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Old March 31st 05, 07:15 PM
Jon J. Yeager
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Default - Latest Plextor DVD not compatible with A8N-SLI Deluxe... need opinions.

I just bought a new system... it included the A8N-SLI Deluxe as a mainboard,
and the CD/DVD is the Plextor PX-716SA (SATA). I noticed the DVD kept
freezing the OS.

I call Plextor Support and am told that the A8N-SLI Deluxe and PX-716SA are
simply incompatible. Guess I should have looked this up before buying the
two items. There is an issue on (according to the Plextor agent) Asus' side
of the fence that prevents these two from working together.

Apparently, the IDE version of the PX-716 works fine with this MB.

The agent had no ETA for me regarding any possible firmware upgrades that
would fix the issue, or Bios upgrades on Asus' part that would do the same.
But told me that they "are both working on it". I then asked the agent,
"unofficially", how long it could take for them to solve it. He said 2
months.

I bought these parts less than a week ago. I could probably trade the 716SA
for the IDE. But then I'll feel stupid in 2 months if the SATA issue is
fixed and I'm stuck with IDE because I didn't wait.

Putting the DVD on one of the Silicon Image Controller (RAID) ports /FIXES/
the problem. The drive works. The downside is that I had to enable RAID to
do it (it was previously disabled, speeding up the boot-up process
significantly). And I probably won't ever be able to RAID my drives as long
as the DVD is there (but I could be wrong on that).

So anyway, I now have 2 hard drives on the main SATA controller, and 1 DVD
burner on the SiI.

Everything is working. The question is... do I still bring this drive back
and trade it in for a currently-compatible one (even if less highly rated
overall), or do I stick with this "well, it works" set-up and pray that
Asus/Plextor fix this issue that will allow me to put the DVD back on the
main SATA controller, so I can disable my RAID again, or RAID up my hard
drives?

My computer is currently IDE-free. Ideally, I'd like to remain like this.

Thoughts? Opinions?



  #2  
Old March 31st 05, 07:16 PM
Jon J. Yeager
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Oh, forgot to add.. I am using rev.1.02 of the A8N-SLI Deluxe.

"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message
...
I just bought a new system... it included the A8N-SLI Deluxe as a
mainboard, and the CD/DVD is the Plextor PX-716SA (SATA). I noticed the DVD
kept freezing the OS.

I call Plextor Support and am told that the A8N-SLI Deluxe and PX-716SA
are simply incompatible. Guess I should have looked this up before buying
the two items. There is an issue on (according to the Plextor agent) Asus'
side of the fence that prevents these two from working together.

Apparently, the IDE version of the PX-716 works fine with this MB.

The agent had no ETA for me regarding any possible firmware upgrades that
would fix the issue, or Bios upgrades on Asus' part that would do the
same. But told me that they "are both working on it". I then asked the
agent, "unofficially", how long it could take for them to solve it. He
said 2 months.

I bought these parts less than a week ago. I could probably trade the
716SA for the IDE. But then I'll feel stupid in 2 months if the SATA issue
is fixed and I'm stuck with IDE because I didn't wait.

Putting the DVD on one of the Silicon Image Controller (RAID) ports
/FIXES/ the problem. The drive works. The downside is that I had to enable
RAID to do it (it was previously disabled, speeding up the boot-up process
significantly). And I probably won't ever be able to RAID my drives as
long as the DVD is there (but I could be wrong on that).

So anyway, I now have 2 hard drives on the main SATA controller, and 1 DVD
burner on the SiI.

Everything is working. The question is... do I still bring this drive back
and trade it in for a currently-compatible one (even if less highly rated
overall), or do I stick with this "well, it works" set-up and pray that
Asus/Plextor fix this issue that will allow me to put the DVD back on the
main SATA controller, so I can disable my RAID again, or RAID up my hard
drives?

My computer is currently IDE-free. Ideally, I'd like to remain like this.

Thoughts? Opinions?





  #3  
Old March 31st 05, 11:14 PM
Dave
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Jon J. Yeager wrote:
Oh, forgot to add.. I am using rev.1.02 of the A8N-SLI Deluxe.

"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message
...

I just bought a new system... it included the A8N-SLI Deluxe as a
mainboard, and the CD/DVD is the Plextor PX-716SA (SATA). I noticed the DVD
kept freezing the OS.

I call Plextor Support and am told that the A8N-SLI Deluxe and PX-716SA
are simply incompatible. Guess I should have looked this up before buying
the two items. There is an issue on (according to the Plextor agent) Asus'
side of the fence that prevents these two from working together.

