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John wrote: Hi. I am just after some advice on A4 paper. I don't know too much about the different grades and weights, but what I am looking for at the moment is something that is really good quality and will allow me to print on both sides of the paper without the ink showing through to the other side and without the paper curling after it has been printed on. Regular cheap office paper (I think this is 80gsm whatever gsm means!) is no good for this. I have been using white card, which does what I want however it takes twice as long to print on white card and it costs a lot more for the card and the ink. I would really like something that would still be classed as paper and can be sucked through my printer on sheet feed instead of manual (without any jams), but obviously is more heavy weight than regular paper, were the ink can't be seen through the paper and it doesn't cost a lot to buy. What should I be looking for? Can you recommend what grade of paper would fit this purpose and were I can buy cheaply? Thanks for any recommendations John Hi John... With all due respect, you haven't made the mistake that many newbies (myself included) make, have you? That is... try to get better quality prints by telling the printer that you're using better paper than you in fact are? I ask because, if you put in plain paper and then select for instance photo quality, the result will be horrendously excess ink, which will saturate the paper, ruining it and wasting gobs of ink. If you put in plain paper, select plain paper Take care. Ken |
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"John" wrote in message
... Hi. I am just after some advice on A4 paper. I don't know too much about the different grades and weights, but what I am looking for at the moment is something that is really good quality and will allow me to print on both sides of the paper without the ink showing through to the other side and without the paper curling after it has been printed on. Regular cheap office paper (I think this is 80gsm whatever gsm means!) is no good for this. I have been using white card, which does what I want however it takes twice as long to print on white card and it costs a lot more for the card and the ink. I would really like something that would still be classed as paper and can be sucked through my printer on sheet feed instead of manual (without any jams), but obviously is more heavy weight than regular paper, were the ink can't be seen through the paper and it doesn't cost a lot to buy. What should I be looking for? Can you recommend what grade of paper would fit this purpose and were I can buy cheaply? Thanks for any recommendations John John - General purpose paper does not have the special coating that gives the best quality prints (other than text and small areas of graphics) with inkjet printers. My experience is only with dye-based printers, both Epson and Canon. There are papers that are especially coated to prevent the inkjet inks from permeating the paper fibers and bleeding through. Most manufacturers make them and they have various names. I've used Kodak papers that are for catalog or presentation pages, Epson High Quality inkjet letter paper, and Epson Matte heavyweight paper. These are prepared for one-side printing with a coating on only one side. For greeting cards I've used Epson double sided Matte paper and Staples photo supreme double sided matte paper. these are both card stock that will feed in my Canon i960 when stacked about 12 at a time. They are coated on both sides and print very good images on both sides with very little showing through the back. I like the feel of the Staples paper better than the Epson as it is a little heavier and has more "snap." I live in San Francisco, and I watch the ads in the Sunday paper for the occasional special two for one sale on all Epson papers. I did get the same deal on the Staples paper once, and I suspect that they will put it out as a special again in the future. I then stock up for holiday and greeting card runs that I do throughout the year. These two papers are comparable to the fold-over cards and envelope sets that are sold as boxed sets for inkjet printing, but they are much cheaper to use. The big box office supply stores have envelopes sized for a fold-over card made on a whole sheet of 8.5x11 paper and another for a fold-over card printed on 5.5x8.5 paper. |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:42:19 +0000, John wrote:
Hi. I am just after some advice on A4 paper. I don't know too much about the different grades and weights, but what I am looking for at the moment is something that is really good quality and will allow me to print on both sides of the paper without the ink showing through to the other side and without the paper curling after it has been printed on. Regular cheap office paper (I think this is 80gsm whatever gsm means!) is no good for this. I have been using white card, which does what I want however it takes twice as long to print on white card and it costs a lot more for the card and the ink. I would really like something that would still be classed as paper and can be sucked through my printer on sheet feed instead of manual (without any jams), but obviously is more heavy weight than regular paper, were the ink can't be seen through the paper and it doesn't cost a lot to buy. What should I be looking for? Can you recommend what grade of paper would fit this purpose and were I can buy cheaply? Thanks for any recommendations John You did not mention what paper you are using, but in the US, HP has a 'Matte Presentation Paper', which is about the same weight as standard typing paper. It's more opaque, and coated so that you can print on both sides. It says it's 'universal', but I have no idea how well it would work with non-HP printers. I don't know if they make an A4 sized one for the UK, but Staples has it over here. --- http://www.FenrirOnline.com Computer services, custom metal etching, arts, crafts, and much more. |
