If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
"Ethical" Printer?
I've just junked yet another inkjet printer for parts (PSU mainly) and, as
with the last one I see that there is more ink in the silicone tubes that go to the waste sponge and dried into the sponge itself than ever went onto paper during the ~2 years and ~3 sets of carts. How do they get away with this? It was a Canon FWIW. I'm very not-rich and only need to print maybe once a month or so, usually text-only (but 'documents' often have colour borders etc.). Any suggestions for something affordable that will likely be good in the medium / long term? (I strongly dislike built-in obsolescence.) All the best for 2018 to the people reading this group. Sorry if this post is OT for this group. -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*." David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
"Ethical" Printer?
~misfit~ wrote:
I've just junked yet another inkjet printer for parts (PSU mainly) and, as with the last one I see that there is more ink in the silicone tubes that go to the waste sponge and dried into the sponge itself than ever went onto paper during the ~2 years and ~3 sets of carts. How do they get away with this? It was a Canon FWIW. I'm very not-rich and only need to print maybe once a month or so, usually text-only (but 'documents' often have colour borders etc.). Any suggestions for something affordable that will likely be good in the medium / long term? (I strongly dislike built-in obsolescence.) All the best for 2018 to the people reading this group. Sorry if this post is OT for this group. The public library prints for $0.05 or %0.10 a sheet :-) That's a pretty good deal in my book. If your print volume per year is minuscule and predictable (tax forms for archive), that might be good enough. It would take a bit more volume to justify a color laser, and those probably aren't as saturated as your inkjet with proper (coated) paper would be. Paul |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
"Ethical" Printer?
Once upon a time on usenet Paul wrote:
~misfit~ wrote: I've just junked yet another inkjet printer for parts (PSU mainly) and, as with the last one I see that there is more ink in the silicone tubes that go to the waste sponge and dried into the sponge itself than ever went onto paper during the ~2 years and ~3 sets of carts. How do they get away with this? It was a Canon FWIW. I'm very not-rich and only need to print maybe once a month or so, usually text-only (but 'documents' often have colour borders etc.). Any suggestions for something affordable that will likely be good in the medium / long term? (I strongly dislike built-in obsolescence.) All the best for 2018 to the people reading this group. Sorry if this post is OT for this group. The public library prints for $0.05 or %0.10 a sheet :-) That's a pretty good deal in my book. If your print volume per year is minuscule and predictable (tax forms for archive), that might be good enough. It would take a bit more volume to justify a color laser, and those probably aren't as saturated as your inkjet with proper (coated) paper would be. Paul Thanks Paul. I'm not close to a public library and last I heard here in New Zealand they'll only copy, not print. I'll double-check when next I'm near one. I print out about 25 pages a year so I suppose I'll carry on buying cheap inkjets and putting them in landfill after about 18 - 24 months (much as I hate that). I mean I really hate that but it works out at about $2 a page if I buy clearace last years model printers with 'starter cartridges'. Even if I could get prints for $0.05 from a library it would cost me over $5 to go there and I have no other reason to. Cheers, -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*." David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
"Ethical" Printer?
"~misfit~" wrote in message
news I've just junked yet another inkjet printer for parts (PSU mainly) and, as with the last one I see that there is more ink in the silicone tubes that go to the waste sponge and dried into the sponge itself than ever went onto paper during the ~2 years and ~3 sets of carts. How do they get away with this? It was a Canon FWIW. I'm very not-rich and only need to print maybe once a month or so, usually text-only (but 'documents' often have colour borders etc.). Any suggestions for something affordable that will likely be good in the medium / long term? (I strongly dislike built-in obsolescence.) All the best for 2018 to the people reading this group. Sorry if this post is OT for this group. -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*." David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) I've been using an HP Photosmart color inkjet for a decade. When I was using it less frequently, I cursed the cost. Now I use it more frequently it seems to be cost effective. Over a decade, the driver software may have improved. Likewise, I use a B/W Samsung Laser/Scanner, even older. It was getting so decrepit, that I ordered the renewal kit for the take up rollers. Now I've been using it more, there are no problems. I've had no need to install the renewal kit. Maintenance is another issue. Lesson: use it or lose it. |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
"Ethical" Printer?
Once upon a time on usenet Norm X wrote:
"~misfit~" wrote in message news I've just junked yet another inkjet printer for parts (PSU mainly) and, as with the last one I see that there is more ink in the silicone tubes that go to the waste sponge and dried into the sponge itself than ever went onto paper during the ~2 years and ~3 sets of carts. How do they get away with this? It was a Canon FWIW. I'm very not-rich and only need to print maybe once a month or so, usually text-only (but 'documents' often have colour borders etc.). Any suggestions for something affordable that will likely be good in the medium / long term? (I strongly dislike built-in obsolescence.) All the best for 2018 to the people reading this group. Sorry if this post is OT for this group. -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*." David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) I've been using an HP Photosmart color inkjet for a decade. When I was using it less frequently, I cursed the cost. Now I use it more frequently it seems to be cost effective. Over a decade, the driver software may have improved. Likewise, I use a B/W Samsung Laser/Scanner, even older. It was getting so decrepit, that I ordered the renewal kit for the take up rollers. Now I've been using it more, there are no problems. I've had no need to install the renewal kit. Maintenance is another issue. Lesson: use it or lose it. That seems to be the theme - use it or lose it. When I was computer naive back in the early 1990s I bought a B&W laser printer with my first ever PC (I was using an Amiga and dot matrix before that). However it turned out the printer was a win-printer (Winstar?) and not only would it only work with Windows (3.1 then) but they stopped supplying drivers for it after about Win 95. That damn thing cost me close to a grand in NZ money (maybe US$650) and still had heaps of toner when I dumped it. So throw-away inkjets it is then. That last printer got more use than the next one will as I was pinting the odd document for a housemate (who's no longer here). I doubt the next one will see out it's starter carts. Cheers Norm. -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*." David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
"Ethical" Printer?
