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Benchmarks from upgrade: Ti4200 => 5900XT, if anyone is interested
There has been a lot of people asking about upgrades from Ti cards, so
I thought I would post my results. System: Dell Dimension 4550, P4 2.53Ghz, 512mb RAM Cards: OEM Nvidia Ti4200 64MB; eVGA FX5900XT 128MB Driver: 61.77 The only two games that I have that will benchmark are Quake3 Arena (dated I know) and UT2003. -------------------------------------- Quake 3, Highest Quality, no sound, 1024x768, no patches installed Ti4200 64MB Demo001 210.0 fps Demo002 222.6 fps 5900XT 128MB Demo001 248.5 +18% improvement Demo002 247.2 +11% -------------------------------------- UT2003 benchmarking utility, latest patch, 1 024x768 Ti4200 64MB Flyby 130.04 Botmatch 53.88 5900XT 128MB Flyby 165.21 +27% improvement Botmatch 56.16 +4% -------------------------------------- [H]ardOCP UT2K3 Benchmarker, high quality, 1024x768 maps: dm-antalus, dom-suntemple, dm-phobos2, dm-inferno, ctf-face3, ctf-citadel, dm-asbestos Ti4200 64MB (all tests averaged) 92.44 5900XT 128MB (all tests averaged) 141.3 +53% improvement RESULTS: Most of the benchmarks are underimpressive. I'm not really sure why the [H]ardOCP benchmarker shows such a drastic improvement while the other benchmarks do not, but the [H] benchmarker runs 7 maps and probably gives a better indicator of performance. If I had cranked the resolution up I think there would have been a more drastic difference on all benchmarks but 1024x768 is what I play at so that is what I tested at. I suppose that at that resolution, my system is CPU bottlenecked. I was able to crank the quality settings to maximum in Call of Duty, before it would chug a bit with everything maxed. I have demos installed of Far Cry, Halo & UT2K4, but I haven't tried them with the new card. Overall I am happy, the TV-out seems a tad bit sharper with the 5900xt but without side-by-side comparisons it a tough call. -- Mac Cool |
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Mac Cool wrote:
There has been a lot of people asking about upgrades from Ti cards, so I thought I would post my results. System: Dell Dimension 4550, P4 2.53Ghz, 512mb RAM Cards: OEM Nvidia Ti4200 64MB; eVGA FX5900XT 128MB Driver: 61.77 The only two games that I have that will benchmark are Quake3 Arena (dated I know) and UT2003. -------------------------------------- Quake 3, Highest Quality, no sound, 1024x768, no patches installed Ti4200 64MB Demo001 210.0 fps Demo002 222.6 fps 5900XT 128MB Demo001 248.5 +18% improvement Demo002 247.2 +11% -------------------------------------- UT2003 benchmarking utility, latest patch, 1 024x768 Ti4200 64MB Flyby 130.04 Botmatch 53.88 5900XT 128MB Flyby 165.21 +27% improvement Botmatch 56.16 +4% -------------------------------------- [H]ardOCP UT2K3 Benchmarker, high quality, 1024x768 maps: dm-antalus, dom-suntemple, dm-phobos2, dm-inferno, ctf-face3, ctf-citadel, dm-asbestos Ti4200 64MB (all tests averaged) 92.44 5900XT 128MB (all tests averaged) 141.3 +53% improvement RESULTS: Most of the benchmarks are underimpressive. I'm not really sure why the [H]ardOCP benchmarker shows such a drastic improvement while the other benchmarks do not, but the [H] benchmarker runs 7 maps and probably gives a better indicator of performance. If I had cranked the resolution up I think there would have been a more drastic difference on all benchmarks but 1024x768 is what I play at so that is what I tested at. I suppose that at that resolution, my system is CPU bottlenecked. I was able to crank the quality settings to maximum in Call of Duty, before it would chug a bit with everything maxed. I have demos installed of Far Cry, Halo & UT2K4, but I haven't tried them with the new card. Overall I am happy, the TV-out seems a tad bit sharper with the 5900xt but without side-by-side comparisons it a tough call. Far Cry, Thief 3, Deus Ex 2 and most newer games will offer you a huge improvement. The more shaders, the more pain for your Ti 4200. "UT2K3" shouldn't be used as a benchmark anymore. It's not as significant as it was two years ago. And it's absolutely ridiculous to compare any modern cards with Quake III when we have frame-rates measured in three digit numbers. "Doom 3" and "Far Cry" are very good games to see whether it's necessary to upgrade the old Ti 4 serie cards. |
