Nvidia SLI, SLI's back with a vengeance

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I never did like the SLI configuration...took up two PCI slots
and kept you from installing anything else....all for what???

....1024x768?? You've got to be kidding???

Why not make a long PCI card with multiple GPU daughter card snap-on like a
ram extender.

That would save us the few and precious PCI-E slots.

So I guess with so many extra GPU cards...they'll all need two dedicated
molex connectors?

I think I'll pass on that...


Redbrick..who Loves his CLK

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:54:12 -0400, "FatDaddy"
wrote:

THIS IS A JOKE

3DFX?

REMEMBER VOODOO 6000

NO ONE WILL MAKE A 16X PCI DUAL SLOT MOTHER BOARD OTHER THEN SERVER SYSTEMS
AND YOU WILL NEED 800 WATTS POWER
O WOW
NVIDA HAS LOST i ALREADY HAVE MY ATI X800 XT PRO INSTALLED

Where ?

Does it fit ?

Your mouth seems too big for it, since you have kept repeating the
glorious news that you have some sort of X800 for the past 2 weeks.

Ati claim to make the following:-
X800 Pro
X800 XT
X800 XT Platinum.

Don't see a X800 XT Pro anywhere.............

Anyway, if the X800 ?? does not fit your mouth, there are other
quite suitable apertures

John Lewis

On 28 Jun 2004 15:46:17 GMT, (Dark Avenger) wrote:

"SLIisBACK" wrote in
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Nvidia SLI, SLI's back with a vengeance Jun 28, 2004, 07:30 AM


By the time this setup's price would come into most of the
game player's budget, the next great videocard chipset would hit the
market, boosting performance to rival, or surpass the dual card setup.
Unless the mainboard manufactuers start producing desktop mainnboards
with dual PCI-X slots, I don't see this as something that will take
off in the home user market.
Hell... By the time dual 12MB Voodoo2 SLI cards came into my
price range, the GF2 cards where dominating, and the GF3 cards where
about to hit the market.

And you are wrong. There will be dual PCI-E 16X boards. Alienware are
preparing to launch machines with this very setup.

Well no, actually it's not quite the same setup, although you are
correct that Alienware will use two PCI-X slots. Alienware's
technology does not use a molex connector between the cards. They use
a proprietary chipset to do the connection. They are in it with Wicked
3D, remember them? NVidea has the patents from 3DFX and is a chipset
manufacturer themselves, doubt VERY much that they won't be the ones
to develop the motherboard SLI enabling chipsets. Now ATI, not ones to
sit back and watch Nvidia walk all over them, will surely either come
up with an SLI compatible card or team up with Alienware (doubt they
would put all their eggs in one basket tho..) to counter it.

JMHO of course..

G Patricks

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:57:36 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:


Note by the way that the Alienware board is not going to support arbitrary
video boards--according to their press release it is going to be tied to
specific models and combines the video using a third board.

In essence, couldn't you say the same for Nvidia's solution? They are
tying together two cards with a third PCB.

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:46:26 GMT, (Redbrick)
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Nvidia SLI, SLI's back with a vengeance Jun 28, 2004, 07:30 AM

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I never did like the SLI configuration...took up two PCI slots
and kept you from installing anything else....all for what???

...1024x768?? You've got to be kidding???

Why not make a long PCI card with multiple GPU daughter card snap-on like a
ram extender.

That would save us the few and precious PCI-E slots.

So I guess with so many extra GPU cards...they'll all need two dedicated
molex connectors?

I think I'll pass on that...


Redbrick..who Loves his CLK

What are you saving those PCI slots for anyway? The only thing
currently occupying my five PCI slots is a sound card. In these days
of onboard NIC's, onboard RAID, etc., etc., there is less of a need
for PCI slots.

Larry Roberts wrote in message . ..
On 28 Jun 2004 15:46:17 GMT, (Dark Avenger) wrote:

"SLIisBACK" wrote in
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http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/ar...arge/11206.jpg
http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/ar...arge/11208.jpg
http://media.hardwareanalysis.com/ar...arge/11207.jpg

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/article/1728/

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Nvidia SLI, SLI's back with a vengeance Jun 28, 2004, 07:30 AM


By the time this setup's price would come into most of the
game player's budget, the next great videocard chipset would hit the
market, boosting performance to rival, or surpass the dual card setup.
Unless the mainboard manufactuers start producing desktop mainnboards
with dual PCI-X slots, I don't see this as something that will take
off in the home user market.
Hell... By the time dual 12MB Voodoo2 SLI cards came into my
price range, the GF2 cards where dominating, and the GF3 cards where
about to hit the market.

I don't see why I should spend $1000 or more for 2 GeForce 6800s when
I will be able to get an NV50 next year with similar or better
performance and newer features for about half the price

Folk wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 05:46:26 GMT, (Redbrick)
wrote:

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Nvidia SLI, SLI's back with a vengeance Jun 28, 2004, 07:30 AM

snip

I never did like the SLI configuration...took up two PCI slots
and kept you from installing anything else....all for what???

...1024x768?? You've got to be kidding???

Why not make a long PCI card with multiple GPU daughter card snap-on like
a ram extender.

That would save us the few and precious PCI-E slots.

So I guess with so many extra GPU cards...they'll all need two dedicated
molex connectors?

I think I'll pass on that...


Redbrick..who Loves his CLK

What are you saving those PCI slots for anyway? The only thing
currently occupying my five PCI slots is a sound card. In these days
of onboard NIC's, onboard RAID, etc., etc., there is less of a need
for PCI slots.

It's not a "PCI slot", it's a "PCI _Express_" slot. There's a difference.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Folk wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 21:57:36 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:


Note by the way that the Alienware board is not going to support arbitrary
video boards--according to their press release it is going to be tied to
specific models and combines the video using a third board.

In essence, couldn't you say the same for Nvidia's solution? They are
tying together two cards with a third PCB.

The Alienware design doesn't use a bridgeboard between the two video boards,
it feeds the video outputs of the two into a third PCI analog video merger
board that has the video output to the monitor on it. Further, the output
is analog-only. And, incidentally, it's been demonstrated with 5900
boards.

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--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 00:17:18 -0500, "SLIisBACK"
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Nvidia SLI, SLI's back with a vengeance Jun 28, 2004, 07:30 AM

By: Sander Sassen



See the new Anandtech article:-
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2097

Not the SLI that we knoew and loved but a totally different
patented technique for sharing GPU loads in an intelligent manner.
They have the rights inherited from 3dfx to the name "SLI" for
GPU load-sharing.

It is pretty obvious that nVidia's current dual board "SLI" exercise
is a Trojan horse to test the functionality of the GPU shared-port and
build optimizing drivers/compilers in preparation for multiple GPUs on
one board.a la 3dfx V5 5500. This situation will become a reality
with the current round of design exercises at both nVidia ( and Ati )
to shrink the 6800 ( and X800 ) on to a smaller geometry process,
probably 110nm, and later 65nm. For nVidia, the resulting reduction
of the power per chip will certainly make a dual-GPU/board a
reality, or maybe even a dual GPU on a hybrid substrate.
Parallel graphics processing is becoming a mandatory requirement.
Process shrinks are not occuring fast enough to keep up with
the signal processing demands. Parallelism is the way to keep
the chip-yield up and the on-chip dissipation/unit-area within
reasonable bounds.

Intel is actively working on CPU dual-core parallel-architectures
too, beyond HT. They have realised that they are getting near
the limits of pushing clock-rate, and have to come up with other
solutions.

John Lewis