Apparently, the IDE version of the PX-716 works fine with this MB.

The agent had no ETA for me regarding any possible firmware upgrades that
would fix the issue, or Bios upgrades on Asus' part that would do the
same. But told me that they "are both working on it". I then asked the
agent, "unofficially", how long it could take for them to solve it. He
said 2 months.

I bought these parts less than a week ago. I could probably trade the
716SA for the IDE. But then I'll feel stupid in 2 months if the SATA issue
is fixed and I'm stuck with IDE because I didn't wait.

Putting the DVD on one of the Silicon Image Controller (RAID) ports
/FIXES/ the problem. The drive works. The downside is that I had to enable
RAID to do it (it was previously disabled, speeding up the boot-up process
significantly). And I probably won't ever be able to RAID my drives as
long as the DVD is there (but I could be wrong on that).

So anyway, I now have 2 hard drives on the main SATA controller, and 1 DVD
burner on the SiI.

Everything is working. The question is... do I still bring this drive back
and trade it in for a currently-compatible one (even if less highly rated
overall), or do I stick with this "well, it works" set-up and pray that
Asus/Plextor fix this issue that will allow me to put the DVD back on the
main SATA controller, so I can disable my RAID again, or RAID up my hard
drives?

My computer is currently IDE-free. Ideally, I'd like to remain like this.

Thoughts? Opinions?






Had this problem with my plextor PX-716A and Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe. Would
burn DVD / CD, but always get failures during verification (using Nero).
The problem was fixed in plextor firmware 1.04updated and later.

Note: 1.04 has this problem yon need the updated version. Current
available firmware is Ver 1.05 which I've flashed to the drive, but
haven't burn any discs with that yet.

Go to www.plextor.be and download the firmware

Dave.
  #4  
Old March 31st 05, 11:18 PM
Dave
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Jon J. Yeager wrote:
Oh, forgot to add.. I am using rev.1.02 of the A8N-SLI Deluxe.

"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message
...

I just bought a new system... it included the A8N-SLI Deluxe as a
mainboard, and the CD/DVD is the Plextor PX-716SA (SATA). I noticed the DVD
kept freezing the OS.

I call Plextor Support and am told that the A8N-SLI Deluxe and PX-716SA
are simply incompatible. Guess I should have looked this up before buying
the two items. There is an issue on (according to the Plextor agent) Asus'
side of the fence that prevents these two from working together.

Apparently, the IDE version of the PX-716 works fine with this MB.

The agent had no ETA for me regarding any possible firmware upgrades that
would fix the issue, or Bios upgrades on Asus' part that would do the
same. But told me that they "are both working on it". I then asked the
agent, "unofficially", how long it could take for them to solve it. He
said 2 months.

I bought these parts less than a week ago. I could probably trade the
716SA for the IDE. But then I'll feel stupid in 2 months if the SATA issue
is fixed and I'm stuck with IDE because I didn't wait.

Putting the DVD on one of the Silicon Image Controller (RAID) ports
/FIXES/ the problem. The drive works. The downside is that I had to enable
RAID to do it (it was previously disabled, speeding up the boot-up process
significantly). And I probably won't ever be able to RAID my drives as
long as the DVD is there (but I could be wrong on that).

So anyway, I now have 2 hard drives on the main SATA controller, and 1 DVD
burner on the SiI.

Everything is working. The question is... do I still bring this drive back
and trade it in for a currently-compatible one (even if less highly rated
overall), or do I stick with this "well, it works" set-up and pray that
Asus/Plextor fix this issue that will allow me to put the DVD back on the
main SATA controller, so I can disable my RAID again, or RAID up my hard
drives?

My computer is currently IDE-free. Ideally, I'd like to remain like this.

Thoughts? Opinions?






Note: I have the IDE burner, but Ver 1.05 is for the PX-716A/SA/UF
drives so may fix your problem....

Dave.
  #5  
Old March 31st 05, 11:23 PM
Dave
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Dave wrote:
Jon J. Yeager wrote:

Oh, forgot to add.. I am using rev.1.02 of the A8N-SLI Deluxe.

"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message
...

I just bought a new system... it included the A8N-SLI Deluxe as a
mainboard, and the CD/DVD is the Plextor PX-716SA (SATA). I noticed
the DVD kept freezing the OS.

I call Plextor Support and am told that the A8N-SLI Deluxe and
PX-716SA are simply incompatible. Guess I should have looked this up
before buying the two items. There is an issue on (according to the
Plextor agent) Asus' side of the fence that prevents these two from
working together.

