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8500DV - on restart WinXP h/w auto detect reinstalls old drivers I just removed!!
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Sorry to be so long winded with this. Just hope that someone can assist me in cleaning this up... Having just finished a fresh install of Win XP Pro I downloaded the lastest CATALYST 4.6 display drivers to replace the 2001 drivers (which are pitifully buggy) that Windows update had obtained and installed. The install instructions for 4.6 very specifically states that all the old drivers must be removed before attempting to install the new ones. I carefully followed the instructions which say go to control panel, add/remove programs and remove "ATI display driver". This is the first stumbling block as the ATI display driver isnt in the list. So I went to cp/display/settings/advanced/adaptor/properties/driver and clicked on uninstall driver. All seemed OK but upon restarting, windows XP auto detects "new" hardware and installs the drivers I just removed. I then get caught in a loop of attempting remove and then auto detect reinstalls them! So to hell with it I thought and installed the new drivers anyway. All seems OK except I cant get a res higher than 800x600. Ive got a 19" trinitron monitor which I use at 1152x864, 32bit 100hz referesh on my other install of Win XP ( I multi-boot various incarnations of windows). Why are the ATI drivers and software such a pig to install and work with? Can anyone give me clear instructions on how to completly remove all the ATI software and then do a fresh install of the display drivers and MMC and also explain what order I should install everything in. This is the installation order as I understand it: MS DX9b MS WMEncoder ATI Display Driver ATI DAO MDAC (mmc-9-1-0-0-dao-mdac.exe) ATI DVD encoder (atiCDwiz-v3-0.exe) ATI MMC (mmc-9-1-0-0.exe) Thanks a lot for reading all this and any assistance you may be able to offer. Ian |
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On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:29:34 +0100, "Ian Roberts"
wrote: Hi Sorry to be so long winded with this. Just hope that someone can assist me in cleaning this up... Having just finished a fresh install of Win XP Pro I downloaded the lastest CATALYST 4.6 display drivers to replace the 2001 drivers (which are pitifully buggy) that Windows update had obtained and installed. The install instructions for 4.6 very specifically states that all the old drivers must be removed before attempting to install the new ones. I carefully followed the instructions which say go to control panel, add/remove programs and remove "ATI display driver". This is the first stumbling block as the ATI display driver isnt in the list. So I went to cp/display/settings/advanced/adaptor/properties/driver and clicked on uninstall driver. All seemed OK but upon restarting, windows XP auto detects "new" hardware and installs the drivers I just removed. I then get caught in a loop of attempting remove and then auto detect reinstalls them! So to hell with it I thought and installed the new drivers anyway. All seems OK except I cant get a res higher than 800x600. Ive got a 19" trinitron monitor which I use at 1152x864, 32bit 100hz referesh on my other install of Win XP ( I multi-boot various incarnations of windows). Why are the ATI drivers and software such a pig to install and work with? Can anyone give me clear instructions on how to completly remove all the ATI software and then do a fresh install of the display drivers and MMC and also explain what order I should install everything in. This is the installation order as I understand it: MS DX9b MS WMEncoder ATI Display Driver ATI DAO MDAC (mmc-9-1-0-0-dao-mdac.exe) ATI DVD encoder (atiCDwiz-v3-0.exe) ATI MMC (mmc-9-1-0-0.exe) Thanks a lot for reading all this and any assistance you may be able to offer. Ian It's not the Ati drivers that are the pig here, it's the M$ Update drivers. You should _not_ have installed them. Go to http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/m...lystutils.html and download cat-uninstaller.exe. Now uninstall everything Ati you can and reboot. Run the cat-uninstaller. Hopefully, this will remove the Windows Update driver, too and, if you're lucky, leave your card running on the default VGA driver that it would have been had you not let Windows install the Update driver. If so, (and after reinstalling DX9 to be on the safe side) you should be able to install the Ati driver. Otherwise, you'll probably need to flatten your system and reinstall Windows. This time, do _not_ let Windows install a driver. And do remember to install your chipset drivers and DX9 first. The moral? You just found out - _never_ install Windows Update drivers. patrickp - take five to email me |
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Ian Roberts wrote:
Hi Sorry to be so long winded with this. Just hope that someone can assist me in cleaning this up... Having just finished a fresh install of Win XP Pro I downloaded the lastest CATALYST 4.6 display drivers to replace the 2001 drivers (which are pitifully buggy) that Windows update had obtained and installed. The install instructions for 4.6 very specifically states that all the old drivers must be removed before attempting to install the new ones. I carefully followed the instructions which say go to control panel, add/remove programs and remove "ATI display driver". This is the first stumbling block as the ATI display driver isnt in the list. So I went to cp/display/settings/advanced/adaptor/properties/driver and clicked on uninstall driver. All seemed OK but upon restarting, windows XP auto detects "new" hardware and installs the drivers I just removed. I then get caught in a loop of attempting remove and then auto detect reinstalls them! So to hell with it I thought and installed the new drivers anyway. All seems OK except I