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http://www.redhill.net.au/b/b-93.html From the looks of all MoBo's on that site, the "UMC 386DX-40" is probably the best for my vintage dream PC. My vintage dream PC contains that MoBo along with the following: 1. OS: Windows 3.0 [not 3.0a, just 3.0] 2. Sound Card: SB16 ISA [all accessories -- such as speakers -- included] 3. Most advanced graphics/video card and PC monitor [screen] that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/ hardwares in my vintage dream PC 4. NDW [Norton Desktop for Windows] with Sleeper [screensaver] and batchrun.exe -- "Norton Desktop (Utility Suite) for Windows 3.0", I believe. 5. Canyon.mid [midi file often present with Windows OSes] -- Windows 3.0 version if the song specifically sounds different in 3.0 6. Window Entertainment Pack [including the Idlewild screensaver] 7. Creative Lab's SB16 FM MIDI kit 8. The CD-ROM disk that contains what's described in the following link: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...7ec0bb21f6d19b 9. Three ISA-card modems for the following: A. The 1st modem is to be used similar to a phone. Perhaps to talk over the phone via the PC. It is the most advanced ISA telephone card that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/ hardwares in my vintage dream PC B. The 2nd modem is for dial-up internet access and uses the most advanced ISA dial-up modem that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/hardwares in my vintage dream PC C. The 3rd modem uses the European Deaf Telephone [EDT] protocol and can be used to communicate with the EDT devices in Switzerland. Of course, I'm assuming this even exists for PCs. Most likely, there is no EDT-compatible interface for PCs and even if they were, I doubt they would work with Win 3.0. Hopefully, I'm wrong and EDT does work with Win 3.0 and the PC hardware. Again, this should be the most advanced ISA EDT modem that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/hardwares in my vintage dream PC 10. The most advanced Netscape-based browser the would be compatible with Win 3.0 11. "The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia", Version 1.5, Grolier, Inc. (1992) All of the above should be fully-compatible with the UMC 386DX-40 motherboard. Thanks |
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:26:39 -0800 (PST), GreenXenon
wrote: C. The 3rd modem uses the European Deaf Telephone [EDT] protocol and can be used to communicate with the EDT devices in Switzerland. Of course, I'm assuming this even exists for PCs. Most likely, there is no EDT-compatible interface for PCs and even if they were, I doubt they would work with Win 3.0. Then it seems like a perfect dragon to chase, Mr Quixote. LOL, get back on your meds Radium. |
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"GreenXenon" wrote in message ... Hi: http://www.redhill.net.au/b/b-93.html From the looks of all MoBo's on that site, the "UMC 386DX-40" is probably the best for my vintage dream PC. My vintage dream PC contains that MoBo along with the following: 1. OS: Windows 3.0 [not 3.0a, just 3.0] 2. Sound Card: SB16 ISA [all accessories -- such as speakers -- included] 3. Most advanced graphics/video card and PC monitor [screen] that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/ hardwares in my vintage dream PC 4. NDW [Norton Desktop for Windows] with Sleeper [screensaver] and batchrun.exe -- "Norton Desktop (Utility Suite) for Windows 3.0", I believe. 5. Canyon.mid [midi file often present with Windows OSes] -- Windows 3.0 version if the song specifically sounds different in 3.0 6. Window Entertainment Pack [including the Idlewild screensaver] 7. Creative Lab's SB16 FM MIDI kit 8. The CD-ROM disk that contains what's described in the following link: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...7ec0bb21f6d19b 9. Three ISA-card modems for the following: A. The 1st modem is to be used similar to a phone. Perhaps to talk over the phone via the PC. It is the most advanced ISA telephone card that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/ hardwares in my vintage dream PC B. The 2nd modem is for dial-up internet access and uses the most advanced ISA dial-up modem that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/hardwares in my vintage dream PC C. The 3rd modem uses the European Deaf Telephone [EDT] protocol and can be used to communicate with the EDT devices in Switzerland. Of course, I'm assuming this even exists for PCs. Most likely, there is no EDT-compatible interface for PCs and even if they were, I doubt they would work with Win 3.0. Hopefully, I'm wrong and EDT does work with Win 3.0 and the PC hardware. Again, this should be the most advanced ISA EDT modem that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/hardwares in my vintage dream PC 10. The most advanced Netscape-based browser the would be compatible with Win 3.0 11. "The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia", Version 1.5, Grolier, Inc. (1992) All of the above should be fully-compatible with the UMC 386DX-40 motherboard. Thanks thats not vintage enough..........I was clearing out my fathers garage yesterday and found a 386(1987ish) tower. So decided to take out the HDD before disposal. When I opened it up I just could not see the hard drive, I looked everywhere.............and there it was right in front of my eyes............all 300mm x 200mm x 100mm..........wow. |
