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  #11  
Old October 6th 04, 01:37 AM
Brenden D. Chase
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With all these people saying its your power supply, here is an easy
test... unplug everything except what you need to boot up your computer
and play a game (ie harddisk, mouse, keyboard, monitor, CD/DVD drive)
Then start up the game... if you get the same problem while sucking less
juice from the PSU then you know its not the PSU.

--Brenden

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Old October 6th 04, 01:55 AM
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"Brenden D. Chase" wrote in message
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1)Now here is what I think. Does Nvidia need to update the drivers
because of the effects of SP2 with my card.


What effect did SP2 have on your card??? I've updated to it and dont
notice any difference in my card, i've got BFG 6800 GT OC

2) So i need a more
powerful power supply. I have a 350W right now which from looking
online is just not enough.


350 is probably not enough

3)Do I need to buy that Arctic Cooling VGA
Cooler Model "NV silencer 5" to replace the **** fan that is one the
6800 GT right now.


maybe you should have bought that before you decided to overclock it??

4)Lastly I am getting weird power surges from my
house. and being the stupid person that I am right now. I do not have
a proper power supply to combat the surges. Which I am sure may
account for something. Any info or webpages would be of great help in
dealing with these issues. It's just annoying when you drop 400+ plus
for these things and it's starting to biff on you. By the way it's
only 2 months old. I have the latest drivers for everything. Did I
mention that I think SP2 is a sick joke from Microsoft!

thanks again




You should have spent the money on a surge protector... which by the way i
dont think powersupplies surge protect on there own, but i welcome anyone
who can inform me on that.

I dont know what your problems are with SP2, but i dont have any.

--Brenden


350W PSU may or may not cut it. It really boil down to what you have or NET
total components in your PC that your PSU need to drive it. The more
components, it will tax more on your PSU and how it can handle which also
depend on it quality component use by the maker / manufacturer.
Taking 300W [name brand] and 350W [cheapy version]
300W PSU may or can handle fully loaded and OC MoBo and Graphic board.
But....
350W PSU fail with the same almost fully load PC and non-OC.

As for SP2.
I do not seem to see problem or big issue with SP2 since I update and or
install it everyday. Yes. EVERYDAY. The only SP2 issue I see when a PC come
in for service.

CapFusion,...


  #13  
Old October 6th 04, 05:23 AM
jahindie
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Thanks everyone for the feedback. I will buy a power supply and see if
that works. I agree with Cap on this one. Sense it wouldn't hurt to
buy a new PSU. I am trying to narrow it down to see. So if the power
supply fails I will get the cooler for the card. From the feedback
over at [H]ardOCP Forum's. They are saying the same thing. But also
they said that the fan for the Graphics Card wouldn't hurt as well. I
will let you know what happens.

again thanks for the help and GO KERRY!!!


"CapFusion" wrote in message ...
"PurSpyk!!" wrote in message
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Hi

I don't believe it is the power supply.

I have a generic psu that came with my case rated at 300w, my GeForce 6800
GT (LeadTek) is overclocked to 420, 1150 on stock cooling.

I have a P4 3.4, 1MB RAM, 2 western digital hard drivers, USB scanner
(gets
power through USB cable), DVD rom, CD writer, 19" monitor.

I have no problems running Far Cry or Doom 3 all at max settings. The card
does get quite hot though, Summer has just started here in Cape Town,
South
Africa.


Sir, your 300W PSU maybe working fine and handling your PC requirement. But
can you really say for sure of his 350W can handle the way your 300W PSU
handle your PC?

The only way to find out if he try to narrow the source of the cause.

CapFusion,...

  #14  
Old October 6th 04, 07:58 AM
Chip
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"Brenden D. Chase" wrote in message
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With all these people saying its your power supply, here is an easy
test... unplug everything except what you need to boot up your computer
and play a game (ie harddisk, mouse, keyboard, monitor, CD/DVD drive) Then
start up the game... if you get the same problem while sucking less juice
from the PSU then you know its not the PSU.

--Brenden


A good idea, except that it may not reveal the problem. A P4 at 3 GHz might
easily be consuming 70w and the GF6800 overclocked could take up to perhaps
120w. At 12v that's 16A, without anything else plugged in! So it might
fail even with everything else disconnected.

Chip


  #15  
Old October 6th 04, 09:42 AM
Bronney Hui
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J,

Just a thing to add in case it helps. I am not sure but I remember JC the
man says something about how doom 3 doesn't like out of spec video cards.

I used to run my GF3 Ti200 at 214/486 (stock 175/400) ever since I got it.
Any higher would result in artifacts. At this speed, only EA Tigerwoods and
MOHAA exhibits minimal artifacts.

