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FYI:
I have a new 8KNXP using a direct connect Cat5e cable to a CNet 1gbs card in my server. This works at 1gbs - although some (IE ALL) of the disc drives on the server are not capable of much at all. The CNet card is a 64 bit card in a 32 bit PCI 2 slot. The server runs an Asus P2B-DS with dual P 2 400's running W2KS. The only hassles in installing this config we 1) I had a cat5 cable - didn't like that & said there were missing pairs etc. This cable went through wall sockets etc, so rather than stuff around to find where I had made a wiring mistake if any, or a poor connection I just augmented the cable with a new direct connect cat5e cable without any intervening sockets, plugs or other failure points. 2) the CNet driver on floppy was stuffed - caused W2K BSOD's. The error (0x21 I think) indicated a checksum error in the driver file, so I downloaded the most recent driver (appears to be older) and used that instead. Works flawlessly now. My reason for the faster link is for faster backups of the server disc to disc over the network. When the backup is processing large files on the faster discs I get around 100% improvement in throughput using 1gbs - IE from about 6MBs to about 12 (the drives are slow). Where there are many small files EG a W2K system directory, there is not improvement in throughput - it still goes as slow as 100 - 200 KBs (yes K) turning over many dozens of files per second - this is process and / or disc / seek bound. I get a faster backup - shaving around 1/2 hour a night off a full system backup, so I get more sleep Peak performance on the link is aroung 15MBs - twice that previous - this is *good* as far as I am concerned as when the server is replaced (soon - anyone want to buy it?) the rest of the network will already be heading in the right direction. BTW I am using NTBackup - a different backup package would no doubt result in a substantial performance gain. So the moral? As you would expect. 1gbs is quick, don't expect old systems to give performance where none is to be got. The improved (reduced) turn around time in the network no doubt contributes for backups, but the amount is tiny. The 1gbs interfaces are a lot more flexible - they don't care about direct connect, cross over cables, duplex or half duplex, or how fast the other end is - they just run at the best speed for the conditions. I won't be buying any more 100mbs cards from now on. Shame you had so many problems. HTH - Tim wrote in message ... Has anyone else noticed a problem with the onboard "Intel Pro/1000 CT Desktop" ethernet controller only detecting a 10 MB network, even if you're on a 100 MB network? How can you tell? I have a P2P with three computers (two now since the notebook is in the shop), and I have no problems that I'm aware of. It says so in the Intel PROset software that came with the motherboard. There's a button that says, "Test Link Speed". When I test it, this is what it says back: "A Category 5 cable is required to run at 1000 Mbps. The cable connected to the device either has only two pairs or has faulty wires." Also, the 100 light on the router is turned out for this port - only the 10 is turned on. FYI, I have tried switching to another jack and also tested the cable with another computer (works at 100 there). There's also a "Test Cable" button, and that doesn't detect any errors on the line. The funny part, is I made this particular wire myself using Cat5e cable, so it should be good for 100 or 1000. I don't have any problems with any of my other computers reaching 100 - I'm not really going for the full 1000 speed here (I personally thing that's a waste of time until hard drives become faster). Their stupid software thinks there's a bad wire or something, and I tested all 8 wires myself, and they're fine. I even tested it with multiple patch cords. Is it generating errors? No there are no errors. |
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Hey Zippy,
Thanks for the reply. That's very interesting stuff. That thought actually crossed my mind too. I've never had good luck with Intel networking equipment. I usually go with D-Link or Netgear. I really like Netgear, but their stuff isn't as peppy as D-Link and it costs more. Almost like the old days with US Robotics Courier modems, compared to the cheapie modems that would smoke them (sorry, getting off the topic there). Anyway, what you were saying about the Intel chipsets being too sloppy with their timing and causing the switches to sense a fault - or they are too rigid and are flagging a fault on a valid datastream. That totally makes sense to me, because that's what I was kind of gathering while I was testing it. It seemed to me like it was jumping to conclusions, and just selecting the wrong spec or not giving it enough time to really determine the best solution. I wish I knew more about how it determines the speed internally, because then I could probably fix it. I did exactly as you did, I tried to adjust the Flow Control and all the other settings, but they didn't help. I even messed with the PME settings for the NIC, and in my BIOS - nothing made any difference. I flashed my BIOS too, and even tried newer PROset drivers and chipset drivers. Sometimes it would sense a 1 Gig network connection, and then switch to "Cable Unplugged". I was interpreting it as, it's sensing all 8 wires, but then something went wrong and it dropped the connection. That's very strange behavior from a NIC card, especially considering I only have a 100 mb network. I was thinking about what you said, about putting a cheap D-Link NIC into the computer to fix the problem. In my opinion, the best solution would be to buy a cheap hub. This way you can keep your PCI bus free for other things. Oh, as an FYI, I'm now running at 100 mbps Full Duplex, and there have been 0 Send / Receive errors. Pretty good for a homemade cable, huh? Anyway, thanks again. Nobody wrote in message Is anyone out there running this same exact board on a 100mbps network successfully? Yes - Ive found Intel Pro chipsets to be very temperamental with regard to the switches they will talk to. This applies to both the Gigabit capable and the standard 10/100MB series. Generally as a rule of thumb I find them to work successfully on high spec (IE Cisco) and medium spec (IE DLink backbone/3225G upwards etc) switches. They also work fine on cheap hubs - however on cheap switches they are frequently useless. EG with a Dlink DES1016 they initially connect without a problem but as soon as you put any load on them then the connection slows down or breaks totally. Putting a cheap (£10/$15) Dlink 530Tx card in the machine is the cheapest solution Ive found. Its not just the Gigabyte boards that have the problem - our Dell notebooks that use the Intel Pro 10/100MB chipsets have the same problem. I have tried reconfiguring the Intel chipsets, changing the flow control mechanism, interframe spacing, switching to half duplex - nothing helps. I suspect its a timing problem - either the Intel chipsets are too sloppy with their timing causing the switches to sense a fault - or they are too rigid and are flagging a fault on a valid datastream. regards, Zippy. |
