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PATA -> Serial ATA convertors - do they always work ?
I have some regular IDE to Serial ATA adapters that came with an Abit NF7-S
motherboard. I tried using one on an Asus K8V SE Deluxe with a Western Digital 250 GB (WD2500BB) hard drive. I could not get the drive recognized by the BIOS. Are these convertors sometimes known to be flaky, or is it possuible that the Serial ATA ports on my new mobo are hosed ? |
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Did you install the sata drivers???
-- Mark MCSA, CNA, A+, Net+, iNet+, Server+ "ZigZag Master" wrote in message ... I have some regular IDE to Serial ATA adapters that came with an Abit NF7-S motherboard. I tried using one on an Asus K8V SE Deluxe with a Western Digital 250 GB (WD2500BB) hard drive. I could not get the drive recognized by the BIOS. Are these convertors sometimes known to be flaky, or is it possuible that the Serial ATA ports on my new mobo are hosed ? |
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The BIOS doesnt even see the drives
"Mark" wrote in message ... Did you install the sata drivers??? -- Mark MCSA, CNA, A+, Net+, iNet+, Server+ "ZigZag Master" wrote in message ... I have some regular IDE to Serial ATA adapters that came with an Abit NF7-S motherboard. I tried using one on an Asus K8V SE Deluxe with a Western Digital 250 GB (WD2500BB) hard drive. I could not get the drive recognized by the BIOS. Are these convertors sometimes known to be flaky, or is it possuible that the Serial ATA ports on my new mobo are hosed ? |
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Thats what I am saying.....you will need to install the sata drivers...they
should have come on your motherboard CD. -- Mark MCSA, CNA, A+, Net+, iNet+, Server+ "ZigZag Master" wrote in message ... The BIOS doesnt even see the drives "Mark" wrote in message ... Did you install the sata drivers??? -- Mark MCSA, CNA, A+, Net+, iNet+, Server+ "ZigZag Master" wrote in message ... I have some regular IDE to Serial ATA adapters that came with an Abit NF7-S motherboard. I tried using one on an Asus K8V SE Deluxe with a Western Digital 250 GB (WD2500BB) hard drive. I could not get the drive recognized by the BIOS. Are these convertors sometimes known to be flaky, or is it possuible that the Serial ATA ports on my new mobo are hosed ? |
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Thats what I am saying.....you will need to install the sata drivers...they should have come on your motherboard CD. I don't think yer hearing me man. The BIOS does not see the drive. There is not even an operating system on my machine yet. |
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"Mark"
wrote in : Thats what I am saying.....you will need to install the sata drivers...they should have come on your motherboard CD. The BIOS doesnt even see the drives "Mark" wrote in message ... Did you install the sata drivers??? -- Mark MCSA, CNA, A+, Net+, iNet+, Server+ "ZigZag Master" wrote in message ... I have some regular IDE to Serial ATA adapters that came with an Abit NF7-S motherboard. I tried using one on an Asus K8V SE Deluxe with a Western Digital 250 GB (WD2500BB) hard drive. I could not get the drive recognized by the BIOS. Are these convertors sometimes known to be flaky, or is it possuible that the Serial ATA ports on my new mobo are hosed ? Drivers are NOT used until you load an operating system. Obvious. The BIOS should recognize the drive it before any OS gets loaded to then load any drivers specific to a device. On the NF7-S, there is actually a second BIOS just for the SATA support (although it is embedded within the same flash update for the system BIOS). You first see the BIOS load and the screen showing CPU and memory which is followed by a screen clear and a load of the SATA BIOS. If the system BIOS has the SATA device disabled then the SATA BIOS won't load and you get no support of the SATA ports. If the system BIOS has the SATA port(s) enabled then you should see the SATA BIOS get loaded later (just like you see SCSI BIOS get loaded later). The SATA BIOS will then scan for drives on those ports. If the SATA BIOS loads but it doesn't find any drives then nothing later is going to see the drives, either, even if you load drives in a much later load of the OS. That's how it is on the NF7-S. I don't know about the Asus and whether it incorporates the SATA support directly within the system BIOS or if it loads another but separate BIOS for separate SATA controller chips. If the SATA BIOS loads but it doesn't find the drives then you have a hardware problem at that point that loading drivers later won't fix. Can you take off the PATA-2-SATA converter and attach the IDE drive to an mobo IDE port to ensure the drive itself is okay? Is the SATA BIOS a separate BIOS from the system BIOS (i.e., it loads later)? If so, check that the system BIOS has the SATA controller enabled. Presumably you don't have anything else connected to the SATA ports (and which works); else, you would know the SATA port and SATA BIOS already work okay. -- __________________________________________________ *** Post replies to newsgroup. Share with others. (E-mail: domain = ".com", add "=NEWS=" to Subject) __________________________________________________ |
