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Thanks for the post Timothy. I have just read some posts where people
could not even boot after 'upgrading' to F8! Perhaps we should spam Gigabyte for being such jerks. __________________________________________________ _________________________________________________ Gigabyte 8KNXP, P4 2.8C, Corsair TwinX1024-3200C2PT Cas 2-5-3-3 SiSoft Sandra 2003 Unbuffered ALU 2973MB/s, Int Buff 4909MB/s, Memtest86 2442 MB/s, Zalman CNPS 7000AlCu, WD Raptor, Radeon 8500LL, WinXP Pro Timothy Drouillard wrote: I have a GA-8KNXP I've been running with F6 for some time with everything working just fine. Then Gigabyte comes out with a new BIOS, F7, then shortly after, F8. Now I've been in the business more years than I care to admit, and have learned many many times, 'if it works, don't f_ck with it!' But nooooo, something posessed me to go ahead and try F7 and F8. Some people never learn. In my system I have 2 WD SATA Raptors in a RAID 0 array on the SII controller, and two Seagate 160gig SATA drives on the ICH5R controller. under both F7 and F8, I no longer have an option to boot to the SII Raid controller. Both RAID controllers are set 'enabled' in the BIOS and set to RAID, the POST sees the proper drives on the proper controllers and sees them as RAID 0 setups just fine. In the Boot order in the BIOS, the only HD options shown are for the Intel RAID controller and an add-in card. no sign of the SII RAID controller at all. tried all kinds of combinations to no avail. Went back to F6 and all is well again. "Stephen Williams" wrote in message ... "Dominic Phoon" wrote in message ... Anyone? I am still using F5, wondering if I should update. Thanks F8 seemed great at first. I installed it after being on F6 for ages. My setup is 2 SATA drives (no RAID) on the ICH5-R, a DVD-Combo and a DVD-RW on the Secondary IDE channel. The extra SATA and IDE controllers are disabled. It seems they had finally re-arranged the BIOS so you could boot from an ICH5R based SATA drive and still retail all standard IDE channels (like all other 865/875 boards already could). So I changed the sata channels from being Primary Master and Slave to Channel 2 and Channel 3 Masters, reset, went back in to the BIOS and there they were under Hard Drive Boot Order... and the machine booted fine. Then for some reason after i powered it off completely and turned it back on, the Intel RAID controller decided to enable itself, under Hard Drive Boot Order i now had 4 drives instead of 2 It went from Ch2 Master Seagate 80GB Ch3 Master Seagate 120GB Add in cards to Ch2 Master Seagate 80GB SCSI 0 Seagate 120GB Add in cards Ch3 Master Seagate 120GB SCSI 1 Seagate 80GB And the computer either would hang after checking the CD-ROMs for a boot disc, or it would blue screen before getting to the desktop. The type of failure depended on which was set to the first boot drive. Put the SATA drives back to Primary Master and Slave, but the Intel RAID controller kept coming up and now was complaining about incompatible hardware. Windows would blue screen before the desktop. Had to revert back to F6 which was in the backup BIOS, even then no USB devices worked in windows so i had to get a PS/2 keyboard out, remove all USB related things from the device manager, restart and let XP find them again, just to get my USB mouse and keyboard working. F8 now runs all BIOSes before you can get in to the main BIOS in order to pick up every possible boot drive. It's a good idea, but seems to me that it's full of bugs. They should just make it like other mobos, where you can choose from any device on the ICH5R or standard IDE channels, or SCSI and set the SCSI boot order to Silicon Image, ITE or add on card. Feels like i just wrote a novel! Steve |
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Thanks for posting.