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In message , John
writes Can anyone recommend any main office supply stores or photocopy places in the UK that would sell a whole range of paper at reasonable prices? Would somewhere like Staples or Prontaprint sell different types of paper? I am in Leeds, Yorkshire. I am thinking that perhaps 120gsm paper would probably be right for what I need to do. Something like Navigator Colour paper, Xerox Colourtech Plus or Neusiedler Colour Copy paper. I think online this is working out at about £17 for 500 sheets, so I am not bothered if I have to pay slightly more than this if I can get it in the shops tomorrow. Ouch, you can get the stuff for a lot less than that, eg viking-direct.co.uk has quite a wide range of paper. Both the Neusiedler and Colortech papers are primarily set up for laser use, but that shouldn't be an issue. When I last used an inkjet (6/7 years ago) I found Viking's Imperial paper was quite decent at 100 gsm and I think its about £6 per ream. Staples/Office World, maybe even PC World[1], would be good places to go and look at paper to get an idea, I know our local Staples has little samples of some of the papers so you can give it a good fondle and caress [1]Q: Where in the world is PC World? A: He's hiding in the hedge with a speed camera. -- Timothy |
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John wrote:
Hi. I am just after some advice on A4 paper. Thanks for any recommendations John I use a 90 gsm paper. Its branded Hewlett Packard HP Bright White re order number C5977b http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en...-65852445.html Think this is what you require check the specs. rm |
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In message , John
writes Yes I am using an inkjet printer. I am in the UK so most things are metric here, well except for travelling distance we use Miles. I still buy beer in pints (or more often half-pints!) and some groceries are packaged in very strange metric sizes which turn out to be the equivalent of imperial sizes.. I will have to try find somewhere I can buy some 100gsm paper from tomorrow and see if that works for me. All the usual stationary suppliers stock it, and some have 120gsm as well. Thanks John -- Surfer! Email to: ramwater at uk2 dot net |
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In message , Surfer!
writes In message , John writes Yes I am using an inkjet printer. I am in the UK so most things are metric here, well except for travelling distance we use Miles. I still buy beer in pints (or more often half-pints!) and some groceries are packaged in very strange metric sizes which turn out to be the equivalent of imperial sizes.. Beware things that look like four pints of milk but turn out to be only two litres - you're being diddled out of nearly half a pint. For those on the other side of the Atlantic, when you go and buy a pint in the pub you get short changed too, since ours is 20 fluid ounces as opposed to your 16 -- Timothy |
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HP sells a Brochure Paper that can be printed on both sides.
Gordo "John" wrote in message ... Hi. I am just after some advice on A4 paper. I don't know too much about the different grades and weights, but what I am looking for at the moment is something that is really good quality and will allow me to print on both sides of the paper without the ink showing through to the other side and without the paper curling after it has been printed on. Regular cheap office paper (I think this is 80gsm whatever gsm means!) is no good for this. I have been using white card, which does what I want however it takes twice as long to print on white card and it costs a lot more for the card and the ink. I would really like something that would still be classed as paper and can be sucked through my printer on sheet feed instead of manual (without any jams), but obviously is more heavy weight than regular paper, were the ink can't be seen through the paper and it doesn't cost a lot to buy. What should I be looking for? Can you recommend what grade of paper would fit this purpose and were I can buy cheaply? Thanks for any recommendations John |
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For those on the other side of the Atlantic, when you go and buy a pint
in the pub you get short changed too, since ours is 20 fluid ounces as opposed to your 16 Such sillyness with measurments. It does make me wish that we went metric rather than imperial... at least metric was a standard wher emperial decided to change. Either that or we got it wrong, not sure on that point. But I don't feel I get short changed in pubs. I have a choice between a glass (12oz) and pint (16oz) or either an imperial pint (20oz) or a mondo pint (22 or 24oz). Bottles I buy are either the 12oz size, or the 20 to 24 range though typicaly 22. I've seen 8oz and 10oz though only for lucky lager or mickey's big mouth. |
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