Toshiba Satellite A85 S1072 Driver Problem

I am trying to resurrect a Toshiba Satellite A85 S1072 laptop.
I have XP SP3 installed on it, and have resolved all the drivers
except for the Ethernet. I have found and tried two drivers:
sa85lanx.exe
tm4wlanutilax.exe
But XP Device Manager still shows the Ethernet to be bad.

What I believe is the Ethernet hardware unit is tagged:
AR5BMB5
PA3458U-1MPC
but I have found nothing that helps through that.

I fear that maybe the hardware unit is bad or that I have it installed
wrong. You see, I had to dismantle this laptop in order to kill the
BIOS password that had the laptop locked. Just maybe I reconnected
things wrong. But since the OS seems to detect the presence of the
Ethernet, i have the hope that I did things right. If so, can anyone
suggest something I can try? Paul?

Thanks

Big Fred

wrote:
I am trying to resurrect a Toshiba Satellite A85 S1072 laptop.
I have XP SP3 installed on it, and have resolved all the drivers
except for the Ethernet. I have found and tried two drivers:
sa85lanx.exe
tm4wlanutilax.exe
But XP Device Manager still shows the Ethernet to be bad.

What I believe is the Ethernet hardware unit is tagged:
AR5BMB5
PA3458U-1MPC
but I have found nothing that helps through that.

I fear that maybe the hardware unit is bad or that I have it installed
wrong. You see, I had to dismantle this laptop in order to kill the
BIOS password that had the laptop locked. Just maybe I reconnected
things wrong. But since the OS seems to detect the presence of the
Ethernet, i have the hope that I did things right. If so, can anyone
suggest something I can try? Paul?

Thanks

Big Fred


The drivers page on the Toshiba site, has LAN and Wifi.

http://support.toshiba.com/support/m...eeText=1042295

RealTek LAN Driver for Windows XP
Posted Date: 2005-06-14 | Version: 5.612.628.2004 | Size: 2.0M
http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont...s/sa85lanx.exe

;; Realtek RTL8139/810x/8169/8110 all in one NDIS Driver
;; Copyright 2004, Realtek Semiconductor Corporation
;; .this release is primarily for OEM for WHQL test.

*******

Atheros Wireless (802.11 a+g/g) Client Utility for Windows XP/2000
Posted Date: 2005-04-22 | Version: 3.1.2.45.i132 | Size: 14.6M
http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont...wlanutilax.exe

Atheros Mini PCI Wireless Lan (802.11 g/b) Driver for Windows XP
Posted Date: 2005-04-21 | Version: 3.1.2.45.i120 | Size: 2.78M
http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont.../tm4wlanax.exe

The Wifi appears to be on a Mini PCI card. When I google your
part number, AR5BMB5 appears to be Atheros wireless.

The RealTek LAN chip (drives the Ethernet cable) could be
soldered to the motherboard.

Maybe you could give the "code" value that tells
you "Ethernet to be bad". As someone might
recognize it.

Of the two Wifi drivers, one will be the plain driver
(the small one), the other package the Wifi management.
Windows also has Wireless Zero Config, so it is possible
in some cases, that no Wifi management is needed, if
Windows manages the Wifi. But the driver portion would
still be required.

Paul

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:49:43 -0500, Paul wrote:

The drivers page on the Toshiba site, has LAN and Wifi.

http://support.toshiba.com/support/m...eeText=1042295

RealTek LAN Driver for Windows XP
Posted Date: 2005-06-14 | Version: 5.612.628.2004 | Size: 2.0M
http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont...s/sa85lanx.exe

;; Realtek RTL8139/810x/8169/8110 all in one NDIS Driver
;; Copyright 2004, Realtek Semiconductor Corporation
;; .this release is primarily for OEM for WHQL test.

*******

Atheros Wireless (802.11 a+g/g) Client Utility for Windows XP/2000
Posted Date: 2005-04-22 | Version: 3.1.2.45.i132 | Size: 14.6M
http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont...wlanutilax.exe

Atheros Mini PCI Wireless Lan (802.11 g/b) Driver for Windows XP
Posted Date: 2005-04-21 | Version: 3.1.2.45.i120 | Size: 2.78M
http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont.../tm4wlanax.exe

The Wifi appears to be on a Mini PCI card. When I google your
part number, AR5BMB5 appears to be Atheros wireless.

The RealTek LAN chip (drives the Ethernet cable) could be
soldered to the motherboard.

Maybe you could give the "code" value that tells
you "Ethernet to be bad". As someone might
recognize it.

Of the two Wifi drivers, one will be the plain driver
(the small one), the other package the Wifi management.
Windows also has Wireless Zero Config, so it is possible
in some cases, that no Wifi management is needed, if
Windows manages the Wifi. But the driver portion would
still be required.

Paul


Thanks Paul.

Actually I had the drivers you specified already, so I tried them
again. This time I have Ethernet and it works. That's what I really
wanted. Device Manager shows the Realtek RTL8139/819X Family Fast
Ethernet NIC as working, but 'Ethernet Controller as not working under
'Other Devices'. I am concluding that the AR5BMB5 is my Wifi. It is
what I disassembled and reassembled, so maybe I did the latter wrong.
There were only two mini-cable little connectors - one red the other
plain. I have connected the red to 'Main', the other to 'Aux'

I tried re-installing the AR5BMB5 drivers, and Device Manger remained
the same, but now I have lost my Internet connectivity again. Go
figure.

