Anyone went from nVidia to ATI?

"Inglo" ioo@??.¿¿¿ wrote in message
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On 10/22/2004 12:15 AM Richard Cavell brightened our day with:

On 22/10/04 4:55 PM, Andrew wrote:

WTF, you expect a 5 year old game to utilise all the modern features
of your 9800?


No, but I expect the fill rate to be high enough to run it at 100 fps +.

You probably have VSync enabled or are maybe locked at 60FPS (look for
refreshforce). Maybe you are CPU limited too.


2 Gigahertz P4, 768 MB RAM.

I just popped open CS to see how it runs, 1280x1024, 6x AA 16x Forced
Trilinear AF, never varied from 100 fps. There are game settings and such
that seem to lock it there, I quit playing CS back in 1999 though so I
don't know exactly how the console stuff works.
I have a feeling if it was unfettered it would be running at 3 or 400 fps.

That's with a 9800 Pro, whatever problem you have getting it to run at 100
fps is yours not the cards.

Isn't Counterstrike capped at 100fps?

--
NoRemorse
"Expect me when you see me."

On 22/10/04 5:39 PM, Inglo wrote:

I just popped open CS to see how it runs, 1280x1024, 6x AA 16x Forced
Trilinear AF, never varied from 100 fps. There are game settings and
such that seem to lock it there,

I just ran it at those settings and I'm at about 60-70 fps, never higher
than 71 fps. VSync is off. I'm using the Condition Zero version of CS,
by the way.

"GT-Force" wrote in message
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Hi,

I had an nVidia (GeForce2 GTS), now I have an ATI card (9700 Pro), and I
am thinking about going back to nVidia (6800GT). Is there anyone here that
went to nVidia from ATI and regretted it? If so, what was the old and the
new cards, and what were the issues?

I think you have your title mixed up! What is it you are interested in
hearing about? People going from ATI to nVidia, or people going from nVidia
to ATI?

If you mean the former, then I went from ATI 9700 Pro to a 6800 GT and I
have no regrets at all. The performance of the GT is outstanding and the
image quality is amazing. Even better than the 9700Pro, which was already
very good indeed.

There are a couple of downsides to the nvidia though that you should be
aware of. They don't matter at all to me and I am not remotely bothered.
But they might matter to you:

1. The video processor on the 6800 is broken and it doesn't provide any
support from decoding of HD .wmv files like it should. Unless you have a
powerful processor, you may be looking at 100% CPU usage and dropped frames.
So if your requirements are for a HTPC *and* you want to run HD video, then
I would look elsewhere.

2. In any event, the video picture quality of the 6800GT is not as good as
ATI's. I knew this already before I purchased. Anyone serious about HTPC
will tell you to buy ATI anyway. I don't have an HTPC - I just use my PC to
very occassionally play the odd DVD. The 6800GT at DVD replay is
"adequate". Its no big deal for me.

Chip

"Inglo" ioo@??.¿¿¿ wrote in message
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On 10/22/2004 12:17 AM Michael Fritz brightened our day with:

"GT-Force" wrote in message
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I had an nVidia (GeForce2 GTS), now I have an ATI card (9700 Pro), and I
am thinking about going back to nVidia (6800GT). Is there anyone here
that went to nVidia from ATI and regretted it? If so, what was the old
and the new cards, and what were the issues?

I've moved from a GeForce 2 Ti to an Asus X800 pro.
After reinstalling the OS - I changed from Win98SE to a new installation
of
WinXPpro - I'm indeed a little bit disappointed.
Some of the Games (Unreal 2, Unreal Expanded Multiplayer, Tribes Vengeance
Demo..) are crashing sometimes with an D3DERR_DRIVERINTERNALERROR.
First I installed XP with SP2 and reinstalled XP with SP1, DirectX 9.0c
using Catalyst 4.10. But now luck either.

IMO Win98 did the job much better than XP. I changed the OS because of
missing drivers for my X800 under Win98.

Of course some of the new games run quite good and the graphics looks very
pretty ;-) So the new graphics card could certainly not be blamed but the
OS and/or the drivers.