Apparently, the IDE version of the PX-716 works fine with this MB.

The agent had no ETA for me regarding any possible firmware upgrades
that would fix the issue, or Bios upgrades on Asus' part that would
do the same. But told me that they "are both working on it". I then
asked the agent, "unofficially", how long it could take for them to
solve it. He said 2 months.

I bought these parts less than a week ago. I could probably trade the
716SA for the IDE. But then I'll feel stupid in 2 months if the SATA
issue is fixed and I'm stuck with IDE because I didn't wait.

Putting the DVD on one of the Silicon Image Controller (RAID) ports
/FIXES/ the problem. The drive works. The downside is that I had to
enable RAID to do it (it was previously disabled, speeding up the
boot-up process significantly). And I probably won't ever be able to
RAID my drives as long as the DVD is there (but I could be wrong on
that).

So anyway, I now have 2 hard drives on the main SATA controller, and
1 DVD burner on the SiI.

Everything is working. The question is... do I still bring this drive
back and trade it in for a currently-compatible one (even if less
highly rated overall), or do I stick with this "well, it works"
set-up and pray that Asus/Plextor fix this issue that will allow me
to put the DVD back on the main SATA controller, so I can disable my
RAID again, or RAID up my hard drives?

My computer is currently IDE-free. Ideally, I'd like to remain like
this.

Thoughts? Opinions?






Note: I have the IDE burner, but Ver 1.05 is for the PX-716A/SA/UF
drives so may fix your problem....

Dave.


Here is the info on the firmwa-

Firmware versions for PX-716A/SA/UF

PX-716A/SA/UF V1.05

* Added: Support for newer 8X DVD+R media
* Support for newer 16X DVD+R media
* Support for newer 8X DVD-R media
* Support for newer 16X DVD-R media
* Support for newer 8X DVD+RW media
* Support for newer 4X and 6X DVD-RW media
* Support for newer DVD+R DL media

* Improvements: Write performance on CD-R media
* Write performance on DVD+R media
* Write performance on DVD-R media
* Write performance on DVD+R DL media
* Write performance on DVD-R DL media
* Write performance on DVD+RW media
* Write performance on DVD-RW media
* Write performance of AutoStrategy

PX-716A/SA/UF V1.04 (updated)

* Improvements: Compatibility with some motherboards --- Note****

PX-716A/SA/UF V1.04

* Added: Support for newer 8X DVD+R media
* Support for newer 16X DVD+R media
* Support for newer 8X DVD-R media
* Support for newer 16X DVD-R media
* Support for newer 8X DVD+RW media
* Support for newer DVD+R DL media
* Support for newer DVD-R DL media
* Support for 6X writing on DVD+R DL media

* Improvements: Write performance on CD-R media
* Write performance on CD-RW media
* Write performance on DVD+R media
* Write performance on DVD-R media
* Write performance on DVD+R DL media
* Write performance on DVD+RW media
* Write performance of AutoStrategy (12X writing is allowed on 16X
media)
* Write quality of AutoStrategy
* Read performance of DVD media
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Old April 1st 05, 02:05 AM
Jon J. Yeager
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I installed the firmware before posting my message. It's the first thing I
did. Then I called Plextor, and they told me this is a problem they are
already aware of, and don't expect to be fixed for another month or two.
/IF/ it's fixable, that is.

But it works on the SI (RAID).

Go figure. I was thinking of trading the DVD in for the non-SATA version,
but then I'd be stuck with the drawbacks of IDE (huge confining cables,
draws more juice from the CPU, slower, etc.)

If Asus told us they "will" fix this for sure, then I'd wait.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Dave wrote:
Jon J. Yeager wrote:

Oh, forgot to add.. I am using rev.1.02 of the A8N-SLI Deluxe.

"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message
...

I just bought a new system... it included the A8N-SLI Deluxe as a
mainboard, and the CD/DVD is the Plextor PX-716SA (SATA). I noticed the
DVD kept freezing the OS.

I call Plextor Support and am told that the A8N-SLI Deluxe and PX-716SA
are simply incompatible. Guess I should have looked this up before
buying the two items. There is an issue on (according to the Plextor
agent) Asus' side of the fence that prevents these two from working
together.

Apparently, the IDE version of the PX-716 works fine with this MB.

The agent had no ETA for me regarding any possible firmware upgrades
that would fix the issue, or Bios upgrades on Asus' part that would do
the same. But told me that they "are both working on it". I then asked
the agent, "unofficially", how long it could take for them to solve it.
He said 2 months.