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On Jan 19, 9:26 pm, GreenXenon wrote:
Hi: http://www.redhill.net.au/b/b-93.html From the looks of all MoBo's on that site, the "UMC 386DX-40" is probably the best for my vintage dream PC. My vintage dream PC contains that MoBo along with the following: 1. OS: Windows 3.0 [not 3.0a, just 3.0] 2. Sound Card: SB16 ISA [all accessories -- such as speakers -- included] 3. Most advanced graphics/video card and PC monitor [screen] that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/ hardwares in my vintage dream PC 4. NDW [Norton Desktop for Windows] with Sleeper [screensaver] and batchrun.exe -- "Norton Desktop (Utility Suite) for Windows 3.0", I believe. 5. Canyon.mid [midi file often present with Windows OSes] -- Windows 3.0 version if the song specifically sounds different in 3.0 6. Window Entertainment Pack [including the Idlewild screensaver] 7. Creative Lab's SB16 FM MIDI kit 8. The CD-ROM disk that contains what's described in the following link: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...msg/a57ec0bb21... 9. Three ISA-card modems for the following: A. The 1st modem is to be used similar to a phone. Perhaps to talk over the phone via the PC. It is the most advanced ISA telephone card that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/ hardwares in my vintage dream PC B. The 2nd modem is for dial-up internet access and uses the most advanced ISA dial-up modem that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/hardwares in my vintage dream PC C. The 3rd modem uses the European Deaf Telephone [EDT] protocol and can be used to communicate with the EDT devices in Switzerland. Of course, I'm assuming this even exists for PCs. Most likely, there is no EDT-compatible interface for PCs and even if they were, I doubt they would work with Win 3.0. Hopefully, I'm wrong and EDT does work with Win 3.0 and the PC hardware. Again, this should be the most advanced ISA EDT modem that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/hardwares in my vintage dream PC 10. The most advanced Netscape-based browser the would be compatible with Win 3.0 11. "The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia", Version 1.5, Grolier, Inc. (1992) Early memory "sticks" were early options to still extant DRAM "critters" -- 18-pin modules, thumb-seated in banks of 9 to a row, 9th being parity. I'm not sure that present incarnations would earlier on have been called SIMM, either, when memory slots also first coexisted with chipped variants. Then, the modem communications thing wouldn't have been ISA-centric, no indeed, because everybody [that was anybody knew] preferred a serial external modem for state of the art, usually 2400-9600 ranging USR Couriers and a few Paradyne Comspheres later on competing with them. Standards imposed were similarly stated within bragging rights over long-distance connects into Chinopeka, Canada, or Bumfuk, Egypt, respective to and only during severe and most extenuating blizzards and sandstorms. Between a MB, first Intel 386 CPUs, and memory, $900/US is within expectations. An EGA board and monitor, another $600. The Comsphere ran $2000 and Couriers over $1000, with lesser connects at 1200/2400BAUD apropos to masses for $100/200. Single-speed CDs to attract massive storage offerings were at first $1000 until parallel and SCSI offerings entered at $500. An IDE controller could be expected included with the first MFM HDs that superceded prohibitively priced RLLs, at around $300 for 20M, typically for a "SeaSnake" brand. Before that, mostly a bunch of weirdos in public coffee establishments, with thier early Ratshack boxes programming "89 Bottles of Beer on the Wall", desperately seeking circuitous egress into an unwary audience willing to listen to their stories about 10" platters in boxes, and such nonsense not directly related to a workings within NASA or NSA. |
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In alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt GreenXenon wrote:
10. The most advanced Netscape-based browser the would be compatible with Win 3.0 Does that exist? -- The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. -- Bertrand Russell |
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"The Brass Turner" wrote:
