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NV40 ~ GeForce 6800 specs
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http://frankenstein.evilgeniuslabs.c...nv40/news.html Tuesday, April 13, 2004 NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GPU family officially announced — Cormac @ 17:00 It's time to officially introduce the new GPU generation from NVIDIA and shed the light on its architecture and features. So, the GeForce 6800 GPU family, codenamed NV40, today officially entered the distribution stage. Initially it will include two chips, GeForce 6800 Ultra and GeForce 6800, with the same architecture. These are the key innovations introduced in NVIDIA's novelties: *16-pipeline superscalar architecture with 6 vertex modules, DDR3 support and *real 32-bit pipelines *PCI Express x16, AGP 8x support *222 million transistors *400MHz core clock *Chips made by IBM *0.13µm process 40x40mm FCBGA (flip-chip ball grid array) package ForceWare 60+ series Supports 256-bit GDDR3 with over 550MHz (1.1GHz DDR) clock rates NVIDIA CineFX 3.0 supporting Pixel Shader 3.0, Vertex Shader 3.0; real-time Displacement Mapping and Tone Mapping; up to 16 textures/pass, 16-bit and 32-bit FP formats, sRGB textures, DirectX and S3TC compression; 32bpp, 64bpp and 128bpp rendering; lots of new visual effects NVIDIA HPDR (High-Precision Dynamic-Range) on OpenEXR technology supporting FP filtering, texturing, blending and AA Intellisample 3.0 for extended 16xAA, improved compression performance; HCT (High-resolution compression), new lossless compression algorithms for colors, textures and Z buffer in all modes, including hi-res high-frequency, fast Z buffer clear NVIDIA UltraShadow II for 4 times the performance in highly shadowed games (e.g. Doom III) comparing to older GPUs Extended temperature monitoring and management features Extended display and video output features, including int. videoprocessor, hardware MPEG decoder, WMV9 accelerator, adaptive deinterlacing, video signal scaling and filtering, int. NTSC/PAL decoder (up to 1024x768), Macrovision copy protection; DVD/HDTV to MPEG2 decoding at up to 1920x1080i; dual int. 400MHz RAMDAC for up to 2048x1536 @ 85Hz; 2 x DVO for external TMDS transmitters and TV decoders; Microsoft Video Mixing Renderer (VMR); VIP 1.1 (video input); NVIDIA nView NVIDIA Digital Vibrance Control (DVC) 3.0 for color and image clarity management Supports Windows XP/ME/2000/9X; MacOS, Linux Supports the latest DirectX 9.0, OpenGL 1.5 http://frankenstein.evilgeniuslabs.c..._files/nv3.png We have almost received a GeForce 6800 sample, so it's still early to speak of GPU power consumption. Though a giant core with 222 million transistors imply some high appetite for power. At least NVIDIA recommends testers to use 480W and over power supplies. By the way, GeForce 6800 Ultra reference cards will occupy two standard slots. However, it's not obligatory for all vendors, so we might see single-slot models as well. Well, having seen the GPU, we now have to wait a bit for its test results. Please be patient, we are going to publish the respective article in the nearest future. Ending this news I'll mention NVIDIA partners that will support the new release by solutions on it. They are Albatron, AOpen, ASUSTeK Computer, Chaintech, Gainward, Leadtek Research, MSI, Palit Microsystems, PNY Technologies, Prolink Computer, Shuttle and XFX Technologies. http://frankenstein.evilgeniuslabs.c...nv40/news.html quote: "8 shader units per pipeline and 16 pipelines..." http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11484 |
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K wrote:
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:56:48 +0100, Shep© wrote: *PCI Express x16, AGP 8x support Looks like new mother boards required? If there is AGP 8x support, why would you need a new motherboard? K Because most well known manufacturers will eventually stop carrying AGP cards all together. If you're into business at all, you know that it's more cost effective to produce one version of a product than two... unless you're Microsoft or Donald Trump (aka God). The voltages on PCI-E and AGP are entirely different, so different components (such as resistors) must be used. In order to avoid confusion between the two, you'd have to hire two different production lines, have twice as many labs, and pay for two types of packaging, manuals, etc. Having one version of a product cuts down on confusion and returns, which helps both consumers and retail sales. |
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:56:48 +0100, Shep© wrote:
*PCI Express x16, AGP 8x support Looks like new mother boards required? If there is AGP 8x support, why would you need a new motherboard? K |
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"teqguy" wrote in news:uI_ec.26606$F9.15486
@nwrddc01.gnilink.net: K wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:56:48 +0100, Shep© wrote: If there is AGP 8x support, why would you need a new motherboard? K Because most well known manufacturers will eventually stop carrying AGP cards all together. The thing is, we've had AGP slots out for over 5 years now, and yet you still find vendors making PCI video cards. So I wouldn't be too worried about any lack of AGP video cards for some time to come. They'll be around long enough to follow any of the current motherboards into obsolescence, at which point you wouldn't want to be buying a video card or any other upgrade for them anyways. |
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:28:26 +0000, teqguy wrote:
Because most well known manufacturers will eventually stop carrying AGP cards all together. Eventually, yes, but AGP will be with us well into next year. DDR2 will replace DDR1. Socket 939 will replace socket 940, Socket T will replace Socket 728, BTX will eventually replace ATX, the list goes on in the never ending upgrade cycle. Having one version of a product cuts down on confusion and returns, which helps both consumers and retail sales. Absolutely, and I'm sure that the likes of ATI and Nvidia as well as the motherboard makers will push us to PCI Express as soon as they can. But it would be suicide for one of them to bring out a new card and only cater for those who are prepared to buy new motherboards. It's just the poster I replied to implied that there would be an immediate need to replace your motherboard, which is clearly not the case. I have a gut feeling that PCI Express will do very little for performance, just like AGP before it. Nothing can substitute lots of fast RAM on the videocard to prevent shipping textures across to the much slower system RAM. You could have the fastest interface imaginable for your vid card; it would do little to make up for the bottleneck that is your main memory. K |
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 00:10:26 +0000 As truth resonates honesty K
wrote : On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:56:48 +0100, Shep© wrote: *PCI Express x16, AGP 8x support Looks like new mother boards required? If there is AGP 8x support, why would you need a new motherboard? K Because it's my understanding that although the new protocol/cards support AGP 8X this is merely a data rate comparison and the new cards will only fit a,"PCI-Express" slot,not an AGP one. http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1087 HTH -- Free Windows/PC help, http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html email shepATpartyheld.de Free songs to download and,"BURN" :O) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm |
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"NV55" wrote in message
m... the following is ALL quote: Regardless of if someone wants the new high-end nVidia or ATI product, I've read that a person better have a monster power supply and excellent case cooling before even considering such cards. I also wonder how loud the fans on these new cards are going to need to be. It'd be interesting to see what they can do with regards to cooling and power consumption on future video cards too - I see this as getting to be more and more of a problem with time. |
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NightSky 421 wrote:
"NV55" wrote in message m... the following is ALL quote: Regardless of if someone wants the new high-end nVidia or ATI product, I've read that a person better have a monster power supply and excellent case cooling before even considering such cards. I also wonder how loud the fans on these new cards are going to need to be. It'd be interesting to see what they can do with regards to cooling and power consumption on future video cards too - I see this as getting to be more and more of a problem with time. The power consumption should stay below 15v. The Geforce FX does NOT use the 12v rail, for anyone wondering. All 4 pins are connected for potential usage, but the overall consumption never raises above 5.5v so 17v is not neccessary. Most companies are starting to push for water cooling. Gainward is one of them that announced they are going to start shipping a version of their cards that have a waterblock in place of a conventional heatsink and fan. As far as the reference Nvidia cards go... I'm pretty sure we'll start out with the dustbuster again... at least until someone can decide on a more effective method. Solid silver heatsink anyone? =P |
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K wrote:
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 23:28:26 +0000, teqguy wrote: Because most well known manufacturers will eventually stop carrying AGP cards all together. Eventually, yes, but AGP will be with us well into next year. DDR2 will replace DDR1. Socket 939 will replace socket 940, Socket T will replace Socket 728, BTX will eventually replace ATX, the list goes on in the never ending upgrade cycle. Having one version of a product cuts down on confusion and returns, which helps both consumers and retail sales. Absolutely, and I'm sure that the likes of ATI and Nvidia as well as the motherboard makers will push us to PCI Express as soon as they can. But it would be suicide for one of them to bring out a new card and only cater for those who are prepared to buy new motherboards. It's just the poster I replied to implied that there would be an immediate need to replace your motherboard, which is clearly not the case. I have a gut feeling that PCI Express will do very little for performance, just like AGP before it. Nothing can substitute lots of fast RAM on the videocard to prevent shipping textures across to the much slower system RAM. You could have the fastest interface imaginable for your vid card; it would do little to make up for the bottleneck that is your main memory. K Current high end graphics cards do very little with an AGP 4x bus, let alone an 8x bus. The best possible optimization that could ever be made, would be to start manufacturing motherboards with sockets for a GPU and either sockets or slots for video memory. This would allow for motherboards to potentially reduce in size, while increasing in performance and upgradability. The price would increase, but it would be worth it. |
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