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I have a Netgear RT314 connected to my 8KNXP, a Macintosh G4 DP 1ghz and
another PC, an nforce2 rig. I have no idea how to determine the network speed. Tell me how and I will check it. wrote in message ... Also check to make sure you're running at full duplex as well. Well, I checked eveything I could, and it all looks fine. I just had a good idea... I'm going to test it through a hub, and see if this NIC is incompatible with my router. I figure the hub will talk to the router, thus bypassing the whole situation of this NIC talking directly to the router. Guess what guys?!! It worked! Going through the hub it has no problem connecting at 100. FYI, I'm using the same exact cable to connect, and I previously tested other ports on the router. Now I just have to figure out why this NIC doesn't like my router - I have a Netgear RT314. Anyone else using one with this motherboard successfully? Thanks everyone for all your help, I really really appreciate it. This was driving me up a wall. I might have to email Intel and Netgear to see if they know anything we don't. I'm just glad to be back at 100! |
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Do you have Windows 2000 or XP on any of them? If so, you can go to
the Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Del) and it will tell you on the Network tab at the bottom usually. Also you can use the Intel PROset software to tell you. Another way to tell (for XP and 2k) is to click Start / Settings / Control Panel / Network Connection / Local Area Network. And lastly, you can check the Link/Act lights on your router, since you have the RT314. If the light for 100 is out, you're running at 10. Nobody I have a Netgear RT314 connected to my 8KNXP, a Macintosh G4 DP 1ghz and another PC, an nforce2 rig. I have no idea how to determine the network speed. Tell me how and I will check it. wrote in message .. . Also check to make sure you're running at full duplex as well. Well, I checked eveything I could, and it all looks fine. I just had a good idea... I'm going to test it through a hub, and see if this NIC is incompatible with my router. I figure the hub will talk to the router, thus bypassing the whole situation of this NIC talking directly to the router. Guess what guys?!! It worked! Going through the hub it has no problem connecting at 100. FYI, I'm using the same exact cable to connect, and I previously tested other ports on the router. Now I just have to figure out why this NIC doesn't like my router - I have a Netgear RT314. Anyone else using one with this motherboard successfully? Thanks everyone for all your help, I really really appreciate it. This was driving me up a wall. I might have to email Intel and Netgear to see if they know anything we don't. I'm just glad to be back at 100! |
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Both my router (doh!) and Windows Task Manager (XP) report my speed at
100mbps. wrote in message ... Do you have Windows 2000 or XP on any of them? If so, you can go to the Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Del) and it will tell you on the Network tab at the bottom usually. Also you can use the Intel PROset software to tell you. Another way to tell (for XP and 2k) is to click Start / Settings / Control Panel / Network Connection / Local Area Network. And lastly, you can check the Link/Act lights on your router, since you have the RT314. If the light for 100 is out, you're running at 10. Nobody I have a Netgear RT314 connected to my 8KNXP, a Macintosh G4 DP 1ghz and another PC, an nforce2 rig. I have no idea how to determine the network speed. Tell me how and I will check it. wrote in message .. . Also check to make sure you're running at full duplex as well. Well, I checked eveything I could, and it all looks fine. I just had a good idea... I'm going to test it through a hub, and see if this NIC is incompatible with my router. I figure the hub will talk to the router, thus bypassing the whole situation of this NIC talking directly to the router. Guess what guys?!! It worked! Going through the hub it has no problem connecting at 100. FYI, I'm using the same exact cable to connect, and I previously tested other ports on the router. Now I just have to figure out why this NIC doesn't like my router - I have a Netgear RT314. Anyone else using one with this motherboard successfully? Thanks everyone for all your help, I really really appreciate it. This was driving me up a wall. I might have to email Intel and Netgear to see if they know anything we don't. I'm just glad to be back at 100! |
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Both my router (doh!) and Windows Task Manager (XP) report my speed at
100mbps. Okay - thanks for the info. Have you ever upgraded the Firmware on your router? I'm using V3.24, but they have a V3.25 out now. Also, just to verify: You're using the GA-8KNXP motherboard, right? And your computer is directly plugged into the route, not going through a hub or anything else first? I was looking for a motherboard Revision number, but I don't see one on this motherboard... We might have different revisions of the board, and that's why yours works and mine doesn't. Does anyone know how to find the revision for this board? There might even be different revisions of this router, outside of the firmware. Nobody |
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My two year old Netgear Rt314's firmware is currently 3.25
So you are using a new firmware than mine. Maybe I should upgrade mine too. They claim the upgrade to 3.25 won't affect US users, or something like that (was meant for people in Europe). I have the 8knxp (non ultra) motherboard and it is about a month old. Silkscreened on the board btwn the northbridge hs/fan and the adjacent dimm slot is the model number and revision. Mine is rev 1.0 Thanks, I found it! Yeah, mine is the same rev 1.0. The lan port is plugged directly into the router. Do you get the same result with every lan port on the router? Every once in a while it seems that one of mine goes quiet. I tested multiple ports on the router, and they were all the same. I've never had any problems with that router before. Have you tried the latest Intel driver set? It's at version 1015 I think. Mine says it's version 8.0.0.0 - numbers don't really match what you said above. Where did you find that version number? If you think it's the board, request an rma and replacement from your vendor. Retailers like newegg allow you to replace a defective board up to a year after your purchase. I don't think the board is broken, but the problem is coming from the Intel chip or software. As I stated before, I am running at 100 now, but going through a hub into the router. Thanks for all your help. Nobody |
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