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Hibernate and suspend simply not supported on GA-K8N Pro?
I haven't been able to find a way to hibernate or suspend with this
motherboard, running XP Pro. Is it simply not supported? TIA. Dan |
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Hibernate and suspend simply not supported on GA-K8N Pro?
Under Power Management in the BIOS (I have the latest BIOS loaded, F14),
I can choose S1 or S3 type suspend. I set the power button to require 4+ second press to turn off, otherwise go into the selected suspend mode. However, in Windows XP, Control Panel, Power Options, there's no mention of suspend. I'm only given the option of powering off immediately when pressing the power button or do nothing or being asked what to do. When asked, I can only Turn Off or Restart. Standby is greyed out. Why is it greyed out? Windows help says the options in Power Options will reflect what's supported by the motherboard, i.e. the BIOS. I don't see a setting in the BIOS to enable it. It's already set up in BIOS. Dan |
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Hibernate and suspend simply not supported on GA-K8N Pro?
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:41:47 -0700, Dan Musicant )
wrote: Under Power Management in the BIOS (I have the latest BIOS loaded, F14), I can choose S1 or S3 type suspend. I set the power button to require 4+ second press to turn off, otherwise go into the selected suspend mode. However, in Windows XP, Control Panel, Power Options, there's no mention of suspend. I'm only given the option of powering off immediately when pressing the power button or do nothing or being asked what to do. When asked, I can only Turn Off or Restart. Standby is greyed out. Why is it greyed out? Windows help says the options in Power Options will reflect what's supported by the motherboard, i.e. the BIOS. I don't see a setting in the BIOS to enable it. It's already set up in BIOS. In order for standby to work, you have to install the Windows XP driver for the video card. Dan ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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Hibernate and suspend simply not supported on GA-K8N Pro?
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:46:34 -0700, Andy wrote:
:On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:41:47 -0700, Dan Musicant ) :wrote: : :Under Power Management in the BIOS (I have the latest BIOS loaded, F14), :I can choose S1 or S3 type suspend. I set the power button to require 4+ :second press to turn off, otherwise go into the selected suspend mode. : :However, in Windows XP, Control Panel, Power Options, there's no mention :of suspend. I'm only given the option of powering off immediately when :pressing the power button or do nothing or being asked what to do. When :asked, I can only Turn Off or Restart. Standby is greyed out. Why is it :greyed out? Windows help says the options in Power Options will reflect :what's supported by the motherboard, i.e. the BIOS. I don't see a :setting in the BIOS to enable it. It's already set up in BIOS. : :In order for standby to work, you have to install the Windows XP :driver for the video card. Hmm. I'm running a BFG nvidia 6600 GTOC, using the 8.4.2.1 driver, which I was told is the best for this video card. It's dated 3/9/2006. I'd have to believe it supports XP. Anyway, based on what you say I'm downloading the latest nVidia driver, 162.73_quadro_winxp2k_english.exe, a 37 MB file. I'll remove my display adapter, reboot and install it and see what happens. Thanks. Dan |
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Hibernate and suspend simply not supported on GA-K8N Pro?
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:46:34 -0700, Andy wrote:
:On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:41:47 -0700, Dan Musicant ) :wrote: : :Under Power Management in the BIOS (I have the latest BIOS loaded, F14), :I can choose S1 or S3 type suspend. I set the power button to require 4+ :second press to turn off, otherwise go into the selected suspend mode. : :However, in Windows XP, Control Panel, Power Options, there's no mention :of suspend. I'm only given the option of powering off immediately when :pressing the power button or do nothing or being asked what to do. When :asked, I can only Turn Off or Restart. Standby is greyed out. Why is it :greyed out? Windows help says the options in Power Options will reflect :what's supported by the motherboard, i.e. the BIOS. I don't see a :setting in the BIOS to enable it. It's already set up in BIOS. : :In order for standby to work, you have to install the Windows XP :driver for the video card. After removing my display adapter and rebooting, I tried to install that driver I mentioned in my last post ( 162.73_quadro_winxp2k_english.exe), but a message eventually came up that it couldn't support the hardware/software (don't recall the exact wording) and the installation terminated. So, I looked around in my downloads folder and found another nvidia driver, which indicated XP and Windows 2000 support in the file name: 66.93_win2kxp_international.exe, and my notes indicate this is a WHQL approved driver. I installed it instead, and the ACPI support appears to have NOT changed. Under Computer in Device Manager it says: ACPI Uniprocessor PC I presume that means that XP install determined that the system is capable of ACPI support and that it was enabled. However, when I shut down the system in Task Manager the first two items are greyed out: Stand By (greyed out) Hibernate (greyed out) Turn Off Restart Log Off my name Switch User I'm wondering if I should try another XP installation, first removing all my PCI cards. I have the latest BIOS installed for my motherboard, F14. Today being Sunday, I will wait until tomorrow before calling Gigabyte support. |
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Hibernate and suspend simply not supported on GA-K8N Pro?
