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Why is this HDD so small?
On 3/13/2021 1:26 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
micky wrote: Why is this so small? Alternatively, why aren't they all so small? Less than 4" x 1 1/4" x 1/3". Is it a real HDD, a spinner, with a rotating platter? It calls it a harddrive more than once, and never uses SSD, etc. but it's so small. https://www.amazon.com/External-Hard...9&sr=1-11&th=1 What about that it has no brand name? Would you buy it for a backup drive? For file backup, is a real 2.5" external drive better for backup? external 2.5" HDD, SSD, 3.5" HDD in a dock No offense, but why even consider stuff from weird merchants which peddle their stuff via Amazon!? Don't you have *reputable* webshops in the US? As far as I'm concerned, Amazon is completely reputable. I buy many things from them--probably somewhere around 100 a year--and I've never had a problem, except once when a product I expected to receive never arrived. Amazon not only refunded what I had paid, but also gave me a credit ($10, If I remember correctly). -- Ken |
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Why is this HDD so small?
On 2021-03-13 3:01 p.m., Ken Blake wrote:
On 3/13/2021 1:26 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote: micky wrote: Why is this so small? Alternatively, why aren't they all so small? Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Less than 4" x 1 1/4" x 1/3". Is it a real HDD, a spinner, with a rotating platter?Â*Â* It calls it a harddrive more than once, and never uses SSD, etc. but it's so small. https://www.amazon.com/External-Hard...9&sr=1-11&th=1 What about that it has no brand name?Â* Would you buy it for a backup drive? For file backup, is a real 2.5" external drive better for backup? external 2.5" HDD, SSD, 3.5" HDD in a dock Â*Â* No offense, but why even consider stuff from weird merchants which peddle their stuff via Amazon!? Â*Â* Don't you have *reputable* webshops in the US? As far as I'm concerned, Amazon is completely reputable. I buy many things from them--probably somewhere around 100 a year--and I've never had a problem, except once when a product I expected to receive never arrived. Amazon not only refunded what I had paid, but also gave me a credit ($10, If I remember correctly). Yes, Amazon itself is very reliable, I too place many orders per year and have no problems. what you have to watch for are the crappy shyster vendors and their stupidly outages prices. Yesterday my son went to Safeway and got me nine packages of flieshmans fast rising yeast, 9 pack cost $6.87 cdn, just for kicks I went on Amazon.ca, the same 9 packs sold for $15.25. Buyer Beware! Rene |
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Why is this HDD so small?
Frank Slootweg wrote:
micky wrote: Why is this so small? Alternatively, why aren't they all so small? Less than 4" x 1 1/4" x 1/3". Is it a real HDD, a spinner, with a rotating platter? It calls it a harddrive more than once, and never uses SSD, etc. but it's so small. https://www.amazon.com/External-Hard...9&sr=1-11&th=1 What about that it has no brand name? Would you buy it for a backup drive? For file backup, is a real 2.5" external drive better for backup? external 2.5" HDD, SSD, 3.5" HDD in a dock No offense, but why even consider stuff from weird merchants which peddle their stuff via Amazon!? Don't you have *reputable* webshops in the US? Have you even seen the 'name' of the merchant? 'qingyuanshiyongxinxiecaibaozhuangyouxiangongsi'? Give me a break! (At least that's what it says when using your URL from The Netherlands.) It doesn't matter how 'cheap' it is, I would never trust my data to fishy no-name stuff like that, especially not from a fishy merchant. Unbelievable. Google Translate could do that one. "Qingyuan Intentions Xie Cai Packing Co., Ltd." The first word may have been intended to be "Clear" as in "Clear Intentions". Just fiddling with the translate box a bit. Paul |
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Why is this HDD so small?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Mar 2021 17:57:51 -0500, Wolf K