I bought these parts less than a week ago. I could probably trade the
716SA for the IDE. But then I'll feel stupid in 2 months if the SATA
issue is fixed and I'm stuck with IDE because I didn't wait.

Putting the DVD on one of the Silicon Image Controller (RAID) ports
/FIXES/ the problem. The drive works. The downside is that I had to
enable RAID to do it (it was previously disabled, speeding up the
boot-up process significantly). And I probably won't ever be able to
RAID my drives as long as the DVD is there (but I could be wrong on
that).

So anyway, I now have 2 hard drives on the main SATA controller, and 1
DVD burner on the SiI.

Everything is working. The question is... do I still bring this drive
back and trade it in for a currently-compatible one (even if less
highly rated overall), or do I stick with this "well, it works" set-up
and pray that Asus/Plextor fix this issue that will allow me to put the
DVD back on the main SATA controller, so I can disable my RAID again,
or RAID up my hard drives?

My computer is currently IDE-free. Ideally, I'd like to remain like
this.

Thoughts? Opinions?






Note: I have the IDE burner, but Ver 1.05 is for the PX-716A/SA/UF drives
so may fix your problem....

Dave.

Here is the info on the firmwa-

Firmware versions for PX-716A/SA/UF

PX-716A/SA/UF V1.05

* Added: Support for newer 8X DVD+R media
* Support for newer 16X DVD+R media
* Support for newer 8X DVD-R media
* Support for newer 16X DVD-R media
* Support for newer 8X DVD+RW media
* Support for newer 4X and 6X DVD-RW media
* Support for newer DVD+R DL media

* Improvements: Write performance on CD-R media
* Write performance on DVD+R media
* Write performance on DVD-R media
* Write performance on DVD+R DL media
* Write performance on DVD-R DL media
* Write performance on DVD+RW media
* Write performance on DVD-RW media
* Write performance of AutoStrategy

PX-716A/SA/UF V1.04 (updated)

* Improvements: Compatibility with some motherboards --- Note****

PX-716A/SA/UF V1.04

* Added: Support for newer 8X DVD+R media
* Support for newer 16X DVD+R media
* Support for newer 8X DVD-R media
* Support for newer 16X DVD-R media
* Support for newer 8X DVD+RW media
* Support for newer DVD+R DL media
* Support for newer DVD-R DL media
* Support for 6X writing on DVD+R DL media

* Improvements: Write performance on CD-R media
* Write performance on CD-RW media
* Write performance on DVD+R media
* Write performance on DVD-R media
* Write performance on DVD+R DL media
* Write performance on DVD+RW media
* Write performance of AutoStrategy (12X writing is allowed on 16X
media)
* Write quality of AutoStrategy
* Read performance of DVD media



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Old April 1st 05, 04:40 AM
Jon J. Yeager
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Just so we're clear here.. the Plextor PX-716A definitely /works/ with the
A8N-SLI Deluxe?

It's only the 716SA that doesn't... right?

I don't want to trade for the IDE model and realize it doesn't work either.
:-/ I am asking because I just realized that while the SA seemed to work
when put on RAID, it only reads - it won't write.

So keeping it is no longer an option. I am either trading it in for the IDE
version, or another brand SATA DVD writer.

Opinions?


  #8  
Old April 1st 05, 07:54 AM
Nocturnal
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Wrong, it's compatible because I have one and I'm using it perfectly fine.
"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message
...
I just bought a new system... it included the A8N-SLI Deluxe as a
mainboard, and the CD/DVD is the Plextor PX-716SA (SATA). I noticed the DVD
kept freezing the OS.

I call Plextor Support and am told that the A8N-SLI Deluxe and PX-716SA
are simply incompatible. Guess I should have looked this up before buying
the two items. There is an issue on (according to the Plextor agent) Asus'
side of the fence that prevents these two from working together.

Apparently, the IDE version of the PX-716 works fine with this MB.

The agent had no ETA for me regarding any possible firmware upgrades that
would fix the issue, or Bios upgrades on Asus' part that would do the
same. But told me that they "are both working on it". I then asked the
agent, "unofficially", how long it could take for them to solve it. He
said 2 months.

I bought these parts less than a week ago. I could probably trade the
716SA for the IDE. But then I'll feel stupid in 2 months if the SATA issue
is fixed and I'm stuck with IDE because I didn't wait.