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"Mac Cool" wrote in message ... (Nada) said: Far Cry, Thief 3, Deus Ex 2 and most newer games will offer you a huge improvement. I fired up the Far Cry demo, changed the settings from medium to high and it was unplayable. I don't know if the retail version is better optimized but I'm not very impressed with the performance of the demo. UT2K4, which previously chugged, played smooth even with all the settings cranked up. The graphics look damn good too. -- Mac Cool The *patched* version of retail FarCry runs really well on high settings on a 5900XT. The demo and CD versions were slower. Alan |
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"Alan Wright" wrote:
"Mac Cool" wrote: (Nada) said: Far Cry, Thief 3, Deus Ex 2 and most newer games will offer you a huge improvement. I fired up the Far Cry demo, changed the settings from medium to high and it was unplayable. I don't know if the retail version is better optimized but I'm not very impressed with the performance of the demo. UT2K4, which previously chugged, played smooth even with all the settings cranked up. The graphics look damn good too. -- Mac Cool The *patched* version of retail FarCry runs really well on high settings on a 5900XT. The demo and CD versions were slower. Alan If the games run good, and the minimum frame-rates are over 50 fps with the slowest models, I wouldn't consider them good benchmarks anymore. A sign of a good benchmark isn't how well it's able to run, but to see a clear difference on the minimum/average frame-rates by using a heavily implemented shader software. The difference between Ti 4200 and 5900 XT should be at least 30 percent to make it a decent upgrade. I'm pretty sure that the gap is round about that. The minimum frame-rates doubled in "Deus Ex 2". Being able to play it on 20 instead of 10 was really a huge improvement. It was impossible to aim precisely with my old Ti 4200 at 1024 x 768 resolution. 5900 XT was clearly the best buy last spring. |
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Most likely Far cry just an eye candy game with far less efficient engine
compares to UT2k4. And obviously it has a deal with ATI to intensively using shaders, the weakest point of nvidia fx cause the difference between 24bit(ATI) and 32bit(nvidia) full floatpoint precision, to beat the FX series to death. This was also proofed that FX has sharper graphic then ATI in far cry. I can't see too much difference between the graphic effect of these two games. The scenes displayed in Far cry is simply too colorful to be realistic. "Mac Cool" wrote in message ... (Nada) said: Far Cry, Thief 3, Deus Ex 2 and most newer games will offer you a huge improvement. I fired up the Far Cry demo, changed the settings from medium to high and it was unplayable. I don't know if the retail version is better optimized but I'm not very impressed with the performance of the demo. UT2K4, which previously chugged, played smooth even with all the settings cranked up. The graphics look damn good too. -- Mac Cool |
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Most likely Far cry just an eye candy game with far less efficient engine
compares to UT2k4. And obviously it has a deal with ATI to intensively using shaders, the weakest point of nvidia fx cause the difference between 24bit(ATI) and 32bit(nvidia) full floatpoint precision, to beat the FX series to death. This was also proofed that FX has sharper graphic then ATI in far cry. I can't see too much difference between the graphic effect of these two games. The scenes displayed in Far cry is simply too colorful to be realistic. "Mac Cool" wrote in message ... (Nada) said: Far Cry, Thief 3, Deus Ex 2 and most newer games will offer you a huge improvement. I fired up the Far Cry demo, changed the settings from medium to high and it was unplayable. I don't know if the retail version is better optimized but I'm not very impressed with the performance of the demo. UT2K4, which previously chugged, played smooth even with all the settings cranked up. The graphics look damn good too. -- Mac Cool |
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