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Old July 10th 03, 10:47 PM
Madra Rua
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I have been trying to capture some VHS tapes at 720x480 using HuffyUV and am
getting large numbers of frame drops - e.g. about 60 one drops and the same
number of two drops in 10,000 frames. It really screws the sync.

I defraggged my partition and have set my WD Caviar HDs to Use DMA if avail.
It made no difference, even though I did not touch the box while capturing.
The above efforts were with VVCR and VDub. I did try the little AMCap with
the WMDs but it crashes when I specify the capture file :-(

The CPU is running at 1.69 GHz - about x17. Now how about overclocking?

I am a newby to this game and looked at the BIOS settings for help.

The CPU Ext Freq is set at 100 MHz.
The CPU Freq multiple Setting is [Menu or Auto] = can see no way to
specify anything.
CPU Freq Multiple has a max setting of [9.0x/17.0x]

The present FSB speed is at 2x99 = 198 MHz.

Is the the chip locked or is only way to raise the FSB?

My ram chips are 2 of: KINGSTON KVR333X64C25/256 256MB PC2700 333MHZ CL2.5
DDR DIMM

Advice much appreciated.

TIA

Rua



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Old July 10th 03, 10:58 PM
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But how are you capturing....? Are you using a dedicated capture card with
hardware encoding or a video in from a std AGP card and then sound in through
your soundcard...? Are you also trying to compress on the fly..?

All the above can have a great influence on your success, or not, in capturing
without dropping frames or sync being an issue between sound and video.

Being VHS Would that be Svhs or composite out...? Either way why capture at such
an high resolution, again a potential problem for you.



Regards

Morgan

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Old July 10th 03, 11:14 PM
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:47:35 GMT, "Madra Rua" wrote:

The CPU is running at 1.69 GHz - about x17. Now how about overclocking?


Your CPU is intended to run at 133MHz FSB, so the initial setting should
be 13*133=1729MHz.

If you still need more power and have a Thoroughbred B chip it will be
very overclockable; mine is currently at 2266MHz ) on an old
A7V133.

Regards,
Tom
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Old July 10th 03, 11:43 PM
Madra Rua
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Just found an interesting article on o'clocking:

http://www4.tomshardware.com/howto/20011112/index.html

All that glue on a Palomino? My CPU is a Thoroughbred, I believe.
What is necessary here?

TIA

Rua

"Madra Rua" wrote in message
thlink.net...
I have been trying to capture some VHS tapes at 720x480 using HuffyUV and

am
getting large numbers of frame drops - e.g. about 60 one drops and the

same
number of two drops in 10,000 frames. It really screws the sync.

I defraggged my partition and have set my WD Caviar HDs to Use DMA if

avail.
It made no difference, even though I did not touch the box while

capturing.
The above efforts were with VVCR and VDub. I did try the little AMCap

with
the WMDs but it crashes when I specify the capture file :-(

The CPU is running at 1.69 GHz - about x17. Now how about overclocking?

I am a newby to this game and looked at the BIOS settings for help.

The CPU Ext Freq is set at 100 MHz.
The CPU Freq multiple Setting is [Menu or Auto] = can see no way to
specify anything.
CPU Freq Multiple has a max setting of [9.0x/17.0x]

The present FSB speed is at 2x99 = 198 MHz.

Is the the chip locked or is only way to raise the FSB?

My ram chips are 2 of: KINGSTON KVR333X64C25/256 256MB PC2700 333MHZ

CL2.5
DDR DIMM

Advice much appreciated.

TIA

Rua






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Old July 11th 03, 04:49 AM
Dan G
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Everything you desire is he
http://www.amdforums.com/


"Madra Rua" wrote in message
thlink.net...
I have been trying to capture some VHS tapes at 720x480 using HuffyUV and

am
getting large numbers of frame drops - e.g. about 60 one drops and the

same
number of two drops in 10,000 frames. It really screws the sync.

I defraggged my partition and have set my WD Caviar HDs to Use DMA if

avail.
It made no difference, even though I did not touch the box while

capturing.
The above efforts were with VVCR and VDub. I did try the little AMCap

with
the WMDs but it crashes when I specify the capture file :-(

The CPU is running at 1.69 GHz - about x17. Now how about overclocking?

I am a newby to this game and looked at the BIOS settings for help.

The CPU Ext Freq is set at 100 MHz.
The CPU Freq multiple Setting is [Menu or Auto] = can see no way to
specify anything.
CPU Freq Multiple has a max setting of [9.0x/17.0x]

The present FSB speed is at 2x99 = 198 MHz.

Is the the chip locked or is only way to raise the FSB?

My ram chips are 2 of: KINGSTON KVR333X64C25/256 256MB PC2700 333MHZ

CL2.5
DDR DIMM

Advice much appreciated.

TIA

Rua





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Old July 11th 03, 06:14 AM
Madra Rua
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Thanks Morgan for your comments.

"Morgan" wrote in message
...
But how are you capturing....? Are you using a dedicated capture card with
hardware encoding or a video in from a std AGP card and then sound in

through
your soundcard...? Are you also trying to compress on the fly..?


I use the Hauppauge WinTV card. I do have the Huffyuv set to compress and
the overall compression was about 2.6 in a 5 min test. This is probably a
factor in the problem but without it the size of the file (2hr 20 min video)
most likely would be unmanageable. I'm aiming to do about 60% of the video
on the first run and then the other part. That would give me for first part
about 52 GB.