wrote: On 2021-03-13 16:24, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 2021-03-13 3:01 p.m., Ken Blake wrote: On 3/13/2021 1:26 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote: micky wrote: Why is this so small? Alternatively, why aren't they all so small? ************** Less than 4" x 1 1/4" x 1/3". Is it a real HDD, a spinner, with a rotating platter?** It calls it a harddrive more than once, and never uses SSD, etc. but it's so small. https://www.amazon.com/External-Hard...9&sr=1-11&th=1 What about that it has no brand name?* Would you buy it for a backup drive? For file backup, is a real 2.5" external drive better for backup? external 2.5" HDD, SSD, 3.5" HDD in a dock ** No offense, but why even consider stuff from weird merchants which peddle their stuff via Amazon!? ** Don't you have *reputable* webshops in the US? As far as I'm concerned, Amazon is completely reputable. I buy many things from them--probably somewhere around 100 a year--and I've never had a problem, except once when a product I expected to receive never arrived. Amazon not only refunded what I had paid, but also gave me a credit ($10, If I remember correctly). Yes,* Amazon itself is very reliable, I too place many orders per year and have no problems. what you have to watch for are the crappy shyster vendors and their stupidly outages prices. Yesterday my son went to Safeway and got me nine packages of flieshmans fast rising yeast, 9 pack cost $6.87 cdn, just for kicks I went on Amazon.ca, the same 9 packs sold for $15.25. Buyer Beware! Rene Amazon relies on "It's Amazon, so it must be OK" factor. My take is the precise opposite. If it's Amazon, it's probably not OK. For one thing, Amazon takes a hefty slice of that vendor's prices. I prefer to deal with vendors directly, not through Amazon. They are not alone. Even Best Buy is a problem, most of their bargains are from 3rd party vendors. Even Staples now offers goods "shipped directly from the merchant". I prefer supporting a local brick'n'mortar shop if possible. They pay taxes locally. Amazon doesn't. It's a free-loader. Example: The town The law in the US is that if a merchant has a physical presence in a state, they have to collect sales tax and send the money to the state where the customer is. For years Amazon had few locations, I'm guessing 3 or 4 warehouses, but 5 or so years ago I guess because they had launched their speedy deliver plan, they built warehouses in maybe 47 of the 50 states. (including a big one in Baltimore where part of Bethlehem Steel was, and a big one near NorthEast Md that stocks a different category of things.) So they do collect sales tax. (What I don't understand is when they say "Only 2 left" but they still deliver in about the same length of time. Are they counting only things in warehouses near me, or do they only have 2 in the entire country? If the latter, there must be an awful lot of shipping back and forth and hither and yon and to and fro. needs cash to pay for snow plowing. Amazon depends on that service so And they pay property tax, and their mostly low-paid workers pay taxes. the delivery trucks can get to the customers. But Amazon don't pay a cent towards the cost of that service. Best, But I do prefer to buy things locally. If I were not old and fat and worried about Corona, I wouldn't rely on mail order (and grocery delivery) so much, and I hope to go back to normal within a year. |
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Why is this HDD so small?
On 13/03/2021 23.57, Wolf K wrote:
On 2021-03-13 16:24, Rene Lamontagne wrote: .... Amazon relies on "It's Amazon, so it must be OK" factor. My take is the precise opposite. If it's Amazon, it's probably not OK. For one thing, Amazon takes a hefty slice of that vendor's prices. I prefer to deal with vendors directly, not through Amazon. They are not alone. Even Best Buy is a problem, most of their bargains are from 3rd party vendors. Even Staples now offers goods "shipped directly from the merchant". I prefer supporting a local brick'n'mortar shop if possible. They pay taxes locally. Amazon doesn't. It's a free-loader. Example: The town needs cash to pay for snow plowing. Amazon depends on that service so the delivery trucks can get to the customers. But Amazon don't pay a cent towards the cost of that service. I prefer to buy locally if I find what I need. But Amazon allows me to search for things relatively easily in places that maybe be far from me, with a common interface, and usually reliably with some exceptions. It may be that the same product can be found, cheaper, on the web of some vendor, BUT! Webs that I do not know if I can trust. (My first purchase on the web was a fraud of about 1200€. Two laptops for the company I was working for. Year 1999 or so) Or maybe not cheaper, because mail and packaging has a cost, and with Amazon Prime most things are covered. I have been able to find, for example, spare pieces for my old vacuum cleaner sent from several frontiers away from me. No way I would have found and bought that on my own. Some shop on Europe has those spares I needed. Sometimes I search for something in Amazon, and when I find it I may also then know who has the same thing locally and I can buy it. Some times cheaper, sometimes the same price, some times more expensive. So, it varies. In the case of the OP, seeing the reports, I would not buy. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Why is this HDD so small?
