total newb,looking for a motherboard

hi,im geting ready to put together my first pc,but im kind of stuck on
the motherboard.can anyone recommend a good pick?im looking for
something with integrated usb2,firewire,and audio.also i want to put
in a intel p4 3+ghz 800mhz fbs with hyper threading and 4 184pin ddr
dimm slots which i want to add in 4 512mb ddr sdram strips into.

thanks for any help

On 9 Apr 2004 01:57:18 -0700, (sam unwise)
wrote:

hi,im geting ready to put together my first pc,but im kind of stuck on
the motherboard.can anyone recommend a good pick?im looking for
something with integrated usb2,firewire,and audio.also i want to put
in a intel p4 3+ghz 800mhz fbs with hyper threading and 4 184pin ddr
dimm slots which i want to add in 4 512mb ddr sdram strips into.

thanks for any help

Asus P4P800 deluxe.
(mind you, if you do linux&raid, seems(?) no raid drivers available)

I would urge you to brake at 1Gig ram though. P4 performance drops
with more than 2 slots populated (on Intel 865, 875, but I doubt SiS
and VIA are better). I also think it's dubious value to have more than
1GB ram on a 32-bit desktop system.
In my own experience, my workapp crashes out at 1.3-1.7 GB. The reason
is of course that the 32-bit virtual memory map is fragmented.
And by that time, I've not been really pained by swapping. My problem
is not swapping, but the limitations of 32-bit technology.

If your ram requirements comes from multitasking, it's of course a
different story.
But start with just two 512 modules. Then try to get a feel for how
much ram you use, and how much swapping bothers you, before going 2
GB. In my own case, my app computes for anything like 10 minutes to
hours, but it's mostly 100% cpu. Swapping accounts for only a small
part of the time.

What we heavy memory users really need, is not 2GB unregistered ram on
a 32-bit platform..
What we really need is a 64-bit application and a 64-bit system (and
maybe even registered ECC ram).

ancra

sam unwise wrote:
hi,im geting ready to put together my first pc,but im kind of stuck on
the motherboard.can anyone recommend a good pick?im looking for
something with integrated usb2,firewire,and audio.also i want to put
in a intel p4 3+ghz 800mhz fbs with hyper threading and 4 184pin ddr
dimm slots which i want to add in 4 512mb ddr sdram strips into.

thanks for any help

http://www.newegg.com/app/manufactor...log=280&DEPA=1
is a newegg page where you can fill in specs. When you do so you get 79
choices. You can then choose IEEE1394 as a keyword and get it down to
22 or so choices. And go from there. This option selection menu is
worthwhile even if you don't shop at newegg.

dick
-- but newegg is a very good place to shop and I recommend it highly as
do many others in this group.

Here is the top-end Intel Motherboard for your configuration:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...121-206&depa=1

It is not as fast as the recommended ASUS Motherboard and would not be
the choice if you want to over clock, but it is a good choice. This
is what I am currently using.

Here is good memory for it if you are not looking to over clock.

http://www.crucial.com/store/MPartsp...SPN=CT6464Z40B



(sam unwise) wrote in message . com...
hi,im geting ready to put together my first pc,but im kind of stuck on
the motherboard.can anyone recommend a good pick?im looking for
something with integrated usb2,firewire,and audio.also i want to put
in a intel p4 3+ghz 800mhz fbs with hyper threading and 4 184pin ddr
dimm slots which i want to add in 4 512mb ddr sdram strips into.

thanks for any help

thank you very much,i had no idea of this,i just figured 2gigs would
be more then enough for quite awhile.i will take your advice to
heart,thank you

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On 9 Apr 2004 01:57:18 -0700, (sam unwise)
wrote:

hi,im geting ready to put together my first pc,but im kind of stuck on
the motherboard.can anyone recommend a good pick?im looking for
something with integrated usb2,firewire,and audio.also i want to put
in a intel p4 3+ghz 800mhz fbs with hyper threading and 4 184pin ddr
dimm slots which i want to add in 4 512mb ddr sdram strips into.

thanks for any help

Asus P4P800 deluxe.
(mind you, if you do linux&raid, seems(?) no raid drivers available)

I would urge you to brake at 1Gig ram though. P4 performance drops
with more than 2 slots populated (on Intel 865, 875, but I doubt SiS
and VIA are better). I also think it's dubious value to have more than
1GB ram on a 32-bit desktop system.
In my own experience, my workapp crashes out at 1.3-1.7 GB. The reason
is of course that the 32-bit virtual memory map is fragmented.
And by that time, I've not been really pained by swapping. My problem
is not swapping, but the limitations of 32-bit technology.

If your ram requirements comes from multitasking, it's of course a
different story.
But start with just two 512 modules. Then try to get a feel for how
much ram you use, and how much swapping bothers you, before going 2
GB. In my own case, my app computes for anything like 10 minutes to
hours, but it's mostly 100% cpu. Swapping accounts for only a small
part of the time.

What we heavy memory users really need, is not 2GB unregistered ram on
a 32-bit platform..
What we really need is a 64-bit application and a 64-bit system (and
maybe even registered ECC ram).

ancra

Intel D865PERL has all your asking for, USB 2, onboard LAN, 5.1 sound,
dual memory banks, SATA hard drives. See it at Intel's site. Get a P4
at 3 Ghz with HT for it. Note that over 3Ghz requires a better PC
case, needs more cooling. (Search on "Super Alien-x PC case" for an
awesome case).
On 9 Apr 2004 01:57:18 -0700, (sam unwise)
wrote:

hi,im geting ready to put together my first pc,but im kind of stuck on
the motherboard.can anyone recommend a good pick?im looking for
something with integrated usb2,firewire,and audio.also i want to put
in a intel p4 3+ghz 800mhz fbs with hyper threading and 4 184pin ddr
dimm slots which i want to add in 4 512mb ddr sdram strips into.

thanks for any help

Best bet: Asus P4C800E- Deluxe with those specs.

--
DaveW



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hi,im geting ready to put together my first pc,but im kind of stuck on
the motherboard.can anyone recommend a good pick?im looking for
something with integrated usb2,firewire,and audio.also i want to put
in a intel p4 3+ghz 800mhz fbs with hyper threading and 4 184pin ddr
dimm slots which i want to add in 4 512mb ddr sdram strips into.

thanks for any help

Asus P4P800 Deluxe would be a good motherboard. It is probably a good
choice. Abit also has some nice motherboards. After that also Intel
Motherboards are good. Look for the Intel 865 series of chipsets.
The 875 series of chipsets which are only slightly faster, but cost
quite a bit more.



On 9 Apr 2004 01:57:18 -0700, (sam unwise)
wrote:

hi,im geting ready to put together my first pc,but im kind of stuck on
the motherboard.can anyone recommend a good pick?im looking for
something with integrated usb2,firewire,and audio.also i want to put
in a intel p4 3+ghz 800mhz fbs with hyper threading and 4 184pin ddr
dimm slots which i want to add in 4 512mb ddr sdram strips into.

thanks for any help