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IBM's PC business up for sale
So I guess it's goodbye comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, and hello
comp.sys.lenovo.pc.hardware.chips? :-) Well, I'm actually kind of surprised that IBM still has a PC business, I thought they got out of them years ago. Yousuf Khan The New York Times Technology I.B.M. Said to Put Its PC Business on the Market http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/03/te...gin&oref=login Here's the full story, if you don't want to register for NYTimes: Quote:
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ykhan wrote:
So I guess it's goodbye comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, and hello comp.sys.lenovo.pc.hardware.chips? :-) Well, I'm actually kind of surprised that IBM still has a PC business, I thought they got out of them years ago. Yousuf Khan The New York Times Technology I.B.M. Said to Put Its PC Business on the Market http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/03/te...gin&oref=login Here's the full story, if you don't want to register for NYTimes: Quote:
I don't think they want to be in businesses they can't dominate. That means semiconductors are next, and then servers (IMHO). Mainframes and services will be the last to go. Then they'll just be a finance company. (again IMHO) -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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CJT Mainframes and services will be the last to go. Then they'll CJT just be a finance company. (again IMHO) American companies are out of the commodity market for anything (pc's are just one of the many), that excludes advertising ;-)). Heck the article that I read stated that all thinkpads and IBM desktop computers are currently made in China anyway. So I guess they have been out of the market for some time. There name brand is all that ibm is selling. Later |
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 12:37:36 -0800, ykhan wrote:
So I guess it's goodbye comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, and hello comp.sys.lenovo.pc.hardware.chips? :-) Nah, let's just go **** off the geeks over on .intel. ;-) Well, I'm actually kind of surprised that IBM still has a PC business, I thought they got out of them years ago. Yousuf, you really haven't been paying attention. You've never heard of a ThinkPad? Sure, they likely *should* have gotten out a decade ago since there hasn't been any money in that market since the year of the flood. ...but they are still in there. snip -- Keith |
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 23:08:31 +0000, CJT wrote:
ykhan wrote: So I guess it's goodbye comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, and hello comp.sys.lenovo.pc.hardware.chips? :-) Well, I'm actually kind of surprised that IBM still has a PC business, I thought they got out of them years ago. snip quotes I don't think they want to be in businesses they can't dominate. C/dominate/make money at/all That means semiconductors are next, and then servers (IMHO). You're on drugs. You don' think there is money in servers? Semicondutors are necessary for servers. TNone of this is changing anytime soon. Mainframes and services will be the last to go. Then they'll just be a finance company. (again IMHO) I want what you're smoking. -- Keith |
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keith wrote:
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 23:08:31 +0000, CJT wrote: ykhan wrote: So I guess it's goodbye comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, and hello comp.sys.lenovo.pc.hardware.chips? :-) Well, I'm actually kind of surprised that IBM still has a PC business, I thought they got out of them years ago. snip quotes I don't think they want to be in businesses they can't dominate. C/dominate/make money at/all I'll stick with "dominate." That means semiconductors are next, and then servers (IMHO). You're on drugs. You don' think there is money in servers? Semicondutors are necessary for servers. TNone of this is changing anytime soon. Give it a few years. You probably would have said the same thing about disk drives. Mainframes and services will be the last to go. Then they'll just be a finance company. (again IMHO) I want what you're smoking. We'll see ... -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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keith wrote:
Yousuf, you really haven't been paying attention. You've never heard of a ThinkPad? Sure, they likely *should* have gotten out a decade ago since there hasn't been any money in that market since the year of the flood. ...but they are still in there. Oh, so you're saying that the Thinkpad T21 that I have is an IBM? :-) Yousuf Khan |
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 04:45:07 +0000, CJT wrote:
keith wrote: On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 23:08:31 +0000, CJT wrote: ykhan wrote: So I guess it's goodbye comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, and hello comp.sys.lenovo.pc.hardware.chips? :-) Well, I'm actually kind of surprised that IBM still has a PC business, I thought they got out of them years ago. snip quotes I don't think they want to be in businesses they can't dominate. C/dominate/make money at/all I'll stick with "dominate." That means semiconductors are next, and then servers (IMHO). You're on drugs. You don' think there is money in servers? Semicondutors are necessary for servers. TNone of this is changing anytime soon. Give it a few years. You probably would have said the same thing about disk drives. Nope. The end for disk drives was written on the wall long before they sold the operation. Density was increasing so fast and the price in free-fall so there wasn't any money to be made there. That didn't happen overnight. The same thing happened to the PC business. Indeed many here show surprise that IBM was still in this business. Mainframes and services will be the last to go. Then they'll just be a finance company. (again IMHO) I want what you're smoking. We'll see ... Are you saying that IBM is losing money on servers? About to lose money? Servers are going to disappear? a meteor is goign to hit Armonk? Sorry, I don't see any parallels here. -- Keith |
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:31:08 -0500, Yousuf Khan wrote:
keith wrote: Yousuf, you really haven't been paying attention. You've never heard of a ThinkPad? Sure, they likely *should* have gotten out a decade ago since there hasn't been any money in that market since the year of the flood. ...but they are still in there. Oh, so you're saying that the Thinkpad T21 that I have is an IBM? :-) Business manufacturing. Perhaps your ThinkPad wasn't made by IBM, but IIRC the 'T' series was designed by IBM (along with the 'A', and 'X'). FWIG the 'R' and 'I' series were OEM all the way. -- Keith |
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ykhan wrote:
So I guess it's goodbye comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips, and hello comp.sys.lenovo.pc.hardware.chips? :-) Well, I'm actually kind of surprised that IBM still has a PC business, I thought they got out of them years ago. Yousuf Khan The New York Times Technology I.B.M. Said to Put Its PC Business on the Market http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/03/te...gin&oref=login Here's an excerpt from an earlier NYTimes article about IBM's PC, one from 1981 when it was introduced with the Charlie Chaplin character advertisement: IBM is expected to pose the stiffest challenge yet to Apple and to Tandy, which together have a 39 percent share of the personal computer market, with sales of $2.4 billion in 1980. "It's one of the most important announcements we've seen in the industry," said Christopher Morgan, editor in chief of Byte, a personal computer magazine. "People will now know that personal computers are not a fad or a flash in the pan," said Michael McConnell, executive vice president of Computerland, a chain of retail stores that will market the new IBM products. And there's also an early review of the first PC: The First IBM PC http://www.darron.net/firstibm.html Yousuf Khan |
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