When I got doom 3 and played at this speed, there were artifacts all over
the place down to the menu since it's rendered. There was so much it was
unplayable. Same thing with FarCry, and CoD. I had to tune it back down to
204/472 for all artifacts to go away.

1. I had SP2 installed and it didn't cause artifacts. Though mine wasn't
6800. I've since did a reformat and don't have SP2 anymore.

2. Since it looks like you're getting a new PSU anyway, I won't bother you
with that. There're 3 brands that come to mind: Antec
http://www.antec.com/us/pro_powerSupply.html, GTR
http://www.gtr.com.hk/new-subpage/pr...ge.htm#ar300/b
(Hong Kong), 2theMAX http://www.2themax.com/ (Taiwan). They're great My
current is my second 2themax with 3 separated outputs. The last one blown
cuz of a power surge + humid weather (98% all summer in hong kong), the caps
leaked.

My current one is the 2themax HE-370 Pro with 3 fans.. the components I have
a
asus p4p800se
p4-2.8c @ 3.06
2x corsair vs cl2.5 512MB sticks
hercules 3d prophet 3 gf3 ti200 64MB
maxtor quantum fireball ultra 100 7200rpm 40 gig
hitachi ibm ultra 100 7200rpm 80 gig
hitachi gd-2500 cheap **** 4x dvdrom (HEY! all regions
panasonic grandpa 4x cdr
sound blaster live! x-gamer
realtek 8139 nic

usb devices plugged in:
logitech wingman formula force gt
2x cheap **** made in china ps2 style joypads
logitech quickcam express old
wacom graphire 3 tablet

Will see how it goes when I plug in the 6600 gt this weekend The PSU's
rated at 440W max.

3. When I experimented with Core vs. Mem. timing, I noticed that most
artifacts came from the memory. Adding a fancy fan for the core might not
help at all.

4. Having a good UPS's a good idea. But a good quality PSU should protect
you by just burning out the fuse and not the unit. Having a bad PSU during
powersurge could burn your mobo.

-bron

"jahindie" ???
m ???...
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I will buy a power supply and see if
that works. I agree with Cap on this one. Sense it wouldn't hurt to
buy a new PSU. I am trying to narrow it down to see. So if the power
supply fails I will get the cooler for the card. From the feedback
over at [H]ardOCP Forum's. They are saying the same thing. But also
they said that the fan for the Graphics Card wouldn't hurt as well. I
will let you know what happens.

again thanks for the help and GO KERRY!!!


"CapFusion" wrote in message

...
"PurSpyk!!" wrote in message
...
Hi

I don't believe it is the power supply.

I have a generic psu that came with my case rated at 300w, my GeForce

6800
GT (LeadTek) is overclocked to 420, 1150 on stock cooling.

I have a P4 3.4, 1MB RAM, 2 western digital hard drivers, USB scanner
(gets
power through USB cable), DVD rom, CD writer, 19" monitor.

I have no problems running Far Cry or Doom 3 all at max settings. The

card
does get quite hot though, Summer has just started here in Cape Town,
South
Africa.


Sir, your 300W PSU maybe working fine and handling your PC requirement.

But
can you really say for sure of his 350W can handle the way your 300W PSU
handle your PC?

The only way to find out if he try to narrow the source of the cause.

CapFusion,...



  #16  
Old October 6th 04, 10:59 AM
Chip
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"jahindie" wrote in message
m...
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I will buy a power supply and see if
that works. I agree with Cap on this one. Sense it wouldn't hurt to
buy a new PSU. I am trying to narrow it down to see. So if the power
supply fails I will get the cooler for the card. From the feedback
over at [H]ardOCP Forum's. They are saying the same thing. But also
they said that the fan for the Graphics Card wouldn't hurt as well. I
will let you know what happens.

again thanks for the help and GO KERRY!!!


Who? Oh, you must live on that large island west of the Atlantic. Not
everyone in the world does, you know ;-)

Anyway, since you are going to buy a new PSU, can I put in a strong vote for
the OCZ Powerstream PSU.

I have owned Sparkle, Enermax, Antec and now Globalwin (which is quite good
actually). But without a shadow of a doubt, the OCZ is in a different
league to all of the above. Its MILES better. I wish I owned one and if I
was buying again, this is definitely what I would buy.

The only thing that can touch the OCZ is the PC Power & Cooling PSU, but
that is a lot more money.

Seriously, don't go for the Antec of Enermax (or Forton) that everyone
recommends. The OCZ is so much better. Read the reviews!

Chip

"CapFusion" wrote in message
...
"PurSpyk!!" wrote in message
...
Hi

I don't believe it is the power supply.

I have a generic psu that came with my case rated at 300w, my GeForce
6800
GT (LeadTek) is overclocked to 420, 1150 on stock cooling.

