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Old August 20th 06, 11:41 PM posted to alt.hacker,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware
shegeek72
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I've been thinking about blowing cold air into a puter case. Water
cooling only takes care of the CPU / GPU, while the other devices: HD /
CD / DVD, other MB chips, etc are left to fans. I know nothing about
cooling compressors, but what's the possibily of building a small
refrigeration unit and blowing the cold air inside the case?

I did a cursory search on google and didn't find much.

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Old August 21st 06, 12:39 AM posted to alt.hacker,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware
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shegeek72 wrote:

I've been thinking about blowing cold air into a puter case. Water
cooling only takes care of the CPU / GPU, while the other devices: HD /
CD / DVD, other MB chips, etc are left to fans. I know nothing about
cooling compressors, but what's the possibily of building a small
refrigeration unit and blowing the cold air inside the case?

I did a cursory search on google and didn't find much.

Refrigerators for computers generally are much like liquid cooling, but at
-40 degrees. You could, if you were willing, create a device that blows
that air around, but there would be an awful lot of condensation.

Fans are probably your best bet, except maybe getting some liquid hard drive
coolers and stuff.

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Old August 21st 06, 12:44 AM posted to alt.hacker,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware
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shegeek72 wrote:

I've been thinking about blowing cold air into a puter case. Water
cooling only takes care of the CPU / GPU, while the other devices:
HD / CD / DVD, other MB chips, etc are left to fans. I know nothing
about cooling compressors, but what's the possibily of building a
small refrigeration unit and blowing the cold air inside the case?


Yep, and that is what a small A/C does.

I did a cursory search on google and didn't find much.


Yeah, its not that practical.


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Old August 21st 06, 01:05 AM posted to alt.hacker,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware
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On 20 Aug 2006 15:41:46 -0700, "shegeek72"
wrote:

I've been thinking about blowing cold air into a puter case.


Towards what end?
It won't be quieter than a properly set up system, and
practically all parts crucial to overclocking have had
water-blocked designed for them.

Remember that computer components may sometimes be cheaply
implemented to barely stay cool enough but even so, they are
meant to be able to run in room-temp environment.


Water
cooling only takes care of the CPU / GPU, while the other devices: HD /
CD / DVD, other MB chips, etc are left to fans.


Do you realize that this is because fans are entirely
sufficient to cool them? That is, unless there are serious
design mistakes made, for example a really poor case.

I know nothing about
cooling compressors, but what's the possibily of building a small
refrigeration unit and blowing the cold air inside the case?


Of course it's possible, and would cost an arm and a leg if
you wanted a custom job where you first buy individual
parts, weld it all, have a technician charge the
refridgerant. Cheaper would be to modify a very small
refridgerator or window AC unit. Simplest and quietest (by
being rid of the compressor) would be peltiers, but they
gobble up energy, multiple times as much to move the same
amount of heat out of the system.

I did a cursory search on google and didn't find much.


When considering doing something that is unnecessary, this
is often the case. You need to first define exactly what
your goal is, THEN what your cooling system will need be to
accomplish it, instead of the somewhat backwards goal of
taking a cooling system type and then trying to apply to a
scenario.

If you just want an easy answer, take the smallest
refridgerator you can find, then modify the back for the I/O
ports and the front for drive bay openings, LEDs and
switch(es), USB and audio ports, etc... keeping in mind that
if you keey the temp too low, condensation will be a
problem.

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Old August 21st 06, 01:20 AM posted to alt.hacker,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware
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"shegeek72" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've been thinking about blowing cold air into a puter case. Water
cooling only takes care of the CPU / GPU, while the other devices: HD /
CD / DVD, other MB chips, etc are left to fans. I know nothing about
cooling compressors, but what's the possibily of building a small
refrigeration unit and blowing the cold air inside the case?

I did a cursory search on google and didn't find much.



The reason you didn't find any information on blowing cold air into a
computer's case probably has something to do with a little thing called
"condensation." If you are cooling surfaces that don't need it to
temperatures below the ambient temperature of the room the moisture in the
air will begin to collect on those surfaces as very dangerous beads of
liquid water.

