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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 03:05:56 GMT, "teqguy" wrote:
ec wrote: "Destroy" wrote in message ... And how much did nVidia pay Activison/id for the Doom 3 deal? I've heard 4-5 million. Gwarsch! Carmack has sold out to nVidia!! He's deh devil!! He also seems to be in bed with Intel. His engines always run better on nonAMD systems. That's because AMD sucks ass. I'll take SSE2 over 3DNOW! any day.... I mean, come on people... give it up... 3dNow's optimizations are now INCLUDED on most GPU's. 3dNow only aided older cards that didn't have the bandwidth to match the processor. Now, the GPU's are outperforming the CPU, so it's entirely unnecessary. AMD should definitely update this instruction set... if they did they'd be god. Imagine a processor with Pixel Shader 3.0, bump mapping, vertex shading... drool Um, you do know the Athlon64 supports SSE2, right? |
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Yeah, that Athlon64's really a dog, compared to the highly successful
and desirable Prescwatt, and the easily-obtainable Emergency ^H^H^H^H^H^H^ Extreme Edition. It's not like most benchmarks show the Athlon64 to have better performance *and* lower power consumption/heat issues. And, who would want a CPU that already supports the next generation of operating systems, when you could get an Intel 32-bit-only CPU? A lot of good the 64 bit CPU does,there are no 64 bit applications that will work with it. Everything it does is 32 bit. Unless you count bench marks............yea thats it build a computer to run bench marks. |
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Carmack announced:
"As DOOM 3 development winds to a close, my work has turned to development of the next generation rendering technology. The NV40 is my platform of choice due to its support of very long fragment programs, generalized floating point blending and filtering, and the extremely high performance," said John Carmack, president and technical director of id Software When Carmack speaketh, the world stands still and the games will stutter. |
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He also seems to be in bed with Intel. His engines always run better on
nonAMD systems. Because SSE is mysteriously disabled in Q3 engined games when run on AMD CPU's. Exactly. To be fair, the SSE-enabled AthlonXP did not exist when Q3 was first programmed, and you can't blame Carmack for not wishing to revisit old code. There's a good chance he used a no doubt convenient Intel compiler instruction that tests for the presence of an Intel cpu, rather than actually test for SSE itself. rms |
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"John Lewis" wrote in message
So, better start saving now for the 6800U ??? And power-supply. Might as well just get a new case and power supply of the style with the fan (hopefully quiet) in the middle of the cover and close to the 6800U......... John Lewis Before the R420 previews are even out? Nope. John |
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 03:05:56 +0000, teqguy wrote:
I'll take SSE2 over 3DNOW! any day.... SSE2 is 2nd generation SIMD instructions, 3DNow is first generation and were the first FP SIMD instructions ever used on a CPU. You're comparing old and new. Besides, all AMD64 CPUs support SSE2 anyway. K |
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"John Lewis" wrote in message
... From the nVidia news release:- "As DOOM 3 development winds to a close, my work has turned to development of the next generation rendering technology. The NV40 is my platform of choice due to its support of very long fragment programs, generalized floating point blending and filtering, and the extremely high performance," said John Carmack, president and technical director of id Software -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- Here is another John Carmack quote: "The G-Force 3 is going to be THE card to run our next game, Doom3!" |
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:52:07 -0400, "Zimmy" wrote:
||"John Lewis" wrote in message ... || From the nVidia news release:- || || "As DOOM 3 development winds to a close, my work has turned to || development of the next generation rendering technology. The NV40 is || my platform of choice due to its support of very long fragment || programs, generalized floating point blending and filtering, and the || extremely high performance," said John Carmack, president and || technical director of id Software || -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ||----------------------------- || ||Here is another John Carmack quote: || ||"The G-Force 3 is going to be THE card to run our next game, Doom3!" || I don't care what Carmack or Sweeny say about video cards folks... they are in bed together.. so its invalid. I'll let the specs and head to head reviews make my decisions for me thank you. Use your heads guys.. Actually I was rather amused to see the preview at HardOCP (http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjA2). The performance is now-where near where I expected. 10-15 fps better then the ATI 9800 XT is a joke. Of course I expect the 3rd party companies to juice up the card a bit. We'll see.. but my money is on ATI for retaining the crown this next generation. Pluvious |
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"Pluvious" wrote in message
... On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:52:07 -0400, "Zimmy" wrote: ||"John Lewis" wrote in message ... || From the nVidia news release:- || || "As DOOM 3 development winds to a close, my work has turned to || development of the next generation rendering technology. The NV40 is || my platform of choice due to its support of very long fragment || programs, generalized floating point blending and filtering, and the || extremely high performance," said John Carmack, president and || technical director of id Software || ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ||----------------------------- || ||Here is another John Carmack quote: || ||"The G-Force 3 is going to be THE card to run our next game, Doom3!" || I don't care what Carmack or Sweeny say about video cards folks... they are in bed together.. so its invalid. I'll let the specs and head to head reviews make my decisions for me thank you. Use your heads guys.. Actually I was rather amused to see the preview at HardOCP (http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjA2). The performance is now-where near where I expected. 10-15 fps better then the ATI 9800 XT is a joke. Of course I expect the 3rd party companies to juice up the card a bit. We'll see.. but my money is on ATI for retaining the crown this next generation. Pluvious Yes, but note how HardOCP test - with different settings for different cards for many of the tests. Look here for a case of a doubling of performance: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2023&p=13 -- Derek |
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:06:11 GMT, "John Reynolds"
wrote: "John Lewis" wrote in message So, better start saving now for the 6800U ??? And power-supply. Might as well just get a new case and power supply of the style with the fan (hopefully quiet) in the middle of the cover and close to the 6800U......... John Lewis Before the R420 previews are even out? Nope. Ah, and at your age, I was rather hoping that a residual spark of true adventure still existed...... As for me, when I can afford it, the 6800U, regardless of the X800 --- not only for the graphics power, but the very powerful VPU and the strong likelihood that it will perform excellently with both current and my classic-legacy software, just as my current FX5900/56.72 does. Excluding Glide games, of course. My second machine has a V5 5500 with Win Me just for that purpose. John Lewis John |
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