I have a P4 3.4, 1MB RAM, 2 western digital hard drivers, USB scanner
(gets
power through USB cable), DVD rom, CD writer, 19" monitor.

I have no problems running Far Cry or Doom 3 all at max settings. The
card
does get quite hot though, Summer has just started here in Cape Town,
South
Africa.


Sir, your 300W PSU maybe working fine and handling your PC requirement.
But
can you really say for sure of his 350W can handle the way your 300W PSU
handle your PC?

The only way to find out if he try to narrow the source of the cause.

CapFusion,...



  #17  
Old October 6th 04, 11:00 AM
Chip
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Forgot the URL!

http://tinyurl.com/6yswp


"Chip" wrote in message
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"jahindie" wrote in message
m...
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I will buy a power supply and see if
that works. I agree with Cap on this one. Sense it wouldn't hurt to
buy a new PSU. I am trying to narrow it down to see. So if the power
supply fails I will get the cooler for the card. From the feedback
over at [H]ardOCP Forum's. They are saying the same thing. But also
they said that the fan for the Graphics Card wouldn't hurt as well. I
will let you know what happens.

again thanks for the help and GO KERRY!!!


Who? Oh, you must live on that large island west of the Atlantic. Not
everyone in the world does, you know ;-)

Anyway, since you are going to buy a new PSU, can I put in a strong vote
for the OCZ Powerstream PSU.

I have owned Sparkle, Enermax, Antec and now Globalwin (which is quite
good actually). But without a shadow of a doubt, the OCZ is in a
different league to all of the above. Its MILES better. I wish I owned
one and if I was buying again, this is definitely what I would buy.

The only thing that can touch the OCZ is the PC Power & Cooling PSU, but
that is a lot more money.

Seriously, don't go for the Antec of Enermax (or Forton) that everyone
recommends. The OCZ is so much better. Read the reviews!

Chip

"CapFusion" wrote in message
...
"PurSpyk!!" wrote in message
...
Hi

I don't believe it is the power supply.

I have a generic psu that came with my case rated at 300w, my GeForce
6800
GT (LeadTek) is overclocked to 420, 1150 on stock cooling.

I have a P4 3.4, 1MB RAM, 2 western digital hard drivers, USB scanner
(gets
power through USB cable), DVD rom, CD writer, 19" monitor.

I have no problems running Far Cry or Doom 3 all at max settings. The
card
does get quite hot though, Summer has just started here in Cape Town,
South
Africa.


Sir, your 300W PSU maybe working fine and handling your PC requirement.
But
can you really say for sure of his 350W can handle the way your 300W PSU
handle your PC?

The only way to find out if he try to narrow the source of the cause.

CapFusion,...





  #18  
Old October 6th 04, 05:23 PM
Chip
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"jahindie" wrote in message
m...
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I will buy a power supply and see if
that works. I agree with Cap on this one. Sense it wouldn't hurt to
buy a new PSU.


Having raved so strongly about OCZ Powerstream PSU's in my other 2 posts, I
re-read some of the reviews. Bad idea really. I decided I had to have one
so 10 minutes ago I bought one myself.

Now I just need to decide what to do with my Globalwin SAP Saphire 520w!
Hmmmmmm.

Chip


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Old October 6th 04, 07:10 PM
CapFusion
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"@ndrew" andrewratinternodedotondotnet wrote in message
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Brenden D. Chase wrote:

With all these people saying its your power supply, here is an easy
test... unplug everything except what you need to boot up your
computer and play a game (ie harddisk, mouse, keyboard, monitor,
CD/DVD drive) Then start up the game... if you get the same problem
while sucking less juice from the PSU then you know its not the PSU.



Much easier to go he

http://tinyurl.com/24zoz



That is a nice link. It just an estimate or general idea / ballpak but
should not take it as a true answer.

CapFusion,...


  #20  
Old October 7th 04, 11:27 AM
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CapFusion wrote:


"@ndrew" andrewratinternodedotondotnet wrote in message
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Brenden D. Chase wrote:

With all these people saying its your power supply, here is an easy
test... unplug everything except what you need to boot up your
computer and play a game (ie harddisk, mouse, keyboard, monitor,
CD/DVD drive) Then start up the game... if you get the same problem
while sucking less juice from the PSU then you know its not the

PSU.


Much easier to go he

http://tinyurl.com/24zoz



That is a nice link. It just an estimate or general idea / ballpak
but should not take it as a true answer.

CapFusion,...




It is pretty accurate ... however what it does not do is factor in load
to the equation. Take the end figure it gives you and add 10% is my
best guesstimate on correct power supply requirements.

regards

@ndrew

 




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