A7N8X Deluxe problem - graphics card not working properly?

"markjen" wrote in message
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I assume you set the BIOS to AGP Graphics rather than PCI Graphics?

Yep.

Peter

"Barry Walsh" wrote in message
...
Peter Weir wrote:
Hi all,

I've just built my new PC using an A7N8X Deluxe board (specs below),
carrying over my ATI 8500DV card from my old machine. Having previously
used
Gigabyte boards, I'm very hopeful that a move to Asus will get me a
stable
machine for a change! :-)

The first thing that was more than a bit strange was that, for some
reason,
the graphics card, sound card and another card were not recognised by
Windows (although, obviously, it could recognise the ATI card enough to
send
a signal to the monitor!); however, manually installing the drivers
seems to
have solved that (mostly).

The problem, though, is that the graphics performance seems really quite
creaky - my ATI card certainly had a good deal more punch in my old
system.
I haven't yet run any 3DMark benchmark yet, but I don't have any numbers
to
compare with.

I've yet to try any 3D apps with the new system, but 2D performance
seems to
be particularly below what I had befo even scrolling web pages can be
a
bit of a pain.

I've got the latest ATI drivers and the latest nForce2 chipset drivers
installed.

I can see a few settings in the BIOS (1006) that could be useful; AGP 8X
and
fast-writes are enabled, graphics aperture size is set to 64MB (the
amount
of memory on the 8500DV), but I've not tried changing anything else (AGP
Frequency, Video RAM Cacheable?).

Anyone any ideas?

New system:

A7N8X Deluxe rev 2.0
Athlon 3000+
ATI AIW 8500DV
2x512MB PC2700 (not dual channel)
Creative Audigy player card

(Old system:

Gigabyte 7VRXP
Athlon 2000+
Graphics, memory, audio as above.)

Very many thanks in advance,

Peter


Your card doesn't support 8x AGP so don't worry about that. Your AGP
aperture isn't meant to match your cards memory. It should be set to
whatever closest to twice the cards ram plus 12 megs, so set it to 128.

Ah - this I've never been too sure about. I'll give it a try to see if it
makes a difference!

You may want to check your AGP acceleration status by start - run -
dxdiag.exe and you'll see it in the display tab.

AGP Texture acceleration is enabled.

THe ATi smartgart tool
is know to have issues setting the AGP acceleration properly.

Interesting one: from my experience with ATI cards, I initially turned off
the AGP fast-writes; Smartgart seems to be happy that my card can run at AGP
x4. I've just tried enabling fast-writes in the BIOS, but I expect that
smartgart will prevent this from making any difference...

Peter

"Peter Weir" wrote in message
.. .
Hi all,

I've just built my new PC using an A7N8X Deluxe board (specs below),
carrying over my ATI 8500DV card from my old machine. Having previously
used
Gigabyte boards, I'm very hopeful that a move to Asus will get me a stable
machine for a change! :-)

The first thing that was more than a bit strange was that, for some
reason,
the graphics card, sound card and another card were not recognised by
Windows (although, obviously, it could recognise the ATI card enough to
send
a signal to the monitor!); however, manually installing the drivers seems
to
have solved that (mostly).

The problem, though, is that the graphics performance seems really quite
creaky - my ATI card certainly had a good deal more punch in my old
system.
I haven't yet run any 3DMark benchmark yet, but I don't have any numbers
to
compare with.

I've yet to try any 3D apps with the new system, but 2D performance seems
to
be particularly below what I had befo even scrolling web pages can be a
bit of a pain.

I've got the latest ATI drivers and the latest nForce2 chipset drivers
installed.

I can see a few settings in the BIOS (1006) that could be useful; AGP 8X
and
fast-writes are enabled, graphics aperture size is set to 64MB (the amount
of memory on the 8500DV), but I've not tried changing anything else (AGP
Frequency, Video RAM Cacheable?).

Anyone any ideas?

New system:

A7N8X Deluxe rev 2.0
Athlon 3000+
ATI AIW 8500DV
2x512MB PC2700 (not dual channel)

Should be dual channel since it is automatically set by the BIOS.


Creative Audigy player card

(Old system:

Gigabyte 7VRXP
Athlon 2000+
Graphics, memory, audio as above.)


Possibly a stupid question: Did you install the drivers that came with your
motherboard?


--
callsignviper


The truth is out there. You just have to look in the right places and ask
the right questions.

"callsignviper" wrote in
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"Peter Weir" wrote in message
.. .

Anyone any ideas?

New system:

A7N8X Deluxe rev 2.0
Athlon 3000+
ATI AIW 8500DV
2x512MB PC2700 (not dual channel)

Should be dual channel since it is automatically set by the
BIOS.


That depends on whether or not one of the DIMMs is in the middle
slot. If it is, then you will only get single channel. If I read
the manual correctly, dual channel requires one DIMM in each of the
two outer slots. (Would that be considered 1 and 3?)