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ZigZag Master wrote:
Thats what I am saying.....you will need to install the sata drivers...they should have come on your motherboard CD. I don't think yer hearing me man. The BIOS does not see the drive. There is not even an operating system on my machine yet. some of them are duff, make sure the drive is configured as master, try the hdrive on normal pata |
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In article , "ZigZag Master"
wrote: I have some regular IDE to Serial ATA adapters that came with an Abit NF7-S motherboard. I tried using one on an Asus K8V SE Deluxe with a Western Digital 250 GB (WD2500BB) hard drive. I could not get the drive recognized by the BIOS. Are these convertors sometimes known to be flaky, or is it possuible that the Serial ATA ports on my new mobo are hosed ? Comments on Serillel adapter: http://secure.newegg.com/app/Custrat...tem=13-999-402 Comments on Rockethead adapter: http://secure.newegg.com/app/Custrat...tem=22-999-111 Yes, they can be flaky. Some of the original designs didn't give error free transmission. There are some combos of chipset and adapter known not to work. And SATA ports on motherboards do arrive DOA, as I read of someones efforts to get an ICH5R SATA to work, only to find one port was dead. So, that happens too. You can try the search terms "serillel" or "rockethead" over on abxzone. There is one thread just on converters, although it is a little weak on good info: http://www.abxzone.com/forums/search.php (search engine) http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50014 With the WDC, it could be a jumpering problem. I would try the single master setting, if you haven't already. HTH, Paul |
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"ZigZag Master" wrote in message ... Thats what I am saying.....you will need to install the sata drivers...they should have come on your motherboard CD. I don't think yer hearing me man. The BIOS does not see the drive. There is not even an operating system on my machine yet. I dont think your listening, He can hear you, can you hear him! |
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Drivers are NOT used until you load an operating system. Obvious. The
BIOS should recognize the drive it before any OS gets loaded to then load any drivers specific to a device. On the NF7-S, there is actually a second BIOS just for the SATA support (although it is embedded within the same flash update for the system BIOS). You first see the BIOS load and the screen showing CPU and memory which is followed by a screen clear and a load of the SATA BIOS. If the system BIOS has the SATA device disabled then the SATA BIOS won't load and you get no support of the SATA ports. If the system BIOS has the SATA port(s) enabled then you should see the SATA BIOS get loaded later (just like you see SCSI BIOS get loaded later). The SATA BIOS will then scan for drives on those ports. If the SATA BIOS loads but it doesn't find any drives then nothing later is going to see the drives, either, even if you load drives in a much later load of the OS. That's how it is on the NF7-S. I don't know about the Asus and whether it incorporates the SATA support directly within the system BIOS or if it loads another but separate BIOS for separate SATA controller chips. If the SATA BIOS loads but it doesn't find the drives then you have a hardware problem at that point that loading drivers later won't fix. Can you take off the PATA-2-SATA converter and attach the IDE drive to an mobo IDE port to ensure the drive itself is okay? Is the SATA BIOS a separate BIOS from the system BIOS (i.e., it loads later)? If so, check that the system BIOS has the SATA controller enabled. Presumably you don't have anything else connected to the SATA ports (and which works); else, you would know the SATA port and SATA BIOS already work okay. yea but this isnt just the "BIOS" tho is it.. |
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