thats not vintage enough..........I was clearing out my fathers garage yesterday and found a 386(1987ish) tower. So decided to take out the HDD before disposal. When I opened it up I just could not see the hard drive, I looked everywhere.............and there it was right in front of my eyes............all 300mm x 200mm x 100mm..........wow. I've still got a couple 8086 boxes around here somewhere. Jon |
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GreenXenon wrote:
Hi: http://www.redhill.net.au/b/b-93.html From the looks of all MoBo's on that site, the "UMC 386DX-40" is probably the best for my vintage dream PC. My vintage dream PC contains that MoBo along with the following: 1. OS: Windows 3.0 [not 3.0a, just 3.0] 2. Sound Card: SB16 ISA [all accessories -- such as speakers -- included] 3. Most advanced graphics/video card and PC monitor [screen] that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/ hardwares in my vintage dream PC 4. NDW [Norton Desktop for Windows] with Sleeper [screensaver] and batchrun.exe -- "Norton Desktop (Utility Suite) for Windows 3.0", I believe. 5. Canyon.mid [midi file often present with Windows OSes] -- Windows 3.0 version if the song specifically sounds different in 3.0 6. Window Entertainment Pack [including the Idlewild screensaver] 7. Creative Lab's SB16 FM MIDI kit 8. The CD-ROM disk that contains what's described in the following link: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...7ec0bb21f6d19b 9. Three ISA-card modems for the following: A. The 1st modem is to be used similar to a phone. Perhaps to talk over the phone via the PC. It is the most advanced ISA telephone card that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/ hardwares in my vintage dream PC B. The 2nd modem is for dial-up internet access and uses the most advanced ISA dial-up modem that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/hardwares in my vintage dream PC C. The 3rd modem uses the European Deaf Telephone [EDT] protocol and can be used to communicate with the EDT devices in Switzerland. Of course, I'm assuming this even exists for PCs. Most likely, there is no EDT-compatible interface for PCs and even if they were, I doubt they would work with Win 3.0. Hopefully, I'm wrong and EDT does work with Win 3.0 and the PC hardware. Again, this should be the most advanced ISA EDT modem that would still be compatible with Windows 3.0 and other softwares/hardwares in my vintage dream PC 10. The most advanced Netscape-based browser the would be compatible with Win 3.0 11. "The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia", Version 1.5, Grolier, Inc. (1992) All of the above should be fully-compatible with the UMC 386DX-40 motherboard. Thanks Now where did I put that $300USD Creative Labs Multimedia kit with the SB card and a Sony 2x CD. Oh yeah here it is....made my 386-DX40 into a multimedia computer so I could play 7th Guest! |
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On 2009-01-20, GreenXenon wrote:
http://www.redhill.net.au/b/b-93.html Interesting rewriting of history. The 386DX-40 was never the "standard" chip in the manner that page describes - Intel never bothered with such a chip at all althoug the others certainly did. The 386SX actually had quite a reasonable life: it was a good option for maybe five years until 486's became dominant in 1993-4. From the looks of all MoBo's on that site, the "UMC 386DX-40" is probably the best for my vintage dream PC. My vintage dream PC contains that MoBo along with the following: 1. OS: Windows 3.0 [not 3.0a, just 3.0] 2. Sound Card: SB16 ISA [all accessories -- such as speakers -- included] Now this is contradictory. Windows 3.0 did not include multimedia support. To get that you had to install the Multimedia Extensions. From memory that was the same upgrade that updated the version to 3.0a. For the same reason, you won't get canyon.mid in plain 3.0. -- Andrew Smallshaw |
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In alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt Andrew Smallshaw wrote:
On 2009-01-20, wrote: In alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt GreenXenon wrote: 10. The most advanced Netscape-based browser the would be compatible with Win 3.0 Does that exist? Sure. You need a winsock but there's no big problem with that. I would have thought many on this group would first have gone online with Windows 3.x and Netscape. I thought that it was still Mosaic at that point, and that Win95 came out before Netscape. But I guess now that I think about it, I WAS using 3.1 with Netscape. It was so cool that the page would start to appear before the entire thng downloaded! And then came the progressive-loading GIFs. At that point, we stopped cursing pages that had pictures in addition to text. My ISP had a T1 line, and their tech guy nvited me in to watch a web page download at an amazing 2 Mb/Second or whatever it was. And Usenet was in its golden era... -- The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. -- Bertrand Russell |
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