This is the latest driver:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_169.21_whql.html. On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:30:28 -0700, Dan Musicant ) wrote: On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:46:34 -0700, Andy wrote: :On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:41:47 -0700, Dan Musicant ) :wrote: : :Under Power Management in the BIOS (I have the latest BIOS loaded, F14), :I can choose S1 or S3 type suspend. I set the power button to require 4+ :second press to turn off, otherwise go into the selected suspend mode. : :However, in Windows XP, Control Panel, Power Options, there's no mention :of suspend. I'm only given the option of powering off immediately when :pressing the power button or do nothing or being asked what to do. When :asked, I can only Turn Off or Restart. Standby is greyed out. Why is it :greyed out? Windows help says the options in Power Options will reflect :what's supported by the motherboard, i.e. the BIOS. I don't see a :setting in the BIOS to enable it. It's already set up in BIOS. : :In order for standby to work, you have to install the Windows XP :driver for the video card. Hmm. I'm running a BFG nvidia 6600 GTOC, using the 8.4.2.1 driver, which I was told is the best for this video card. It's dated 3/9/2006. I'd have to believe it supports XP. Anyway, based on what you say I'm downloading the latest nVidia driver, 162.73_quadro_winxp2k_english.exe, a 37 MB file. I'll remove my display adapter, reboot and install it and see what happens. Thanks. Dan ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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Hibernate and suspend simply not supported on GA-K8N Pro?
All you should have to do is uninstall the old graphics driver,
reboot, then install the new graphics driver, and reboot again. On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:57:02 GMT, Dan Musicant ) wrote: On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:46:34 -0700, Andy wrote: :On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:41:47 -0700, Dan Musicant ) :wrote: : :Under Power Management in the BIOS (I have the latest BIOS loaded, F14), :I can choose S1 or S3 type suspend. I set the power button to require 4+ :second press to turn off, otherwise go into the selected suspend mode. : :However, in Windows XP, Control Panel, Power Options, there's no mention :of suspend. I'm only given the option of powering off immediately when :pressing the power button or do nothing or being asked what to do. When :asked, I can only Turn Off or Restart. Standby is greyed out. Why is it :greyed out? Windows help says the options in Power Options will reflect :what's supported by the motherboard, i.e. the BIOS. I don't see a :setting in the BIOS to enable it. It's already set up in BIOS. : :In order for standby to work, you have to install the Windows XP :driver for the video card. After removing my display adapter and rebooting, I tried to install that driver I mentioned in my last post ( 162.73_quadro_winxp2k_english.exe), but a message eventually came up that it couldn't support the hardware/software (don't recall the exact wording) and the installation terminated. So, I looked around in my downloads folder and found another nvidia driver, which indicated XP and Windows 2000 support in the file name: 66.93_win2kxp_international.exe, and my notes indicate this is a WHQL approved driver. I installed it instead, and the ACPI support appears to have NOT changed. Under Computer in Device Manager it says: ACPI Uniprocessor PC I presume that means that XP install determined that the system is capable of ACPI support and that it was enabled. However, when I shut down the system in Task Manager the first two items are greyed out: Stand By (greyed out) Hibernate (greyed out) Turn Off Restart Log Off my name Switch User I'm wondering if I should try another XP installation, first removing all my PCI cards. I have the latest BIOS installed for my motherboard, F14. Today being Sunday, I will wait until tomorrow before calling Gigabyte support. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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Hibernate and suspend simply not supported on GA-K8N Pro?
