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Just curious..
What speed increase could I expect by switching from a GF1 with 32MB DDR
RAM to a "plain" FX5700 with 128? And would the graphics detail improve at the same resolution in current = games? TIA. Roger. |
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Sort of like going from a go-cart to a formula one racing cart.
Or like trading a tricycle in for a ten speed. Do you see where I am going with this? "Roger" wrote in message ... What speed increase could I expect by switching from a GF1 with 32MB DDR RAM to a "plain" FX5700 with 128? And would the graphics detail improve at the same resolution in current games? TIA. Roger. |
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I thought I'd get an answer like this. But what I mean is like.. What =
speed increase can I realisticly expect in games? How many times the frame rate if you = will.. I compared relevant systems in the MadOnion database and it showed only = 50% increase in points or so.. I am comparing two different versions, with = different level of detail, so that should mean alot, but how much exactly? If the = 2003 version is, say twise as complex as 2001 then the FX5600 is only 4 times faster = than GF1? I was expecting a much bigger jump I guess. Please correct me if i'm = wrong. Roger. "Dan" wrote in message = news:6vwzb.550819$6C4.499050@pd7tw1no... Sort of like going from a go-cart to a formula one racing cart. Or like trading a tricycle in for a ten speed. Do you see where I am = going with this? =20 "Roger" wrote in message ... What speed increase could I expect by switching from a GF1 with 32MB = DDR RAM to a "plain" FX5700 with 128? =20 And would the graphics detail improve at the same resolution in = current games? =20 TIA. =20 Roger. =20 |
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"Roger" wrote in message
... I compared relevant systems in the MadOnion database and it showed only 50% increase in points or so.. I am comparing two different versions, with different level of detail, so that should mean alot, but how much exactly? If the 2003 version is, say twise as complex as 2001 then the FX5600 is only 4 times faster than GF1? I was expecting a much bigger jump I guess. Please correct me if i'm wrong. Think of it this way... why are you looking to replace your GF1? I would assume because "newer" games are dogging it. This is because older cards are limited by their lower clock speeds and DX compatibility (In your case DX7) as newer games use, say DX 8 or 9 coding. Your older GF1 doesnt support it at the video card level but renders the image using the CPU which then relays it to the card resulting in slower performace. This is why 3dMark2001 skips the 4th game test and the shader tests.... your GF1 doesnt support it at the card level. When I first went from a DX7 card to a DX8.1 card for example I was like "wow". I didnt realize how much detail I had been missing with my DX8 games. Currently have a FX5600 Ultra and couldnt be happier for what I paid for it. You mention "the FX5600 is only 4 times faster than GF1?" that is a 400% increase over 4 years with much better detail.... If only my pay went up at that rate. |
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"Helion" wrote in message =
... Think of it this way... why are you looking to replace your GF1? I = would assume because "newer" games are dogging it. This is because older = cards are limited by their lower clock speeds and DX compatibility (In your = case DX7) as newer games use, say DX 8 or 9 coding. Your older GF1 doesnt support it at the video card level but renders the image using the CPU = which then relays it to the card resulting in slower performace. This is = why 3dMark2001 skips the 4th game test and the shader tests.... your GF1 = doesnt support it at the card level. When I first went from a DX7 card to a = DX8.1 card for example I was like "wow". I didnt realize how much detail I = had been missing with my DX8 games. Currently have a FX5600 Ultra and = couldnt be happier for what I paid for it. You mention "the FX5600 is only 4 = times faster than GF1?" that is a 400% increase over 4 years with much = better detail.... If only my pay went up at that rate. You do have a point Thanks alot to you and the rest for good answers! It's comforting to = know that it's well worth the upgrade. The games like Max Payne 2 still run OK in 640x480 resolution on GF1 but = I would prefer to double it to get the details back. The FSAA on this card is = just useless. All in all the PC isn't state of the art anymore so I have to get it = renewed bit by bit, and I'll start with the gfx card. I think the CPU (PIII / 1,2 GHZ) = should handle it well enough till I get the opportunety to get a new mobo, ram etc.. Again, thanks. |
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Greetings...
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 03:21:21 +0100, "Roger" wrote: I thought I'd get an answer like this. But what I mean is like.. What speed increase can I realisticly expect in games? How many times the frame rate if you will.. Your milage may vary... But his answer was correct - in your case- with the info you have so far provided, the answer is entirely subjective... The first thing you will notice are all the really nice textures and colors you have never seen before! Then you will be amazed at the incredible framerate and smoothness of everything. The fog actually looks wispy and foggy, the lighting is subdued and looks strangely more real.... Your spine will tingle in scenes that you had before started yawning in... Your games will all suddenly become NEW again... Then you will notice that your aiming sucks, and for awhile, you will play like a newbie because all your skills have to be relearned to cope with all the new information and the faster framerate. You will actually get lost on levels you know well... Because everything looks different, better, and you won't have the same visual cues you had before.... Like he said, going from a go-cart to a formula 1 racer... You may know how to drive, and you may be a great driver in a go-cart, but driving a F1 is not the same thing! Relish the experience... It's a neat thing... A real live thrill ride when you first upgrade.. Then the new wears off... 6 months later - you start thinking of upgrading again... It's kind of like crack... ll Kanda' SPAM-KILLER- If you really want to contact me, then - kandajeatbresnandotnet You figure it out... |
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Depends on what you do, if you machines largest task is email and word processing you won't notice a whole lot.
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Roger" wrote in message ... What speed increase could I expect by switching from a GF1 with 32MB DDR RAM to a "plain" FX5700 with 128? And would the graphics detail improve at the same resolution in current games? TIA. Roger. |
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"Roger" wrote in message
... What speed increase could I expect by switching from a GF1 with 32MB DDR RAM to a "plain" FX5700 with 128? That depends on whether you have a CPU of the same era as your GF1, if that is the case then don't expect much better performance at all. The only difference is you'll be able to run at higher res with FSAA and things like that on, but your CPU will be a fat bottleneck. |
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"Darkfalz" wrote in message = ... "Roger" wrote in message ... What speed increase could I expect by switching from a GF1 with 32MB = DDR RAM to a "plain" FX5700 with 128? =20 That depends on whether you have a CPU of the same era as your GF1, if = that is the case then don't expect much better performance at all. The only difference is you'll be able to run at higher res with FSAA and things = like that on, but your CPU will be a fat bottleneck. How will a PIII / 1,2GHZ handle it? Or do I need something closer to the double of that. |
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"Roger" wrote in message
... "Darkfalz" wrote in message ... "Roger" wrote in message ... What speed increase could I expect by switching from a GF1 with 32MB DDR RAM to a "plain" FX5700 with 128? That depends on whether you have a CPU of the same era as your GF1, if that is the case then don't expect much better performance at all. The only difference is you'll be able to run at higher res with FSAA and things like that on, but your CPU will be a fat bottleneck. How will a PIII / 1,2GHZ handle it? Or do I need something closer to the double of that. Dude, a P3 1.2 GHz is not NEARLY enough for that card. A FX 5200 would max that piece of ****. But like I said, if you got the FX 5700 then you would be able to run all your games with 4xFSAA and 8 tap ansio at the same framerates you're getting now. |
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