BF

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:41:28 -0500, wrote:


I tried re-installing the AR5BMB5 drivers, and Device Manger remained
the same, but now I have lost my Internet connectivity again. Go
figure.

BF


I got my internet connection back. My cat5 cable had worked loose
from the router. Device Manager still shows the one problem though.

Thanks again

BF

wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:41:28 -0500, wrote:


I tried re-installing the AR5BMB5 drivers, and Device Manger remained
the same, but now I have lost my Internet connectivity again. Go
figure.

BF


I got my internet connection back. My cat5 cable had worked loose
from the router. Device Manager still shows the one problem though.

Thanks again

BF

The two mini-cables are for antennas. The coaxial connectors
on the mini-PCI, carry RF signals to some patch antennas. The
patch antennas have to be arranged underneath some plastic, so
the RF can get out. Those connectors are easy to squash and
deform, so you have to be careful. They're not robust like
regular cabling.

You would have to open it back up, remove whatever plate covers
the mini-PCI, and check the insertion. If it is being reported
in Device Manager though, that probably means the Wifi module
is making electrical contact.

So probably just your Wifi is broken, and the RealTek Ethernet (RJ45
connector) is OK.

Paul

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:32:07 -0500, Paul wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:41:28 -0500, wrote:


I tried re-installing the AR5BMB5 drivers, and Device Manger remained
the same, but now I have lost my Internet connectivity again. Go
figure.

BF


I got my internet connection back. My cat5 cable had worked loose
from the router. Device Manager still shows the one problem though.

Thanks again

BF

The two mini-cables are for antennas. The coaxial connectors
on the mini-PCI, carry RF signals to some patch antennas. The
patch antennas have to be arranged underneath some plastic, so
the RF can get out. Those connectors are easy to squash and
deform, so you have to be careful. They're not robust like
regular cabling.

You would have to open it back up, remove whatever plate covers
the mini-PCI, and check the insertion. If it is being reported
in Device Manager though, that probably means the Wifi module
is making electrical contact.

So probably just your Wifi is broken, and the RealTek Ethernet (RJ45
connector) is OK.

Paul


I think I will let it go the way it is.

Thanks

Fred

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:50:32 -0500, wrote:


I think I will let it go the way it is.

Thanks

Fred


I have changed my mind on living with the non-working wireless. I
quickly realized that the laptop will not connect to the web unless
physically connected to my router (via CAT5). That prevents a main
functionality of the laptop of course - that I can use it on the web
in another room.

So, that said, let's see. I assume the little 1-2 inch hardware
tagged AR5BMB5 & PA3458U-1MPC is the culprit
As I said, I had removed and replaced it and other stuff, and
reconnected the two wires, red and non-red tipped, to the 'main' and
'aux', resp. Am I correct on that?

I downloaded and installed both downloads at


http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont...wlanutilax.exe
and

http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont.../tm4wlanax.exe

but Device Manager still shows a problem as 'Ethernet Controller'
under 'Other devices'.

The downloads were
tm4wlanax.exe
and
tm4wlanutilax.exe

If I am looking at the correct problem piece, what should I look for
that could be causing the problem? Or just maybe, it is okay, and I
still am not downloading the correct driver?

Thanks for all you helps

I gotta leave this AM, but will return around noon local.

Big Fred

You know, I am wondering if the wireless is really showing up in my
Device Manager. I say that because I see no actual wireless there,
just a working network adapter shown to be Realtek, and an 'other
device' that is shown to be a non-working Realtek, which is not the
wireless. Right?

So maybe the thing is not connected correctly? Could be, in my
ignorance.

Thanks

Big Fred

wrote:
You know, I am wondering if the wireless is really showing up in my
Device Manager. I say that because I see no actual wireless there,
just a working network adapter shown to be Realtek, and an 'other
device' that is shown to be a non-working Realtek, which is not the
wireless. Right?

So maybe the thing is not connected correctly? Could be, in my
ignorance.

Thanks

Big Fred


Check in the BIOS, and see if there is a setting for it.
Like, to turn it on and off.

Look with msinfo32.exe for Problem Devices. See
if some VEN/DEV device is in there.

Some of those Wifi things, have more than one
chip on them, and are "combo" devices. And that
could be the Other Devices thing.

Paul

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:21:22 -0500, Paul wrote:


Check in the BIOS, and see if there is a setting for it.
Like, to turn it on and off.

All I see in the BIOS related to a LAN is

build-in LAN which is enabled


Look with msinfo32.exe for Problem Devices. See
if some VEN/DEV device is in there.


For 'problem devices' it has Ethernet controller
PCI\VEN_168C&DEV_001A&SUBSYS_7094144F&REV_01\4&253 A0906&0&10A4
the drivers for this device are not installed

Suggest anything to you?
Thanks
Big Fred

Some of those Wifi things, have more than one
chip on them, and are "combo" devices. And that
could be the Other Devices thing.

Paul