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:44:52 -0700, Andy wrote:
:All you should have to do is uninstall the old graphics driver, :reboot, then install the new graphics driver, and reboot again. OK, so I downloaded the latest nVidia WHQL driver, the one you linked me to today ( 169.21_forceware_winxp_32bit_english_whql.exe ) and I was about to do as you say above when I thought I'd continue what I was doing earlier in the day before I took a break from all this -- I had done a google on "standby greyed out" and got lots of hits. On the second Google page was this one: http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=81547 A guy suggested the fellow having the problem do an Everest Home Edition report and paste it in a post. Having the program already installed, I did a report and started searching through it for a clue. I left off at around 25% into the long report. Just now, I decided to look further into the report before uninstalling my display driver and installing the new one. I noticed this about my rather newish 500 GB SATA HD: [ SAMSUNG HD501LJ (S0MUJ1PP310938) ] ATA Device Properties: Model ID SAMSUNG HD501LJ Serial Number S0MUJ1PP310938 Revision CR100-10 Parameters 969021 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 554 bytes per sector LBA Sectors 976773168 Buffer 16 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead) Multiple Sectors 16 ECC Bytes 4 Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4 Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133) Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100) Unformatted Capacity 516064 MB ATA Device Features: SMART Supported Security Mode Supported Power Management Supported Advanced Power Management Not Supported Write Cache Supported Host Protected Area Supported Power-Up In Standby Not Supported Automatic Acoustic Management Supported 48-bit LBA Supported Device Configuration Overlay Supported ATA Device Manufacturer: Company Name Samsung Product Information http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/index.htm - - - - In particular, I noticed where it said: Advanced Power Management Not Supported ....and... Power-Up In Standby Not Supported So, I figuring it was another wild goose chase (I've been doing them all weekend trying to resolve this!), I went into the BIOS and disabled SATA HD support. Upon rebooting, my 500 GB SATA drive is no longer seen, but my Standby and Hibernate are suddenly ENABLED! I find this amazing. SATA HD's are supposed to be an advance, a relative newcomer in the PC storage scene, and installing one has disabled my ACPI! I wonder if there is a workaround? Maybe if I get an SATA controller card?? Or maybe if I get a different SATA HD? Dan : :On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:57:02 GMT, Dan Musicant ) :wrote: : :On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:46:34 -0700, Andy wrote: : ::On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:41:47 -0700, Dan Musicant ) ::wrote: :: ::Under Power Management in the BIOS (I have the latest BIOS loaded, F14), ::I can choose S1 or S3 type suspend. I set the power button to require 4+ ::second press to turn off, otherwise go into the selected suspend mode. :: ::However, in Windows XP, Control Panel, Power Options, there's no mention ::of suspend. I'm only given the option of powering off immediately when ::pressing the power button or do nothing or being asked what to do. When ::asked, I can only Turn Off or Restart. Standby is greyed out. Why is it ::greyed out? Windows help says the options in Power Options will reflect ::what's supported by the motherboard, i.e. the BIOS. I don't see a ::setting in the BIOS to enable it. It's already set up in BIOS. :: ::In order for standby to work, you have to install the Windows XP ::driver for the video card. : :After removing my display adapter and rebooting, I tried to install that :driver I mentioned in my last post ( 162.73_quadro_winxp2k_english.exe), :but a message eventually came up that it couldn't support the :hardware/software (don't recall the exact wording) and the installation :terminated. So, I looked around in my downloads folder and found another :nvidia driver, which indicated XP and Windows 2000 support in the file :name: 66.93_win2kxp_international.exe, and my notes indicate this is a :WHQL approved driver. I installed it instead, and the ACPI support :appears to have NOT changed. : :Under Computer in Device Manager it says: : :ACPI Uniprocessor PC : :I presume that means that XP install determined that the system is :capable of ACPI support and that it was enabled. However, when I shut :down the system in Task Manager the first two items are greyed out: : :Stand By (greyed out) :Hibernate (greyed out) :Turn Off :Restart :Log Off my name :Switch User : : :I'm wondering if I should try another XP installation, first removing :all my PCI cards. : :I have the latest BIOS installed for my motherboard, F14. : :Today being Sunday, I will wait until tomorrow before calling Gigabyte :support. : :** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:13:03 -0400, Paul wrote:
wrote: : On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:44:52 -0700, Andy wrote: : : :All you should have to do is uninstall the old graphics driver, : :reboot, then install the new graphics driver, and reboot again. : : OK, so I downloaded the latest nVidia WHQL driver, the one you linked me : to today ( 169.21_forceware_winxp_32bit_english_whql.exe ) and I was : about to do as you say above when I thought I'd continue what I was : doing earlier in the day before I took a break from all this -- I had : done a google on "standby greyed out" and got lots of hits. On the : second Google page was this one: : : http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=81547 : : A guy suggested the fellow having the problem do an Everest Home Edition : report and paste it in a post. Having the program already installed, I : did a report and started searching through it for a clue. I left off at : around 25% into the long report. Just