Not OT, right on topic: Ridiculous prices+rich(?) people=inflation in the market

Hi,

I just can't help but see that people are not ****ed off, but in fact paying
these ridiculous graphics card bills.

I remember the days we were paying $65 for a really good graphics card.
Although I know that todays's cards are way way different than those days',
I still think that especially latest generation cards are way overpriced.
$600?!? $500? Please, even $400?

Always remember: If no one buys them, the prices WILL go down, and quick!
The rich, or dumb, pull the prices up, and keep them up by paying for these
ridiculous price tags; and we all loose!

The companies will milk the bejeesus out of us, if they can, nad they will.
Why would not they? If I could sell something for the most that I could sell
it for,i.e., not for what it's worth, why would I sell it for any lower,
right?

Same applies to latest (especially hyped) games, a very good example is
Doom3. $55 for a game? Good God! No way I am paying that. Card prices are
already inflated, I am not going to help inflating the game prices now.

Come on people, THINK and ACT! Please...
I thought that the 'computer community' was a little smarter than this.
Let's not be herd by the marketers of these companies.

What do you think? Spell your guts, it's your turn.

GT

The rich, or dumb, pull the prices up, and keep them up by paying for
these
ridiculous price tags; and we all loose!

Oh noes !!! We all the loosers!!!!




B.

"GT-Force" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I just can't help but see that people are not ****ed off, but in fact
paying
these ridiculous graphics card bills.

I remember the days we were paying $65 for a really good graphics card.
Although I know that todays's cards are way way different than those
days',
I still think that especially latest generation cards are way overpriced.
$600?!? $500? Please, even $400?

Always remember: If no one buys them, the prices WILL go down, and quick!
The rich, or dumb, pull the prices up, and keep them up by paying for
these
ridiculous price tags; and we all loose!

The companies will milk the bejeesus out of us, if they can, nad they
will.
Why would not they? If I could sell something for the most that I could
sell
it for,i.e., not for what it's worth, why would I sell it for any lower,
right?

Same applies to latest (especially hyped) games, a very good example is
Doom3. $55 for a game? Good God! No way I am paying that. Card prices are
already inflated, I am not going to help inflating the game prices now.

Come on people, THINK and ACT! Please...
I thought that the 'computer community' was a little smarter than this.
Let's not be herd by the marketers of these companies.

What do you think? Spell your guts, it's your turn.

GT



We are game addicts. Not buying the latest hardware to play your game at its
max is like a junky saying "ok I wont buy any more drugs until the price
comes down".
Actually I can afford to buy the latest graphics card ,but even though there
is a lot of excitement about the new games like D3 and how good the new
cards are, I am holding off on buying them because IMO they cost more than I
care to spend for something that I don't really need. Well, at least until
my game addictiveness takes over. I keep reading the D3 reviews and actually
hoping its not really that good so I wont be tempted to buy it or new V card
for it until the price comes down. HL2 is going to be very tough to hold off
an upgrade. Hopefully it will be delayed again, oh but by then I might need
a whole new PC. Dam!

Lou

"GT-Force" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I just can't help but see that people are not ****ed off, but in fact
paying
these ridiculous graphics card bills.

I remember the days we were paying $65 for a really good graphics card.
Although I know that todays's cards are way way different than those
days',
I still think that especially latest generation cards are way overpriced.
$600?!? $500? Please, even $400?


The high prices VGA market is only a small portion of the total market, and
a small percentage of sales.

Always remember: If no one buys them, the prices WILL go down, and quick!
The rich, or dumb, pull the prices up, and keep them up by paying for
these
ridiculous price tags; and we all loose!

If no one buys them they will not be produced, as this would be the signal
that the market does not want them.


The companies will milk the bejeesus out of us, if they can, nad they
will.
Why would not they? If I could sell something for the most that I could
sell
it for,i.e., not for what it's worth, why would I sell it for any lower,
right?

Same applies to latest (especially hyped) games, a very good example is
Doom3. $55 for a game? Good God! No way I am paying that. Card prices are
already inflated, I am not going to help inflating the game prices now.

