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Old January 20th 04, 05:57 AM
Etno
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Default Locked Processors? (and simple overclocking question)

Hey folks,

I'm about to buy an Athlon 2500+ 333 512K. I had been debating if I should
get the Nforce2 Ultra 400 Chipset (on a DFI NFII Ultra-Al mobo) and PC3200
memory and then overclock it so that the FSB runs at 200 and the CPU at
3200+.

But, now I'm hearing about locked processors. What does this mean exactly?
Does it mean that if the processor I get is locked, then I won't be to
overclock it? Or, does it mean that I still can overclock it but just not
as much, or not as easy? I'm new to Overclocking so now I'm a bit confused
what effect a locked processor can have.

Also, if I overclock in the manner I said above, how much risk is involved?
I mean, I've got a great PSU and Case and plan to get a good heatsink/fan,
so I know I can keep the temps down, but aside from temps, is there still
great chance for damage and/or an unstable system (assuming I don't
overclock any higher then what I said above)? Or, is overclocking the FSB
to 200 pretty conservative and nothing I should worry much about?

Thanks for the input!


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Old January 20th 04, 06:11 AM
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If the cpu is locked it means that you cant overclock by changing the
multiplier, but you can overclock using the fsb.

doughnut



"Etno" wrote in message
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Hey folks,

I'm about to buy an Athlon 2500+ 333 512K. I had been debating if I

should
get the Nforce2 Ultra 400 Chipset (on a DFI NFII Ultra-Al mobo) and PC3200
memory and then overclock it so that the FSB runs at 200 and the CPU at
3200+.

But, now I'm hearing about locked processors. What does this mean

exactly?
Does it mean that if the processor I get is locked, then I won't be to
overclock it? Or, does it mean that I still can overclock it but just not
as much, or not as easy? I'm new to Overclocking so now I'm a bit

confused
what effect a locked processor can have.

Also, if I overclock in the manner I said above, how much risk is

involved?
I mean, I've got a great PSU and Case and plan to get a good heatsink/fan,
so I know I can keep the temps down, but aside from temps, is there still
great chance for damage and/or an unstable system (assuming I don't
overclock any higher then what I said above)? Or, is overclocking the FSB
to 200 pretty conservative and nothing I should worry much about?

Thanks for the input!




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Old January 20th 04, 06:59 AM
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"Doughnut" wrote in message
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If the cpu is locked it means that you cant overclock by changing the
multiplier, but you can overclock using the fsb.


Oh...ok. So then what I was planning on doing should work then, right? I
mean, I had heard that by changing the FSB to 200, it boosts the CPU to
3200+. Is there any multiplier changing required also?


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Old January 20th 04, 07:53 AM
Etno
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"Etno" wrote in message
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"Doughnut" wrote in message
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If the cpu is locked it means that you cant overclock by changing the
multiplier, but you can overclock using the fsb.


Oh...ok. So then what I was planning on doing should work then, right? I
mean, I had heard that by changing the FSB to 200, it boosts the CPU to
3200+. Is there any multiplier changing required also?


Nevermind that part. Found the answer on the net. No multiplier changing
should be necessary. Just overclock the fsb to 200 and that'll boost it to
a 3200+ as well.

But....back to the other part of my question.

How much risk is there in OC'ing the FSB to 200? Is there a pretty decent
chance of screwin up my system or having an unreliable one? Or, since I'm
gonna make sure the temps are kept low, is this a pretty safe overclock?

Thanks!


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Old January 20th 04, 09:01 AM
James Paraskeva
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Etno wrote:
"Etno" wrote in message
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"Doughnut" wrote in message
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If the cpu is locked it means that you cant overclock by changing the
multiplier, but you can overclock using the fsb.


Oh...ok. So then what I was planning on doing should work then, right? I
mean, I had heard that by changing the FSB to 200, it boosts the CPU to
3200+. Is there any multiplier changing required also?



Nevermind that part. Found the answer on the net. No multiplier changing
should be necessary. Just overclock the fsb to 200 and that'll boost it to
a 3200+ as well.

But....back to the other part of my question.

How much risk is there in OC'ing the FSB to 200? Is there a pretty decent
chance of screwin up my system or having an unreliable one? Or, since I'm
gonna make sure the temps are kept low, is this a pretty safe overclock?

Thanks!


it should be safe enough if your processor is new... if your cpu is
locked it should be new enough to run at 200 fsb. With a small (or not
at all..) voltage increase
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Old January 20th 04, 09:09 AM
Wes Newell
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 04:57:57 +0000, Etno wrote:

I'm about to buy an Athlon 2500+ 333 512K. I had been debating if I should
get the Nforce2 Ultra 400 Chipset (on a DFI NFII Ultra-Al mobo) and PC3200
memory and then overclock it so that the FSB runs at 200 and the CPU at
3200+.

Get PC4000 ram just to be safe. Some PC3200 ram isn't reliable at 200MHz.
ANy PC4000 ram should be and it's not that much more.

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Old January 20th 04, 03:48 PM
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"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 04:57:57 +0000, Etno wrote:

I'm about to buy an Athlon 2500+ 333 512K. I had been debating if I

should
get the Nforce2 Ultra 400 Chipset (on a DFI NFII Ultra-Al mobo) and

PC3200
memory and then overclock it so that the FSB runs at 200 and the CPU at
3200+.

Get PC4000 ram just to be safe. Some PC3200 ram isn't reliable at 200MHz.
ANy PC4000 ram should be and it's not that much more.


Thanks for the advice. I'm getting a good deal on the PC3200 though. The
cheapest PC4000 I can find is more then double the price of the deal I'm
getting.

How is Kingston ValueRam? Should I be good with that do you think?


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Old January 20th 04, 07:10 PM
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How is Kingston ValueRam? Should I be good with that do you think?



Although I use it, CL3 ram is NOT recommended by ASUS. I have
a KVR400X64C3/512 Value Ram but I have not OC'd yet. (heat issues).

Lo

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Old January 20th 04, 10:19 PM
Wes Newell
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 14:48:24 +0000, Etno wrote:

How is Kingston ValueRam? Should I be good with that do you think?


Don't know personally, but I think I've heard of issues with it. Try it.
If you have to lower FSB to 195MHz, not a big loss.

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Old January 20th 04, 10:23 PM
Etno
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"Lopaka" wrote in message
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How is Kingston ValueRam? Should I be good with that do you think?


Although I use it, CL3 ram is NOT recommended by ASUS. I have
a KVR400X64C3/512 Value Ram but I have not OC'd yet. (heat issues).


Thanks. I looked on Asus's website, but couldn't the memory
recommendations. If CL3 isn't recommended, do you know what CL is (for
overclocking the fsb)?

Thanks again!


 




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