Water is conductive, and not a particularly good thing to have randomly
appearing inside your computer!

This would be the main obstacle to your idea. Oddly, when an air
conditioner is running it generally condenses the moisture in the air and
dries out the air. In climate controlled server rooms (for instance) this
can lead to very dry air which is also a negative since very dry air has
lots of static potential. Static discharge, can of course, also damage your
computer.

People spend a lot of money of climate control for expensive computers, so
if you find a great solution with your tinkering you should patent your
idea.

~e.


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Old August 21st 06, 01:30 AM posted to alt.hacker,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware
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"shegeek72" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've been thinking about blowing cold air into a puter case. Water
cooling only takes care of the CPU / GPU, while the other devices: HD /
CD / DVD, other MB chips, etc are left to fans. I know nothing about
cooling compressors, but what's the possibily of building a small
refrigeration unit and blowing the cold air inside the case?

I did a cursory search on google and didn't find much.


You obviously didn't look hard enough!!

http://www.comet.co.uk/comet/html/cache/43_250902.html


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Old August 21st 06, 01:32 AM posted to alt.hacker,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware
Ken Maltby
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"shegeek72" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've been thinking about blowing cold air into a puter case. Water
cooling only takes care of the CPU / GPU, while the other devices: HD /
CD / DVD, other MB chips, etc are left to fans. I know nothing about
cooling compressors, but what's the possibily of building a small
refrigeration unit and blowing the cold air inside the case?

I did a cursory search on google and didn't find much.


A refrigerator doesn't remove enough heat. An airconditioner can.

If you cool below room temp., you will need to address condensation.
(It is quite doable though.)

I have one system that I use a dryer hose to duct the output of a
$85 window air conditioner into a case, works fine. You just have to
be aware of the condensation if you restart the system while it is below
room temp and not had dry air moving through it for a while.

A safer way is to use water blocks for the main heat makers, and
low speed fans to quietly move some air through your case. I have
1/2" PVC run to another room so there is no noise from the water
cooling, at all.

If you were to treat your system to prevent condensation ( plenty
of how-to available from sites/forums of those who use peilters)
you could even chill the water.

Luck;
Ken



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Old August 21st 06, 01:32 AM posted to alt.hacker,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware
Bazzer Smith
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"shegeek72" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've been thinking about blowing cold air into a puter case. Water
cooling only takes care of the CPU / GPU, while the other devices: HD /
CD / DVD, other MB chips, etc are left to fans. I know nothing about
cooling compressors, but what's the possibily of building a small
refrigeration unit and blowing the cold air inside the case?

I did a cursory search on google and didn't find much.


You think it will be quieter than a huge cooling fan?
I doubt it.




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Old August 21st 06, 02:23 AM posted to alt.hacker,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware
Gandalf Parker
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"shegeek72" contributed wisdom to
oups.com:

I've been thinking about blowing cold air into a puter case. Water
cooling only takes care of the CPU / GPU, while the other devices: HD /
CD / DVD, other MB chips, etc are left to fans. I know nothing about
cooling compressors, but what's the possibily of building a small
refrigeration unit and blowing the cold air inside the case?

I did a cursory search on google and didn't find much.


Usually moving the air will do the most good. You shouldnt need to cool it
unless it is a really hot room. Then you might as well cool the room.

Gandalf Parker
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Old August 21st 06, 04:22 AM posted to alt.hacker,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware
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shegeek72 wrote:
I've been thinking about blowing cold air into a puter case. Water
cooling only takes care of the CPU / GPU, while the other devices: HD /
CD / DVD, other MB chips, etc are left to fans. I know nothing about
cooling compressors, but what's the possibily of building a small
refrigeration unit and blowing the cold air inside the case?

I did a cursory search on google and didn't find much.


Poor mans version is to get a small dormatory fridge, or freezer and
stick the computer inside it. You have to drill some holes for the
wiring, and re-insulate them. It can be done. It's bulky, possibly
expensive, and possibly unnessiary. But a fun project if you like that
sort of thing. The cost can be reduced if you get the fridge
secondhand, and why void the warrenty of a new unit, anyway?

 




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