"Norm X" wrote in message
news I've been using an HP Photosmart color inkjet for a decade. When I was using it less frequently, I cursed the cost. Now I use it more frequently it seems to be cost effective. Over a decade, the driver software may have improved. Likewise, I use a B/W Samsung Laser/Scanner, even older. It was getting so decrepit, that I ordered the renewal kit for the take up rollers. Now I've been using it more, there are no problems. I've had no need to install the renewal kit. Maintenance is another issue. Lesson: use it or lose it. Sorry, I spoke too soon. Maintenance will not help my Samsung today. I will need to install the roller kit. |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
"Ethical" Printer?
Once upon a time on usenet Norm X wrote:
"Norm X" wrote in message news I've been using an HP Photosmart color inkjet for a decade. When I was using it less frequently, I cursed the cost. Now I use it more frequently it seems to be cost effective. Over a decade, the driver software may have improved. Likewise, I use a B/W Samsung Laser/Scanner, even older. It was getting so decrepit, that I ordered the renewal kit for the take up rollers. Now I've been using it more, there are no problems. I've had no need to install the renewal kit. Maintenance is another issue. Lesson: use it or lose it. Sorry, I spoke too soon. Maintenance will not help my Samsung today. I will need to install the roller kit. -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*." David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
"Ethical" Printer?
On 1/2/2018 12:13 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
I've just junked yet another inkjet printer for parts (PSU mainly) and, as with the last one I see that there is more ink in the silicone tubes that go to the waste sponge and dried into the sponge itself than ever went onto paper during the ~2 years and ~3 sets of carts. How do they get away with this? It was a Canon FWIW. I'm very not-rich and only need to print maybe once a month or so, usually text-only (but 'documents' often have colour borders etc.). Any suggestions for something affordable that will likely be good in the medium / long term? (I strongly dislike built-in obsolescence.) All the best for 2018 to the people reading this group. Sorry if this post is OT for this group. Spend a bit more and buy a color laser printer for everyday use. I have a Brother HL-3170CDW which wasn't expensive. It even saves paper by printing on both sides when I want it to. I'll admit that the color output is not gallery-quality but it works for almost everything and I still have an elderly Epson 5-color for when I just must have a glossy photo printout. |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
"Ethical" Printer?
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 07:09:30 -0500, John McGaw wrote:
On 1/2/2018 12:13 AM, ~misfit~ wrote: I've just junked yet another inkjet printer for parts (PSU mainly) and, as with the last one I see that there is more ink in the silicone tubes that go to the waste sponge and dried into the sponge itself than ever went onto paper during the ~2 years and ~3 sets of carts. How do they get away with this? It was a Canon FWIW. I'm very not-rich and only need to print maybe once a month or so, usually text-only (but 'documents' often have colour borders etc.). Any suggestions for something affordable that will likely be good in the medium / long term? (I strongly dislike built-in obsolescence.) All the best for 2018 to the people reading this group. Sorry if this post is OT for this group. Spend a bit more and buy a color laser printer for everyday use. I have a Brother HL-3170CDW which wasn't expensive. It even saves paper by printing on both sides when I want it to. I'll admit that the color output is not gallery-quality but it works for almost everything and I still have an elderly Epson 5-color for when I just must have a glossy photo printout. + 1 I got the cheaper Brother 3140 colour laser, 2-3 years ago - ~ $ 300. Canadian. I'm quite happy with it. I just replaced the starter black toner with aftermarket ~ $ 25. I expect the 3 colour starter toners will last another couple years : zero photo quality printing : a few small document colour jobs per month - google map eg. : a few small mono print jobs per week sudoku eg. My previous inkjet printers suffered the common problems - expensive new ink cart. ; poor refilled units ; low use issues .. John T. |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
"Ethical" Printer?
|
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
USB bootable maker: Diff between "HP Drive Key Boot Utility" and "HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool"? | Jason Stacy | Storage (alternative) | 1 | April 21st 09 01:14 AM |
Printer defaults to "offline" at startup, how can I get it to defaultto "online"? | Joe[_17_] | Printers | 0 | June 15th 08 07:55 PM |
"true life" vs. "anti-glare" of Vostro 1500: What are the brightness & contrast ratios??? | Thomas G. Marshall | Dell Computers | 1 | April 11th 08 10:47 PM |
Which Printer Is Pick Of The Crop "The Best" In Your Opinion My"Shortlist" | Heidy | Printers | 8 | March 17th 07 09:07 PM |