All the above can have a great influence on your success, or not, in

capturing
without dropping frames or sync being an issue between sound and video.


If I use PicVideo MJPeg at quality 17, I don't get drops. First, I'll have a
good try at getting the best video possible, with HuffyUV. If I fail with
the overclocking, I'll drop back to MJPeg and inch the quality up to get the
best I can.

Being VHS Would that be Svhs or composite out...? Either way why capture

at such
an high resolution, again a potential problem for you.


Composite. I want to capture the best I can and then I will be satisfied to
accept the usual degradation in the conversion to mpeg2.

Many thanks again.

Rua


Regards

Morgan

How I fixed my noisy IBM drive
www.flyinglizard.freeserve.co.uk
3DMark 2001 with Ti 4200 = 15214
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6420632





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Old July 11th 03, 10:43 AM
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"Madra Rua" wrote in message
thlink.net...
I have been trying to capture some VHS tapes at 720x480 using HuffyUV and

am
getting large numbers of frame drops - e.g. about 60 one drops and the

same
number of two drops in 10,000 frames. It really screws the sync.

I defraggged my partition and have set my WD Caviar HDs to Use DMA if

avail.
It made no difference, even though I did not touch the box while

capturing.
The above efforts were with VVCR and VDub. I did try the little AMCap

with
the WMDs but it crashes when I specify the capture file :-(

The CPU is running at 1.69 GHz - about x17. Now how about overclocking?

I am a newby to this game and looked at the BIOS settings for help.

The CPU Ext Freq is set at 100 MHz.
The CPU Freq multiple Setting is [Menu or Auto] = can see no way to
specify anything.
CPU Freq Multiple has a max setting of [9.0x/17.0x]

The present FSB speed is at 2x99 = 198 MHz.

Is the the chip locked or is only way to raise the FSB?

My ram chips are 2 of: KINGSTON KVR333X64C25/256 256MB PC2700 333MHZ

CL2.5
DDR DIMM

Advice much appreciated.

TIA

Rua


As other post says.
set the settings to menu/user defined.
Im running my 2100+ at 210x11.5 with 1.725Vcore.
Asus A7N8X non deluxe Rev 2.0
The other bopard I had Asus A7N8X Non Dl....Ran this cpu at 180x12.5.
your default should be 133x11.5 at 1.60Vcore
mess with it....you have the ram for 166 FSB (333 DDR)
try 11.5x166 at stock Vcore and see if it will run stable.
Oh and keep ram/cpu running in synch (ram at 100% of fsb speed) This may
help with id probs too.
if cpu is at 100 and ram at 166 outa sync can actually slow the system down
or cause performance hits.
Hope this helps some.
OZoNE




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Old July 11th 03, 01:51 PM
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Thanks Morgan for your comments.

No problem. However if you had answered some of the questions that I asked you
might have found that the issue could have more to do with your method of
capturing rather than the need to overclock your system.

I have captured fine with a P3 1GHZ and zero frames dropped, so although well
configured hardware is very important to capturing it does not need the fastest
CPU to do it right.

--
Regards

Morgan

How I fixed my noisy IBM drive
www.flyinglizard.freeserve.co.uk
3DMark 2001 with Ti 4200 = 15214
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6420632


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Old July 11th 03, 05:54 PM
Madra Rua
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"Tom Joyce" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:47:35 GMT, "Madra Rua" wrote:

The CPU is running at 1.69 GHz - about x17. Now how about overclocking?


Your CPU is intended to run at 133MHz FSB, so the initial setting should
be 13*133=1729MHz.

If you still need more power and have a Thoroughbred B chip it will be
very overclockable; mine is currently at 2266MHz ) on an old
A7V133.

Regards,
Tom


Thank you Tom.

Looking through the motherboard manual, I don't see anywhere to set the FSB.
The Advanced Chipset Features of the BIOS have, for the first item, the CPU
external frequency. It is now at 100 MHz. It also says that the FSB is
double this. I checked to see what choices are available for the CPU
external frequency and they we 100, 133, 166 and 200. If I choose 133,
that means the FSB would be 266 MHz, not what I want.

So where to set the FSB?

According to Aida32, the chip is a Thoroughbred B.

TIA

Rua




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Old July 11th 03, 06:38 PM
Madra Rua
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"Morgan" wrote in message
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Thanks Morgan for your comments.


No problem. However if you had answered some of the questions that I asked

you
might have found that the issue could have more to do with your method of
capturing rather than the need to overclock your system.


Ouch! :-)

I thought I provided all the answers. The Hauppauge WinTV is a TV card with
video and audio out ports. I feed the audio through the sound card but that
has nothing to do with my problem. I don't use an AGP card for this. What
other info do you need?

I have captured fine with a P3 1GHZ and zero frames dropped, so although

well
configured hardware is very important to capturing it does not need the

fastest
CPU to do it right.


I also have captured with much slower equipment without drops but not at
720x480 with HuffyUV and the Compress box checked. Have you used these
settings without drops on that slower equipment?

TIA

Rua

Regards

Morgan

How I fixed my noisy IBM drive
www.flyinglizard.freeserve.co.uk
3DMark 2001 with Ti 4200 = 15214
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6420632





 




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