a
wide display. You LOSE resolution.

Tom
"David Ellis" wrote in message
...
Anyone know if there is such a notebook computer?

I've looked, via reviews on the web, at HP zd7000 and zd8000 and the
Dell 9200.

I want the 17" 1680x1050 wide-screen to run Photoshop. No interest in
TV, nor movie making, nor in paying for such hardware and software. Do
need two gigs of RAM and a 100 gig hard drive, DVD/CD burner, Ethernet
jack, some USB2 ports and a Firewire port, a cardbus slot and WinXP
Pro.

Any suggestion is welcome.

--David






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Old January 2nd 05, 06:03 PM
Quaoar
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David Ellis wrote:
Thanks for the heads up on this topic, but I don't understand the
resolution loss. Is "resolution" something other than total pixels?
1600*1200=1,920,000
1920*1200=2,304,000
--David

My question exactly. Why a 16:9 aspect ratio for Photoshop? Makes no
sense. HH

"Tom Scales" wrote in message
...
For Photoshop, I'd look at the 1600x1200 displays. Why would you
want a wide display. You LOSE resolution.

Tom
"David Ellis" wrote in message
...
Anyone know if there is such a notebook computer?

I've looked, via reviews on the web, at HP zd7000 and zd8000 and
the Dell 9200.

I want the 17" 1680x1050 wide-screen to run Photoshop. No interest
in TV, nor movie making, nor in paying for such hardware and
software. Do need two gigs of RAM and a 100 gig hard drive, DVD/CD
burner, Ethernet jack, some USB2 ports and a Firewire port, a
cardbus slot and WinXP Pro.

Any suggestion is welcome.

--David


Widescreen is in the ratio 16 wide by 9 high. Standard is 4 wide by 3
high. The screen size is measured across the diagonal and the ratio is
18.35 for widescreen and 5.0 for standard. So you have a choice between
a 15 inch widescreen or a 15 inch standard screen where these are
diagonal dimensions. The widescreen height will be 15/18.35 x 9 = 7.36
inches; the width will be 15/18.35 x 16 = 13.08 inches. The standard
screen will be 15/5 x 3 = 9 inches; the width will be 15/5 x 4 = 12
inches.

Standard 15 inch screen h = 9, w = 12 ; UXGA res = 1600 x 1200
Widescreen 15 inch h = 7.36 w = 13.08. WUXGA res = 1920 x 1200

So the same size photo on a standard screen, compared to a widescreen
will have a physical ratio of 9/7.36 = 1.22 or almost 25% larger on a
standard screen of the same diagonal measurement as a widescreen.

The move to widescreen is only predicated on the cost of the screen: in
the 15.4 inch widescreen, 7 widesceens per sheet of LCD can be made
while only 4 standard 15 inch screens can be made. This is a huge
manuafacturing savings and is the reason that laptop prices are falling
dramatically.

Going back to the math, the 15 inch widescreen is actually the
dimensional equivalent of a standard screen 7.4 inches high, or 7.4/3 x
5 = 12.3 inches diagonally. There are laptops with 12 inch screens in
standard format; these are difficult for photo work as even a short
photo session will confirm.

Q



 




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