cant get a res higher than 800x600. Ive got a 19" trinitron monitor which I use at 1152x864, 32bit 100hz referesh on my other install of Win XP ( I multi-boot various incarnations of windows). Why are the ATI drivers and software such a pig to install and work with? Can anyone give me clear instructions on how to completly remove all the ATI software and then do a fresh install of the display drivers and MMC and also explain what order I should install everything in. This is the installation order as I understand it: MS DX9b MS WMEncoder ATI Display Driver ATI DAO MDAC (mmc-9-1-0-0-dao-mdac.exe) ATI DVD encoder (atiCDwiz-v3-0.exe) ATI MMC (mmc-9-1-0-0.exe) Thanks a lot for reading all this and any assistance you may be able to offer. Ian NEVER use the drivers on windows update, they are OLD by at least six months. All that section of windows update is OPTIONAL anyway. install order for 8500 dv assuming you have dx9 installed and whatever other OS goodies you want already in. wdm drivers do not reboot ati drivers reboot then,,, MMC DVD etc etc reboot as required |
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"Ian Roberts" wrote in message ... Hi Sorry to be so long winded with this. Just hope that someone can assist me in cleaning this up... Having just finished a fresh install of Win XP Pro I downloaded the lastest CATALYST 4.6 display drivers to replace the 2001 drivers (which are pitifully buggy) that Windows update had obtained and installed. The install instructions for 4.6 very specifically states that all the old drivers must be removed before attempting to install the new ones. I carefully followed the instructions which say go to control panel, add/remove programs and remove "ATI display driver". This is the first stumbling block as the ATI display driver isnt in the list. So I went to cp/display/settings/advanced/adaptor/properties/driver and clicked on uninstall driver. All seemed OK but upon restarting, windows XP auto detects "new" hardware and installs the drivers I just removed. I then get caught in a loop of attempting remove and then auto detect reinstalls them! So to hell with it I thought and installed the new drivers anyway. All seems OK except I cant get a res higher than 800x600. Ive got a 19" trinitron monitor which I use at 1152x864, 32bit 100hz referesh on my other install of Win XP ( I multi-boot various incarnations of windows). Why are the ATI drivers and software such a pig to install and work with? Can anyone give me clear instructions on how to completly remove all the ATI software and then do a fresh install of the display drivers and MMC and also explain what order I should install everything in. This is the installation order as I understand it: MS DX9b MS WMEncoder ATI Display Driver ATI DAO MDAC (mmc-9-1-0-0-dao-mdac.exe) ATI DVD encoder (atiCDwiz-v3-0.exe) ATI MMC (mmc-9-1-0-0.exe) Thanks a lot for reading all this and any assistance you may be able to offer. Ian Thanks Guys Thats very clear and helpful. I really appreciate you taking the time to reply. Regards Ian I^) |
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:07:21 +0100, "Ian Roberts"
wrote: Hi Sorry to be so long winded with this. Just hope that someone can assist me in cleaning this up... Having just finished a fresh install of Win XP Pro I downloaded the lastest CATALYST 4.6 display drivers to replace the 2001 drivers (which are pitifully buggy) that Windows update had obtained and installed. The install instructions for 4.6 very specifically states that all the old drivers must be removed before attempting to install the new ones. I carefully followed the instructions which say go to control panel, add/remove programs and remove "ATI display driver". This is the first stumbling block as the ATI display driver isnt in the list. So I went to cp/display/settings/advanced/adaptor/properties/driver and clicked on uninstall driver. All seemed OK but upon restarting, windows XP auto detects "new" hardware and installs the drivers I just removed. I then get caught in a loop of attempting remove and then auto detect reinstalls them! So to hell with it I thought a So,how did you fare, Ian? patrickp - take five to email me |
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I had to trash my 8500DV after upgrading drivers. I started getting red
spots and it went down hill from there. "patrickp" wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:07:21 +0100, "Ian Roberts" wrote: Hi Sorry to be so long winded with this. Just hope that someone can assist me in cleaning this up... Having just finished a fresh install of Win XP Pro I downloaded the lastest CATALYST 4.6 display drivers to replace the 2001 drivers (which are pitifully buggy) that Windows update had obtained and installed. The install instructions for 4.6 very specifically states that all the old drivers must be removed before attempting to install the new ones. I carefully followed the instructions which say go to control panel, add/remove programs and remove "ATI display driver". This is the first stumbling block as the ATI display driver isnt in the list. So I went to cp/display/settings/advanced/adaptor/properties/driver and clicked on uninstall driver. All seemed OK but upon restarting, windows XP auto detects "new" hardware and installs the drivers I just removed. I then get caught in a loop of attempting remove and then auto detect reinstalls them! So to hell with it I thought a So,how did you fare, Ian? patrickp - take five to email me |
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"patrickp" wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:07:21 +0100, "Ian Roberts" wrote: big snip.... So,how did you fare, Ian? patrickp Hi Patrick Thanks for asking. Ive been away on biz so havent had a chance to sort it out yet. I'll be back in touch to let you know once Ive got round to it. Regards Ian |
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