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Nvidia G80 (NV50) has around 500 million transistors
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showth...t=28551&page=9
QUOTE: .................................................. .................................................. ................................. "Some G80 details from a JP Morgan investor conference on 5/24. It is ~ 500 million transistors and will be done when its done, but they are shooting for Septemberish." .................................................. .................................................. ................................. |
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Nvidia G80 (NV50) has around 500 million transistors
further proof that G80 / NV50 has over half a billion transistors http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showth...737#post775737 Q: When's your next gen part? Mike Hara, VP Investor Relations on 5/24/2006: A: "Well, you know GPUs are getting so large and so complex the timing of it is almost one of those things that the timing of it is 'it comes out when it comes out'. . .as much as you try to plan it for a certain event it really is on a schedule that says 'when it's done it's done'. .. .now the reason why that works, at least for the high-end. . .the first high-end gpu that comes out. . .is because it is going to get purchased by enthusiasts who really don't care if it is Christmas, the middle of summer, or spring. If it has a discernible advantage over the last gpu, they'll buy it. So our schedule right now on the next generation GeForce [Hmm, that's the first time we've heard them confirm it is still 'GeForce'?] is going to be second half, and the objective is to hit it for 'back to school'. But fundamentally we're really just targeting second half. Which means that the current GeForce 7 family, with the exception of the high-end, is really the family you're going to see in the back to school cycle. [So what I got out of that: if next spin goes well, they hit 'back to school' for a high-end part. If not, it'll be later. And no full family simultaneous launch.] But this one is. . .we kind of describe it inside the company as. . . 'this is probably the biggest architectural change in the company's history from one generation to the next' [Hmm!] I'll give you a little bit of insight. . .this device is going to be over half a billion transistors large. It will, without doubt, be the most complex device being built in the semi-conductor business today. So the current schedule right now is to have it in the second half. And we'll do typical, which is a 'hard launch', which means we'll launch it when it's actually available in retail." __________________________________________________ AUDIO: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZRUFCLGL |
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Nvidia G80 (NV50) has around 500 million transistors
large. It will, without doubt, be the most complex device being built in the semi-conductor business today. ... .... and one of the most expensive probably. Be ready to sell one kidney and one cornea for the basic model, half your liver and some skin on top of that for the crunchy version. Lorenzo |
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Nvidia G80 (NV50) has around 500 million transistors
Lorenzo Sandini wrote:
large. It will, without doubt, be the most complex device being built in the semi-conductor business today. ... ... and one of the most expensive probably. Be ready to sell one kidney and one cornea for the basic model, half your liver and some skin on top of that for the crunchy version. Lorenzo theres no point making something that no one can afford. It will cost probably the same as the 7900GTX did at release time. |
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Nvidia G80 (NV50) has around 500 million transistors
Big Bird wrote:
Lorenzo Sandini wrote: large. It will, without doubt, be the most complex device being built in the semi-conductor business today. ... ... and one of the most expensive probably. Be ready to sell one kidney and one cornea for the basic model, half your liver and some skin on top of that for the crunchy version. Lorenzo theres no point making something that no one can afford. It will cost probably the same as the 7900GTX did at release time. In my experience the best cards nowadays cost more than the best card 2 years ago, which cost more than the best card 4 years ago, and so on. I remember when my beginning-of-death Voodoo 2 12 MB and Matrox Millenium 8MB cost me 300 euros together, and that was a high price for a graphic card (combination). Now some pay around 500 euros for theirs... What's the point of making an Aston Martin, or a Bentley ? You'll always find a buyer, whatever the price. Lorenzo |
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Nvidia G80 (NV50) has around 500 million transistors
In message , Lorenzo Sandini
writes large. It will, without doubt, be the most complex device being built in the semi-conductor business today. ... ... and one of the most expensive probably. Be ready to sell one kidney and one cornea for the basic model, half your liver and some skin on top of that for the crunchy version. Lorenzo Catch 22 - sell the cornea & you don't get to see the benefit of the latest flashy graphics :-/ LOL But... 3 months down the line and the next one is out so you can pick that one up at a half decent price... Same story as always, it's a case of when to jump on the bandwagon, and how high to jump! -- Neil J Bundy |
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Nvidia G80 (NV50) has around 500 million transistors
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:00:15 +1000, Big Bird
wrote: Lorenzo Sandini wrote: large. It will, without doubt, be the most complex device being built in the semi-conductor business today. ... ... and one of the most expensive probably. Be ready to sell one kidney and one cornea for the basic model, half your liver and some skin on top of that for the crunchy version. Lorenzo theres no point making something that no one can afford. It will cost probably the same as the 7900GTX did at release time. Oh good only 500.00+ bucks ! ;-( |
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Nvidia G80 (NV50) has around 500 million transistors
Just pimp out your sister for $90 a "trick" and you'll collect enough in no
time.... Jokes aside, I seem to recall the G80 will be on the 65 nm process, so nVidia should be able to fit the same number of dies on a wafer, keeping costs within reason. Of course, the GPU accounts for only half the cost. The other half is typically paid to Samsung for ultra low-yield RAM modules. I wouldn't be surprised if the G80 turns out to be not much faster than the 7900. Unified shaders would add much complexity, but not performance, in today's games. -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "Lorenzo Sandini" wrote in message ... ... and one of the most expensive probably. Be ready to sell one kidney and one cornea for the basic model, half your liver and some skin on top of that for the crunchy version. Lorenzo |
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Nvidia G80 (NV50) has around 500 million transistors
"First of One" wrote in message
... Jokes aside, I seem to recall the G80 will be on the 65 nm process, so nVidia should be able to fit the same number of dies on a wafer, keeping costs within reason. Of course, the GPU accounts for only half the cost. The other half is typically paid to Samsung for ultra low-yield RAM modules. Same number of dies, but a more costly wafer, and a lower yield. /mel/ |
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Nvidia G80 (NV50) has around 500 million transistors
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:11:01 +0100, "/mel/"
wrote: "First of One" wrote in message m... Jokes aside, I seem to recall the G80 will be on the 65 nm process, so nVidia should be able to fit the same number of dies on a wafer, keeping costs within reason. Of course, the GPU accounts for only half the cost. The other half is typically paid to Samsung for ultra low-yield RAM modules. Same number of dies, but initially a more costly wafer, and a lower initial yield. It takes 1-2 years for process maturity, at which time the cost/wafer and yield ( for the same die area ) is the same or less than that of the previous process at the same maturity stage. A corollary to Moore's Law. How long silicon can continue to shrink without serious current leakage and/or voltage-breakdown issues is the $64 question. John Lewis /mel/ |
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