"Peter Weir" wrote in message
.. .
|
| "Barry Walsh" wrote in message
| ...

| Your card doesn't support 8x AGP so don't worry about that. Your
AGP
| aperture isn't meant to match your cards memory. It should be set
to
| whatever closest to twice the cards ram plus 12 megs, so set it to
128.
|
| Ah - this I've never been too sure about. I'll give it a try to see
if it
| makes a difference!
|
| You may want to check your AGP acceleration status by start -
run -
| dxdiag.exe and you'll see it in the display tab.
|
| AGP Texture acceleration is enabled.
|
| THe ATi smartgart tool
| is know to have issues setting the AGP acceleration properly.
|
| Interesting one: from my experience with ATI cards, I initially
turned off
| the AGP fast-writes; Smartgart seems to be happy that my card can
run at AGP
| x4. I've just tried enabling fast-writes in the BIOS, but I expect
that
| smartgart will prevent this from making any difference...
|
| Peter
|

I have BIOS setup for fastwrites enabled and 8x and 64M AGP aperture,
but with my 8500 ATI card (64meg), smartgart shows FW disabled and 4x
mode. I did an in place upgrade of win2k when I installed my
a7n8x-dlx mobo (reinstall over current win2k install once mobo was
replaced). I have some faint memory of slower than normal video
response but can only suggest that I uninstalled and reinstalled the
ATI Catalyst drivers (am using ver 3.6) and installed nforce drivers
from asus (later upgrading to the 3.13 ver from nvidia) and my vid
card is working fine speed wise.

Can you run 3dmark2k1se and give us an update on the results. My
system resulted in about 103000 on the test (CPU: XP @ 2088 Mhz,
333Mhz Mem/FSB).

--
Best regards,
Kyle

"Ed" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:33:11 -0000, Scarletdown
wrote:

"callsignviper" wrote in
news:AoBsb.133163$mZ5.913352@attbi_s54:


"Peter Weir" wrote in message
.. .

Anyone any ideas?

New system:

A7N8X Deluxe rev 2.0
Athlon 3000+
ATI AIW 8500DV
2x512MB PC2700 (not dual channel)

Should be dual channel since it is automatically set by the
BIOS.


That depends on whether or not one of the DIMMs is in the middle
slot. If it is, then you will only get single channel. If I read
the manual correctly, dual channel requires one DIMM in each of the
two outer slots. (Would that be considered 1 and 3?)

Leave the center slot empty (with 2 sticks) and she should boot up in
Dual mode.

Well, from what I had read on this board, the A7N8X can be quite picky over
the memory used. My two sticks of 512MB are of different makes, so I thought
I'd start with them only in slots 1 & 2. I may well try it using slots 1 &
3, but I haven't yet.

Peter

"callsignviper" wrote in message
news:AoBsb.133163$mZ5.913352@attbi_s54...

"Peter Weir" wrote in message
.. .
Hi all,

I've just built my new PC using an A7N8X Deluxe board (specs below),
carrying over my ATI 8500DV card from my old machine. Having previously
used
Gigabyte boards, I'm very hopeful that a move to Asus will get me a
stable
machine for a change! :-)

The first thing that was more than a bit strange was that, for some
reason,
the graphics card, sound card and another card were not recognised by
Windows (although, obviously, it could recognise the ATI card enough to
send
a signal to the monitor!); however, manually installing the drivers
seems
to
have solved that (mostly).

The problem, though, is that the graphics performance seems really quite
creaky - my ATI card certainly had a good deal more punch in my old
system.
I haven't yet run any 3DMark benchmark yet, but I don't have any numbers
to
compare with.

I've yet to try any 3D apps with the new system, but 2D performance
seems
to
be particularly below what I had befo even scrolling web pages can be
a
bit of a pain.

I've got the latest ATI drivers and the latest nForce2 chipset drivers
installed.

I can see a few settings in the BIOS (1006) that could be useful; AGP 8X
and
fast-writes are enabled, graphics aperture size is set to 64MB (the
amount
of memory on the 8500DV), but I've not tried changing anything else (AGP
Frequency, Video RAM Cacheable?).

Anyone any ideas?

New system:

A7N8X Deluxe rev 2.0
Athlon 3000+
ATI AIW 8500DV
2x512MB PC2700 (not dual channel)

Should be dual channel since it is automatically set by the BIOS.


Creative Audigy player card

(Old system:

Gigabyte 7VRXP
Athlon 2000+
Graphics, memory, audio as above.)


Possibly a stupid question: Did you install the drivers that came with
your
motherboard?

Yes: I've installed the nForce2 drivers (latest version from the Asus
website).