I guess I'll stick to F5 ("if it ain't broken...") at least for now; I am waiting for the new set of Raptors 74gig to come. Then I might switch. BTW, in your opionion, which SATA controller should I use for RAID 0? The ICH5R or the SIL? I tried searching through the newsgroups, most reports say that the SIL controller is much faster, which is weird because I thought Intel designed the ICH5R to skip using the PCI bandwidth; thus making it much faster. Oh, have you tried the Intel App Accelerator Raid addition? It might boost some performance according to what I read. "Timothy Drouillard" wrote in message ... I have a GA-8KNXP I've been running with F6 for some time with everything working just fine. Then Gigabyte comes out with a new BIOS, F7, then shortly after, F8. Now I've been in the business more years than I care to admit, and have learned many many times, 'if it works, don't f_ck with it!' But nooooo, something posessed me to go ahead and try F7 and F8. Some people never learn. In my system I have 2 WD SATA Raptors in a RAID 0 array on the SII controller, and two Seagate 160gig SATA drives on the ICH5R controller. under both F7 and F8, I no longer have an option to boot to the SII Raid controller. Both RAID controllers are set 'enabled' in the BIOS and set to RAID, the POST sees the proper drives on the proper controllers and sees them as RAID 0 setups just fine. In the Boot order in the BIOS, the only HD options shown are for the Intel RAID controller and an add-in card. no sign of the SII RAID controller at all. tried all kinds of combinations to no avail. Went back to F6 and all is well again. "Stephen Williams" wrote in message ... "Dominic Phoon" wrote in message ... Anyone? I am still using F5, wondering if I should update. Thanks F8 seemed great at first. I installed it after being on F6 for ages. My setup is 2 SATA drives (no RAID) on the ICH5-R, a DVD-Combo and a DVD-RW on the Secondary IDE channel. The extra SATA and IDE controllers are disabled. It seems they had finally re-arranged the BIOS so you could boot from an ICH5R based SATA drive and still retail all standard IDE channels (like all other 865/875 boards already could). So I changed the sata channels from being Primary Master and Slave to Channel 2 and Channel 3 Masters, reset, went back in to the BIOS and there they were under Hard Drive Boot Order... and the machine booted fine. Then for some reason after i powered it off completely and turned it back on, the Intel RAID controller decided to enable itself, under Hard Drive Boot Order i now had 4 drives instead of 2 It went from Ch2 Master Seagate 80GB Ch3 Master Seagate 120GB Add in cards to Ch2 Master Seagate 80GB SCSI 0 Seagate 120GB Add in cards Ch3 Master Seagate 120GB SCSI 1 Seagate 80GB And the computer either would hang after checking the CD-ROMs for a boot disc, or it would blue screen before getting to the desktop. The type of failure depended on which was set to the first boot drive. Put the SATA drives back to Primary Master and Slave, but the Intel RAID controller kept coming up and now was complaining about incompatible hardware. Windows would blue screen before the desktop. Had to revert back to F6 which was in the backup BIOS, even then no USB devices worked in windows so i had to get a PS/2 keyboard out, remove all USB related things from the device manager, restart and let XP find them again, just to get my USB mouse and keyboard working. F8 now runs all BIOSes before you can get in to the main BIOS in order to pick up every possible boot drive. It's a good idea, but seems to me that it's full of bugs. They should just make it like other mobos, where you can choose from any device on the ICH5R or standard IDE channels, or SCSI and set the SCSI boot order to Silicon Image, ITE or add on card. Feels like i just wrote a novel! Steve |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:37:42 -0500, "Timothy Drouillard"
wrote: I have a GA-8KNXP I've been running with F6 for some time with everything working just fine. Then Gigabyte comes out with a new BIOS, F7, then shortly after, F8. Now I've been in the business more years than I care to admit, and have learned many many times, 'if it works, don't f_ck with it!' But nooooo, something posessed me to go ahead and try F7 and F8. Some people never learn. In my system I have 2 WD SATA Raptors in a RAID 0 array on the SII controller, and two Seagate 160gig SATA drives on the ICH5R controller. under both F7 and F8, I no longer have an option to boot to the SII Raid controller. Both RAID controllers are set 'enabled' in the BIOS and set to RAID, the POST sees the proper drives on the proper controllers and sees them as RAID 0 setups just fine. In the Boot order in the BIOS, the only HD options shown are for the Intel RAID controller and an add-in card. no sign of the SII RAID controller at all. tried all kinds of combinations to no avail. Went back to F6 and all is well again. Same experience, a little bit different : 1 WD SATA raptor on Intel 1 DVD on 2nd Standard IDE 1 Maxtor on GigaRaid. 10 Change F6 to F8, reboot and ..... 20 an Error Message on bios Intel controler : Internal Error (9) ISM_HARDWARE_UNSUPPORTED. 30 2 seconds of XP boot image and ..... reboot.... 40 GOTO 10 I don't know what means this message... went back to F6 ( not easy without a floppy drive ..... )and all is well again. So If you don't need it, don't do it ( BIOS upgrade rule number1 ) I'm quit sure I will updrade to F10 ( Human default number 1 in Bios updrade environnement ) :-) |