All of those games are the same engine, find out if there are conflicts
with the Unreal engine and your settings.

I am seeing flashing problems with both 9800Pro and 6800 with Unreal 2.

"Richard Cavell" wrote in message
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On 22/10/04 5:39 PM, Inglo wrote:

I just popped open CS to see how it runs, 1280x1024, 6x AA 16x Forced
Trilinear AF, never varied from 100 fps. There are game settings and
such that seem to lock it there,

I just ran it at those settings and I'm at about 60-70 fps, never higher
than 71 fps. VSync is off. I'm using the Condition Zero version of CS,
by the way.

I believe it's capped at about 70 fps un less you use a command line switch.

GT-Force wrote:
Hi,

I had an nVidia (GeForce2 GTS), now I have an ATI card (9700 Pro),
and I am thinking about going back to nVidia (6800GT). Is there
anyone here that went to nVidia from ATI and regretted it? If so,
what was the old and the new cards, and what were the issues?

Thanks.

GT

I went from a TI4400 to an ATI 9700 Pro ( have since upgraded to 9800 Pro).

I had no issues, and to me it was a very good upgrade. I got much better
performance with the 9700 Pro, but that was to be expected.

I did however take it to the extreme on making the change, I went ahead and
did a format and fresh install of XP, using the new ATI card. I am sure that
was not necessary, at the time I just wanted to do it.


--
Don Burnette

"Richard Cavell" wrote in message
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On 22/10/04 1:04 PM, GT-Force wrote:


I went from a nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4200 to an ATI Radeon 9800 XT, and I'm
a bit disappointed. CounterStrike doesn't look one iota better, and my
frame rates are only marginally improved and equally likely to slow down
to a crawl during much activity. Softimage also doesn't appear to have
improved much.



Huh. I did the same thing and have almost the same system as you (I looked
a few messages ahead) except I have 1.5 gig of RAM. I've found the 9800XT
to be a HUGE difference in everything... old and new. And of course, it
makes all the difference in the world in DirectX 9 games. Did you play
Halo? UT2004? The difference in those blew me away. And there simply is
no comparison in Doom 3 or Half-Life 2 (I've played the leaked pre-alpha).

The 9800XT allows me to play everything... old and new... at 1280x1024...
smooth as silk... something I could never dream of before.

I don't know what your specific issue is, but for me the difference between
those two cards is night and day...

"Richard Cavell" wrote in message
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On 22/10/04 5:39 PM, Inglo wrote:

I just popped open CS to see how it runs, 1280x1024, 6x AA 16x Forced
Trilinear AF, never varied from 100 fps. There are game settings and
such that seem to lock it there,

I just ran it at those settings and I'm at about 60-70 fps, never higher
than 71 fps. VSync is off. I'm using the Condition Zero version of CS,
by the way.


try opening the ingame console and typing fpsmax

it should show you a list and it will more than likely show fpsmax 72. just
type sommet like fpsmax 100 or fpsmax 400. the fps counter doesn't go past
100 though

"GT-Force" wrote in message
.. .
Hi,

I had an nVidia (GeForce2 GTS), now I have an ATI card (9700 Pro), and I
am thinking about going back to nVidia (6800GT). Is there anyone here that
went to nVidia from ATI and regretted it? If so, what was the old and the
new cards, and what were the issues?

Thanks.

GT


I did similar, gf4 ti4200 to 9700 pro now to 6800 GT. No issues at all, big
performance increase each time.

"GT-Force" wrote in message
.. .
Hi,

I had an nVidia (GeForce2 GTS), now I have an ATI card (9700 Pro), and I am
thinking about going back to nVidia (6800GT). Is there anyone here that went
to nVidia from ATI and regretted it? If so, what was the old and the new
cards, and what were the issues?

Thanks.

GT


I went from GF3 to 9700 pro/9800 pro to 6800GT, and I wish I stuck with ATI. The fonts look like
cxrap on my system, so I had to switch to cleartype smoothing which give purple hazing on some text
in games and other areas. As soon as ATI comes out with their next upgrade, I will be dumping this
6800GT.