micky wrote:
But I do prefer to buy things locally. If I were not old and fat and worried about Corona, I wouldn't rely on mail order (and grocery delivery) so much, and I hope to go back to normal within a year. I think you would enjoy the experience. Take my store. 1) Wash hands at entrance. Portable fountain with foot pump to make water flow. Rather than alcohol dispenser like a Walmart, it's some sort of foam soap stuff. Maybe the owner makes it in a big washtub in his basement. 2) Escorted by your very own assistant. Now allowed to wander around store. This also means the head count inside the store, is very strictly limited. 3) Not allowed to finger items. Point to item, assistant collects it for you. This is how I ended up with my weird new keyboard for the Test Machine, all I could do was point at it, then get it home and discover what I'd got. 4) The pair of you walk to the front and pay. This means it's best if you work from a home-prepared list, before you "shop". "shop" being the comedic word for this Brinks Security notion of shopping. It's still convenient, because if you need an SSD at 9AM, you can get one. But in terms of web listing, versus store stock, not many items are fully stocked. You can expect to find hard drives in stock. There are racks behind the counter with those. If you need an 18TB WDC Gold for $500, they'll have exactly one. You would expect video cards and AMD Ryzen processors, to be a big fat zero. But web cams have come back. There's a few Logitech in stock. There will always be Intel processors, because they spend their days creating new SKUs with the word "... Lake" in the name. "Apology Lake". Paul |
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Why is this HDD so small?
On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 17:39:34 -0500, Paul wrote:
Unbelievable. Google Translate could do that one. "Qingyuan Intentions Xie Cai Packing Co., Ltd." The first word may have been intended to be "Clear" as in "Clear Intentions". Just fiddling with the translate box a bit. Might be intentional. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qingyuan Regards, Dave Hodgins -- Change to for email replies. |
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Why is this HDD so small?
Ken Blake wrote:
On 3/13/2021 1:26 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote: micky wrote: Why is this so small? Alternatively, why aren't they all so small? Less than 4" x 1 1/4" x 1/3". Is it a real HDD, a spinner, with a rotating platter? It calls it a harddrive more than once, and never uses SSD, etc. but it's so small. https://www.amazon.com/External-Hard...9&sr=1-11&th=1 What about that it has no brand name? Would you buy it for a backup drive? For file backup, is a real 2.5" external drive better for backup? external 2.5" HDD, SSD, 3.5" HDD in a dock No offense, but why even consider stuff from weird merchants which peddle their stuff via Amazon!? Don't you have *reputable* webshops in the US? As far as I'm concerned, Amazon is completely reputable. I buy many things from them--probably somewhere around 100 a year--and I've never had a problem, except once when a product I expected to receive never arrived. Amazon not only refunded what I had paid, but also gave me a credit ($10, If I remember correctly). You don't buy things *from* them (at least not in cases like this), but *through* them. The only thing you get is *financial* 'security', *if* you spot in time that the advertized item is indeed a lemon. But the point - which you've snipped - is, (very) weird merchant, which peddles a mislabeled/misadvertized, no-name device which you're supposed to trust your data to. FWIW, we (NL) also have Amazon-like companies (they pre-date Amazon in Europe) and Amazon is ramping up here. I only use (the merchants which sell through) such companies if there's no reasonable alternative and the lemon-risk is not important. (And I think a lot would have to change before I would consider buying through or from Amazon.) |
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Why is this HDD so small?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on 14 Mar 2021 11:27:44 GMT, Frank Slootweg
wrote: As far as I'm concerned, Amazon is completely reputable. I buy many things from them--probably somewhere around 100 a year--and I've never had a problem, except once when a product I expected to receive never arrived. Amazon not only refunded what I had paid, but also gave me a credit ($10, If I remember correctly). You don't buy things *from* them (at least not in cases like this), but *through* them. The only thing you get is *financial* 'security', *if* you spot in time that the advertized item is indeed a lemon. But the point - which you've snipped - is, (very) weird merchant, which peddles a mislabeled/misadvertized, no-name device which you're supposed to trust your data to. FWIW, we (NL) also have Amazon-like companies (they pre-date Amazon in Europe) and Amazon is ramping up here. I only use (the merchants which So you might know... How much do you think Amazon copied, or could have copied, from the European Amazon-like companies? And how much was innovation by Amazon? For example: A picture of the item. Multiple pictures, often from all angles, of the item, Detailed description, far more than what Walmart usually has, just the name of the item and 7 or 8 words that describe it. Ratings by buyers that they post even when they are negative. Ratings by others also. Verified buyers labeled (I think this started later, or maybe I just noticed it later.) Questions by prospective buyers with posted answers by the vendor? And answers by other customers? sell through) such companies if there's no reasonable alternative and the lemon-risk is not important. (And I think a lot would have to change before I would consider buying through or from Amazon.) |
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Why is this HDD so small?
On 3/13/21 3:01 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
[snip] As far as I'm concerned, Amazon is completely reputable. I buy many things from them--probably somewhere around 100 a year--and I've never had a problem, except once when a product I expected to receive never arrived. Amazon not only refunded what I had paid, but also gave me a credit ($10, If I remember correctly). I have occasionally has problems with Amazon orders (such as a router that arrived dead), put always got good customer service. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Time that I enjoy wasting is not wasted time" -- T.S.Eliot |
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