It's market forces - companies have a unique product and they will optimise
their profit. You just said you would do it yourself in the previous
paragraph. Why do you think PS2 games and DVDs are reigion specific? So
companies can charge different prices in different counties as too what they
think the market will bear.


Come on people, THINK and ACT! Please...
I thought that the 'computer community' was a little smarter than this.
Let's not be herd by the marketers of these companies.

What do you think? Spell your guts, it's your turn.

GT


I think you are naive. If you think product x is too expensive then don't
buy it.

I think you are naive. If you think product x is too expensive then don't
buy it.

That's right, don't buy it and that forces them to lower their prices quicker.

It also forces them to cut R&D, and new products are released at a much
slower pace.

PRIVATE1964 wrote:

I think you are naive. If you think product x is too expensive then don't
buy it.

That's right, don't buy it and that forces them to lower their prices quicker.

"Blahguy" wrote in message
...
I think you are naive. If you think product x is too expensive then don't
buy it.

That's what I am already doing, but my point was not it. My point was the
inflated, overpriced games and hardware.

As you said, if they can afford to sell it for lower, as they are doing in
other countries, why not in US? Because customers are willing to and do pay
more. This is the ONLY reason for these ridiculous prices, I think.

GT

Software cost a tremendous amout of to develop, but each extra copy
costs very little to make. It is hard to plan a pricing strategy that will
maximize profits for the game makers. Perhaps in the future we might
see inovative pricing for games, such as a strategy of not dropping the
price for a game, but offering the consumer a chance to buy a game
that is no longer selling so well at a big discount if bought at the same
time as the more current game.


GT-Force wrote:

"Blahguy" wrote in message
...
I think you are naive. If you think product x is too expensive then don't
buy it.

That's what I am already doing, but my point was not it. My point was the
inflated, overpriced games and hardware.

As you said, if they can afford to sell it for lower, as they are doing in
other countries, why not in US? Because customers are willing to and do pay
more. This is the ONLY reason for these ridiculous prices, I think.

GT

That's what I am already doing, but my point was not it. My point was the
inflated, overpriced games and hardware.


The prices are not really inflated. If they were you would be paying a lot more
then $50 for a game.

I've been involved with computers and gaming for a long time.

In the mid 80's memory was just as expensive as it is now and you got a lot
less for your money, same thing with hard drives and video cards.
Games were just as expensive back then the prices have not really increased. If
the game was new the price was around $50. I remember buying a few.

Also consider this.

How much computer power would you get in 1985 for $1000, compared to a system
you can buy today for that same $1000?

Now compare the prices of cars from 1985 to now.

In alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia, GT-Force ordered an army of
hamsters to type:

Hi,

I just can't help but see that people are not ****ed off, but in fact
paying these ridiculous graphics card bills.

I remember the days we were paying $65 for a really good graphics
card. Although I know that todays's cards are way way different than
those days', I still think that especially latest generation cards are
way overpriced. $600?!? $500? Please, even $400?

Always remember: If no one buys them, the prices WILL go down, and
quick! The rich, or dumb, pull the prices up, and keep them up by
paying for these ridiculous price tags; and we all loose!

The companies will milk the bejeesus out of us, if they can, nad they
will. Why would not they? If I could sell something for the most that
I could sell it for,i.e., not for what it's worth, why would I sell it
for any lower, right?

Same applies to latest (especially hyped) games, a very good example
is Doom3. $55 for a game? Good God! No way I am paying that. Card
prices are already inflated, I am not going to help inflating the game
prices now.

Come on people, THINK and ACT! Please...
I thought that the 'computer community' was a little smarter than
this. Let's not be herd by the marketers of these companies.

What do you think? Spell your guts, it's your turn.

GT





i dont know, you get what you pay for. When i bought my Voodoo5 it cost
£200, i got my FX5800 for £266 and i got my 6800GT for £245 there is a
difference in prices but its not like its gone up by hundreds

What i have noticed though, over the last few years is that the performance
differences between the low end cards and the high end cards is much wider
than it was. Maybe the prices reflect that?

.....then again ive been watching my little sister lay Alice on my spare
Voodoo3 equiped machine and have been commenting on just how smoothly it
plays, i always thought the little card to be a slow clunky thing.