Correct angle for keyboard

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Rod Speed wrote:

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You truly are a *stupid* ****wit aren't you??

You mean it's taken you *THIS* long to work it out? Blimey.

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John Doe wrote:
Osiris wrote:

On 26 Jul 2006 19:14:38 -0700, wrote:

correct mouse is also important. I prefer a relatively flat
mouse. Some mice are so rounded in the middle that they're just
uncomfortable for me to use.

Maybe because your wrist is bent up too much ? there is a
relation, maybe, with the keyboard slope...

Others may prefer that type. The thing is there's no
such thing as one size fits all.

Nope: we are privileged to have some choice.

Keyboard slope, prosthetics, and all that stuff might help, but it
won't stop repetitive strain injury (RSI).

The only RSI killer is speech-recognition.

Well, Opera singers have a tendancy to lose thier voice if not careful.
I Suppose there isn't any part that's really safe from repetivive
strain.


Good luck.

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i would think you are an expert on RSI with all of the jerking off you do!

The only RSI killer is speech-recognition.

Well, Opera singers have a tendancy to lose thier voice if not careful.
I Suppose there isn't any part that's really safe from repetivive
strain.

It's called: expiration date.

" wrote:


John Doe wrote:

Keyboard slope, prosthetics, and all that stuff might help, but
it won't stop repetitive strain injury (RSI).

The only RSI killer is speech-recognition.

Well, Opera singers have a tendancy to lose thier voice if not
careful. I Suppose there isn't any part that's really safe from
repetivive strain.

I haven't gotten hoarse yet.

Speech recognition is a generation ahead of using a keyboard for
activating scripts/macros too. You can't have enough keys (or
keystroke combinations) on a keyboard to equal the number of
recognizable two or three syllables sounds, and keystrokes aren't
anywhere near as memorable (there's no comparison). Dictation and
speech activated automation are distinct. Dictation is difficult,
but using speech for macro activation is a very limited vocabulary
and much easier no matter how many macros you would like to have.

For me, currently NaturallySpeaking is the only viable SR program.
One way to train your voice might be to buy a digital recorder for
taking notes, then you can play them back and rerecord them until
they sound right. I did that for a couple of years before finally
getting SR to work (besides, digital recorders are cool).

Good luck.

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:35:04 GMT, John Doe
wrote:

snip, snip

Speech recognition is a generation ahead of using a keyboard for
activating scripts/macros too.

snip

I did that for a couple of years before finally
getting SR to work (besides, digital recorders are cool).



Err, I'd hardly call training for 2 years, even remotely
close to being a generation ahead of using a keyboard to get
the job done.

Seems quite the opposite, that SR is still far far behind
using a keyboard.

seems, the sum of all posts is either *THE* solution or zero.

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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:35:04 GMT, John Doe
jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote:

snip, snip

Speech recognition is a generation ahead of using a keyboard for
activating scripts/macros too.

snip

I did that for a couple of years before finally
getting SR to work (besides, digital recorders are cool).



Err, I'd hardly call training for 2 years, even remotely
close to being a generation ahead of using a keyboard to get
the job done.

I got other things done with the digital recorders at the same time.
They are far superior to tape recorders for taking notes.

Again. If you are heavy into Windows automation like I am, there is
no comparison between speech recognition and a keyboard for
launching shortcuts/scripts/whenever.

Seems quite the opposite, that SR is still far far behind
using a keyboard.

It can be hell if you can't do it.

Knowing what I know now, I would have been using speech recognition
for Windows automation/macroing even before being able to dictate.










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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "H. Seldon"
saying something like:

Rod Speed wrote:

Snipped bull****

You truly are a *stupid* ****wit aren't you??

plonk

He has a habit of spouting total ******** in other places.
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Rod Speed wrote:
Archie wrote:

Is there a generally-accepted best angle for the slope of a regular keyboard?

Nope.

One web page says this:

------------------ BEGIN QUOTE -----------------
"angle of the keyboard relative to the angle of the wrist. Most
keyboards slope upwards from front to back, and this means that
users bend their hands upwards when they are typing on the keyboard.

Nope, the hands just move over the keyboard with the arms doing that instead.

This posture is called wrist extension, and we
know that it is a source of injury risk for the wrist.

No we dont. In spades when the arms are what moves.

Once the hand is extended beyond about a 15° upward angle,

Pity that doesnt happen.

there is a very significant increase in the compression
on the median nerve and other structures inside the wrist.

Wrong again.

So it is extremely important to type with the hands as flat as possible.

Wrong again.

From http://ergo.human.cornell.edu/AHTutorials/ckd.htm
------------------ END QUOTE --------------------

Which I interpret as being zero to 15 degrees.

Nope, they are clearly saying that last that zero is best. They are wrong.

But my Compaq keyboard permits either:

(1) flat or maybe 5 degrees
(2) about 30 to 35 degrees.

I doubt you type enough to matter.



Do you have any references to back up your disagreements? I can't
find anything and I tend to trust Cornell Univ. on this since I can
correlate most of what you disagreed with to fact by personal
experience. It's a fact that typing with the hands bent in a upward
position can exacerbate the condition especially in people predisposed
for it. Zero degrees may not be the optimum, but until the release of
the latest MS ergo key board it was the best that could be achieved with
a keyboard on a flat surface. At $dayjob I have seen may people typing
with their hands past a 15 degree angle so it seems you may have limited
experience with unexperienced typists and this comes down to them not
knowing better and/or not knowing how to adjust the keyboard tray which
allows for a keyboard to be tilted down towards the top end rather than
up. It occurs that if some of your answers are to have any credibility
you should provide some insight into your reply beyond "nope" or "wrong."



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