Peter

"Kyle Brant" wrote in message
...
"Peter Weir" wrote in message
.. .
|
| "Barry Walsh" wrote in message
| ...

| Your card doesn't support 8x AGP so don't worry about that. Your
AGP
| aperture isn't meant to match your cards memory. It should be set
to
| whatever closest to twice the cards ram plus 12 megs, so set it to
128.
|
| Ah - this I've never been too sure about. I'll give it a try to see
if it
| makes a difference!
|
| You may want to check your AGP acceleration status by start -
run -
| dxdiag.exe and you'll see it in the display tab.
|
| AGP Texture acceleration is enabled.
|
| THe ATi smartgart tool
| is know to have issues setting the AGP acceleration properly.
|
| Interesting one: from my experience with ATI cards, I initially
turned off
| the AGP fast-writes; Smartgart seems to be happy that my card can
run at AGP
| x4. I've just tried enabling fast-writes in the BIOS, but I expect
that
| smartgart will prevent this from making any difference...
|
| Peter
|

I have BIOS setup for fastwrites enabled and 8x and 64M AGP aperture,
but with my 8500 ATI card (64meg), smartgart shows FW disabled and 4x
mode. I did an in place upgrade of win2k when I installed my
a7n8x-dlx mobo (reinstall over current win2k install once mobo was
replaced). I have some faint memory of slower than normal video
response but can only suggest that I uninstalled and reinstalled the
ATI Catalyst drivers (am using ver 3.6) and installed nforce drivers
from asus (later upgrading to the 3.13 ver from nvidia) and my vid
card is working fine speed wise.

Can you run 3dmark2k1se and give us an update on the results. My
system resulted in about 103000 on the test (CPU: XP @ 2088 Mhz,
333Mhz Mem/FSB).

Just run twice, giving scores of 8386 and 8584.

Other info I haven't yet noted: in the BIOS, I have System Performance and
CPU Interface set to Optimal, Memory frequency is by SPD.

Peter

"Ed" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:26:39 -0000, "Peter Weir"
wrote:


"Ed" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:33:11 -0000, Scarletdown
wrote:

"callsignviper" wrote in
news:AoBsb.133163$mZ5.913352@attbi_s54:


"Peter Weir" wrote in message
.. .

Anyone any ideas?

New system:

A7N8X Deluxe rev 2.0
Athlon 3000+
ATI AIW 8500DV
2x512MB PC2700 (not dual channel)

Should be dual channel since it is automatically set by the
BIOS.


That depends on whether or not one of the DIMMs is in the middle
slot. If it is, then you will only get single channel. If I read
the manual correctly, dual channel requires one DIMM in each of the
two outer slots. (Would that be considered 1 and 3?)

Leave the center slot empty (with 2 sticks) and she should boot up in
Dual mode.

Well, from what I had read on this board, the A7N8X can be quite picky
over
the memory used. My two sticks of 512MB are of different makes, so I
thought
I'd start with them only in slots 1 & 2. I may well try it using slots 1
&
3, but I haven't yet.

Peter


Well it says right in the mobo manual, To utilize dual channel memory
feature install the DIMMs in any of the following sequence: sockets 1 &
3 , sockets 2 & 3 or sockets 1, 2 & 3

I don't see 1 & 2 mentioned. ;p

True, but as I mention, I expect that the m'board may get unhappy if I try
to use dual channel with two different makes of memory - so I'm making do
with single channel. Besides, I think the performance difference is only
slim (around 10% or so). Mind you, I'll probably give that a try before
long... :-)

Peter

"Peter Weir" wrote in message
.. .

"Kyle Brant" wrote in message
...
"Peter Weir" wrote in message
.. .
|
| "Barry Walsh" wrote in message
| ...

| Your card doesn't support 8x AGP so don't worry about that. Your
AGP
| aperture isn't meant to match your cards memory. It should be set
to
| whatever closest to twice the cards ram plus 12 megs, so set it to
128.
|
| Ah - this I've never been too sure about. I'll give it a try to see
if it
| makes a difference!
|
| You may want to check your AGP acceleration status by start -
run -
| dxdiag.exe and you'll see it in the display tab.
|
| AGP Texture acceleration is enabled.
|
| THe ATi smartgart tool
| is know to have issues setting the AGP acceleration properly.
|
| Interesting one: from my experience with ATI cards, I initially
turned off
| the AGP fast-writes; Smartgart seems to be happy that my card can
run at AGP
| x4. I've just tried enabling fast-writes in the BIOS, but I expect
that
| smartgart will prevent this from making any difference...
|
| Peter
|

I have BIOS setup for fastwrites enabled and 8x and 64M AGP aperture,
but with my 8500 ATI card (64meg), smartgart shows FW disabled and 4x
mode. I did an in place upgrade of win2k when I installed my
a7n8x-dlx mobo (reinstall over current win2k install once mobo was
replaced). I have some faint memory of slower than normal video
response but can only suggest that I uninstalled and reinstalled the
ATI Catalyst drivers (am using ver 3.6) and installed nforce drivers
from asus (later upgrading to the 3.13 ver from nvidia) and my vid
card is working fine speed wise.

Can you run 3dmark2k1se and give us an update on the results. My
system resulted in about 103000 on the test (CPU: XP @ 2088 Mhz,
333Mhz Mem/FSB).

Just run twice, giving scores of 8386 and 8584.

.... and probably worth mentioning that this is with all the default options
in 3DMark - run straight as installed.

Peter