Putting the DVD on one of the Silicon Image Controller (RAID) ports
/FIXES/ the problem. The drive works. The downside is that I had to enable
RAID to do it (it was previously disabled, speeding up the boot-up process
significantly). And I probably won't ever be able to RAID my drives as
long as the DVD is there (but I could be wrong on that).

So anyway, I now have 2 hard drives on the main SATA controller, and 1 DVD
burner on the SiI.

Everything is working. The question is... do I still bring this drive back
and trade it in for a currently-compatible one (even if less highly rated
overall), or do I stick with this "well, it works" set-up and pray that
Asus/Plextor fix this issue that will allow me to put the DVD back on the
main SATA controller, so I can disable my RAID again, or RAID up my hard
drives?

My computer is currently IDE-free. Ideally, I'd like to remain like this.

Thoughts? Opinions?





  #9  
Old April 1st 05, 07:01 PM
Jon J. Yeager
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What? How the hell did you get it working? We tried everything on this end,
and even Plextor Tech Support told us the two are incompatible... they've
had numerous reports. Asus and Plextor are working on a fix.

You have the PX-716SA (sata) on the A8N-SLI Deluxe as a normal Sata
connection, and it reads and burns? Using either firmware 1.04 or 1.05 (I
tried both)?

Even if it /does/ work for you, unless you can tell me what you did to
/make/ it work, it doesn't help me much. I still have to return it.


"Nocturnal" wrote in message
...

Wrong, it's compatible because I have one and I'm using it perfectly fine.

"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message
...
I just bought a new system... it included the A8N-SLI Deluxe as a
mainboard, and the CD/DVD is the Plextor PX-716SA (SATA). I noticed the
DVD kept freezing the OS.

I call Plextor Support and am told that the A8N-SLI Deluxe and PX-716SA
are simply incompatible. Guess I should have looked this up before buying
the two items. There is an issue on (according to the Plextor agent)
Asus' side of the fence that prevents these two from working together.

Apparently, the IDE version of the PX-716 works fine with this MB.

The agent had no ETA for me regarding any possible firmware upgrades that
would fix the issue, or Bios upgrades on Asus' part that would do the
same. But told me that they "are both working on it". I then asked the
agent, "unofficially", how long it could take for them to solve it. He
said 2 months.

I bought these parts less than a week ago. I could probably trade the
716SA for the IDE. But then I'll feel stupid in 2 months if the SATA
issue is fixed and I'm stuck with IDE because I didn't wait.

Putting the DVD on one of the Silicon Image Controller (RAID) ports
/FIXES/ the problem. The drive works. The downside is that I had to
enable RAID to do it (it was previously disabled, speeding up the boot-up
process significantly). And I probably won't ever be able to RAID my
drives as long as the DVD is there (but I could be wrong on that).

So anyway, I now have 2 hard drives on the main SATA controller, and 1
DVD burner on the SiI.

Everything is working. The question is... do I still bring this drive
back and trade it in for a currently-compatible one (even if less highly
rated overall), or do I stick with this "well, it works" set-up and pray
that Asus/Plextor fix this issue that will allow me to put the DVD back
on the main SATA controller, so I can disable my RAID again, or RAID up
my hard drives?

My computer is currently IDE-free. Ideally, I'd like to remain like this.

Thoughts? Opinions?



  #10  
Old April 1st 05, 08:26 PM
Dave
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Jon J. Yeager wrote:
Just so we're clear here.. the Plextor PX-716A definitely /works/ with the
A8N-SLI Deluxe?

It's only the 716SA that doesn't... right?

I don't want to trade for the IDE model and realize it doesn't work either.
:-/ I am asking because I just realized that while the SA seemed to work
when put on RAID, it only reads - it won't write.

So keeping it is no longer an option. I am either trading it in for the IDE
version, or another brand SATA DVD writer.

Opinions?


Yes, the PX-716A works with my Asus A8N-SLI, however I'm sure the SA
version of the drive is the IDE drive with a IDE to SATA adapter
"bolted" on the back, as the drive is slightly longer that the normal
IDE drive (or it may have been the PX-712SA they did this with, I know
the did it with one of their drives). Still doesn't really help with
your problem.... Sorry.

Note: Plextor released Ver 1.06 for the PX-716A/SA/UF drive today.

Also what bios are you running on your motherboard?

I have and IDE to SATA adapter, so I could see if plugging my PX716A in
to it, then on to the NVidia SATA controller on the A8N-SLI has any
strange effects. However means stripping PC down, but will do it if you
want over the weekend.

What are the symptoms of problem your are experiencing?

Regards,
Dave.
 




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