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I am not running any on-board RAID controllers, though I do have a Promise
SX4000 IDE RAID PCI board. My PC boots with F8, runs Windows XP Pro off the Promise SX4000, it just that when I try to get into the BIOS, the keyboard freezes up. Re-flashing back to F7b makes everything work as expected, including getting into the BIOS and making changes. I am in email communications with Gigabyte in Taiwan on my F8 issues. It's slow going (10 days turn-around) and as soon as they give me a solution, I'll share it with the NG. Besides this on-going debacle with BIOSes, I find the GA-8KNXP to be pretty useful motherboard overall. Once we get beyond the BIOSes issues... "bdh" wrote in message ... Are running raid? or just ide controller "macrog" wrote in message ... It looks good to me. Finally lets me set RAM to cas2. The only glitch I can see is it locks up if you attempt to change boot device 3 in bios. Its seems really stable in windows though. definately quicker in benchmarks. "Bob Davis" wrote in message news:Xvqvb.104$US3.72@okepread03... "Old Dude" wrote in message link.net... With F8 installed, my PC totally freezes up when I try to enter the BIOS menu screen. I can press the DEL key one or more times at different points during the initial boot up process, and until the add-on BIOSes are processed (GigRAID, Promise SX4000 RAID controller card), I don't get the BIOS menu screen. Then, the PC does not respond to any keyboard input. With F7B, I had no problems like this. Mine doesn't freeze at any point, but waits 'til my SCSI bios is loaded before the bios screen will appear. This is the only external bios that I load, and the first time I've ever had the bios screen appear after that point. |
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I just received and tried the new F9a BIOS - unfortunately, it did not
resolve the problem as described in my NG posting, below. I have communicated this to Gigabyte. Folks, I think Gigabyte is really trying hard to resolve the BIOS issues for the GA-8KNXP series boards. My motherboard has been useful using the F7b BIOS in the meantime, I get my work needs done, so I can't complain. Please don't contact me about obtaining the F9a BIOS due to the problems I have experienced with it. "Old Dude" wrote in message k.net... I am not running any on-board RAID controllers, though I do have a Promise SX4000 IDE RAID PCI board. My PC boots with F8, runs Windows XP Pro off the Promise SX4000, it just that when I try to get into the BIOS, the keyboard freezes up. Re-flashing back to F7b makes everything work as expected, including getting into the BIOS and making changes. I am in email communications with Gigabyte in Taiwan on my F8 issues. It's slow going (10 days turn-around) and as soon as they give me a solution, I'll share it with the NG. Besides this on-going debacle with BIOSes, I find the GA-8KNXP to be pretty useful motherboard overall. Once we get beyond the BIOSes issues... "bdh" wrote in message ... Are running raid? or just ide controller "macrog" wrote in message ... It looks good to me. Finally lets me set RAM to cas2. The only glitch I can see is it locks up if you attempt to change boot device 3 in bios. Its seems really stable in windows though. definately quicker in benchmarks. "Bob Davis" wrote in message news:Xvqvb.104$US3.72@okepread03... "Old Dude" wrote in message link.net... With F8 installed, my PC totally freezes up when I try to enter the BIOS menu screen. I can press the DEL key one or more times at different points during the initial boot up process, and until the add-on BIOSes are processed (GigRAID, Promise SX4000 RAID controller card), I don't get the BIOS menu screen. Then, the PC does not respond to any keyboard input. With F7B, I had no problems like this. Mine doesn't freeze at any point, but waits 'til my SCSI bios is loaded before the bios screen will appear. This is the only external bios that I load, and the first time I've ever had the bios screen appear after that point. |
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