now, I decided to look further : into the report before uninstalling my display driver and installing the : new one. I noticed this about my rather newish 500 GB SATA HD: : : [ SAMSUNG HD501LJ (S0MUJ1PP310938) ] : : ATA Device Properties: : Model ID SAMSUNG HD501LJ : Serial Number S0MUJ1PP310938 : Revision CR100-10 : Parameters 969021 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 : sectors per track, 554 bytes per sector : LBA Sectors 976773168 : Buffer 16 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead) : Multiple Sectors 16 : ECC Bytes 4 : Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4 : Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133) : Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100) : Unformatted Capacity 516064 MB : : ATA Device Features: : SMART Supported : Security Mode Supported : Power Management Supported : Advanced Power Management Not Supported : Write Cache Supported : Host Protected Area Supported : Power-Up In Standby Not Supported : Automatic Acoustic Management Supported : 48-bit LBA Supported : Device Configuration Overlay Supported : : ATA Device Manufacturer: : Company Name Samsung : Product Information : http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/index.htm : - - - - : In particular, I noticed where it said: : : Advanced Power Management Not Supported : ...and... : Power-Up In Standby Not Supported : : So, I figuring it was another wild goose chase (I've been doing them all : weekend trying to resolve this!), I went into the BIOS and disabled SATA : HD support. Upon rebooting, my 500 GB SATA drive is no longer seen, but : my Standby and Hibernate are suddenly ENABLED! : : I find this amazing. SATA HD's are supposed to be an advance, a relative : newcomer in the PC storage scene, and installing one has disabled my : ACPI! I wonder if there is a workaround? Maybe if I get an SATA : controller card?? Or maybe if I get a different SATA HD? : : Dan : :I checked my Everest report, and I have an older Seagate drive, not even :a SATA drive. My ATA Device Features are the same as yours, only :my "Automatic Acoustic Management" is "Not Supported". And my ACPI :is working. I'd say you're on to something, but it may not be the :hard drive. It could be the driver that controls the SATA interface, :whatever one is being used. Possible drivers would be a default :Microsoft one, or a chipset driver you installed when you used :the motherboard CD. : :There is a program called "dummpo.exe" you can get from Microsoft. One :web site (a site in France), showed an example where dumppo had highlighted :a driver as not being compatible with ACPI. Implying that dumppo could :detect a problem. I'm not as hopeful myself, suspecting that it cannot :detect every problem. But maybe, if it uses the same logic and checks :the same facilities as the OS does, it will arrive at a correct answer. : :Look for "LEGACY DRIVER DETECTED" on this page. This is a very large web page, :so allow a couple minutes for it to render. This is an archived copy. : :http://web.archive.org/web/200404040...ndows2000.html : umppo runs in a DOS command box, and doesn't have a GUI. The following :is from a previous posting. : :******* :ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/Products/Oem...cpi/dumppo.exe : :dumppo options: : : CAP = Capabilities : PS = Power Supply : BS = Battery Supply : ADMIN = Administration : AC = AC Power Settings : DC = DC Power Settings : AC MAXSLEEP=Sx : AC MINSLEEP=Sx : where x is the ACPI value (1 & 3) : :You run the program in a command (DOS) window, and a basic command to :try would be "dumppo cap" to get capabilities. : :Some other users having fun with Dumppo he : :"dumppo admin /ac minsleep=S3" :http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.p...8&postcount=31 :******* : :HTH, : Paul Thanks. I had the idea to disconnect the HD from the PC and see if ACPI was working when SATA was enabled. If it did, then I could assume that the HD was at fault, and not the SATA driver or chip. My experiment this morning confirmed this, i.e. ACPI still didn't work when the HD was disconnected, so I figured I could rule out problems with the Samsung HD. Further experimenting revealed that (while leaving SATA Enabled) changing the "Serial ATA Function" in the BIOS from BASE to RAID restored ACPI functionality, and that my SATA HD appears to function OK with that setting. I have no idea why this would be so. It's either a workaround or maybe it's supposed to work that way, I don't know. I have no intention of setting up a RAID array of any kind at this time. I figured that this being the case, and having only one SATA HD installed, that BASE was the proper setting for that function in the BIOS. Maybe I was mistaken, or maybe it's a glitch in the driver. Maybe I should contact Gigabyte and ask for an explanation. I'm wondering if there's a downside to running the single SATA HD as RAID. Unfortunately, the installation CD for this MB is unreadable. It's fairly warped and my DVD burner can't read it. I tried to unwarp it by pressing between flat surfaces, clamped in the oven at 150F for over an hour, but the experiment failed! Meantime, I'd downloaded a slew of drivers for the MB from Gigabyte's website and installed them after loading XP Pro. I may have missed a driver, not sure. The odd thing is that a manual was included with the MB (packaged as new, and obviously new although the MB is from 2004 or so), that's entitled: SATA RAID Function (Only for Chipset SiI3112 Used) ------------------------------------- User's Manual However, I downloaded the driver for this (at the page for this MB), and tried to install it and the installation failed. I looked up the spec for the MB at Gigabyte's website and it says the included chip is SiI3512! That's the one shown as correctly installed in Device Manager. Since changing the Serial ATA Function from BASE to RAID, a yellow question mark has disappeared from Device Manager for a disk controller, so I guess that change was advisable. Dan |
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