Non-Canon photo papers for PIXMA iP8500?

measekite wrote:
I know you are trying to be helpful but this NG and the printer NG is
not a venue for you company's advertising aka SPAM.

Ronald Baird wrote:

Greetings Tom,

Kodak has created something called One Touch. This feature is
incorporated
into the Kodak EasyShare Software as well as a stand alone reference from
their website. Please visit

http://www.kodak.com/go/inkjet
http://www.kodak.com/go/onetouch

These two options will give you some insight into what is offered. If
you
go to the Inkjet site, look to the left of the screen and click on
Printer
Settings. If you have a current driver installed for your printer, use
the
suggested settings and you will find that Kodak paper will yield good
results.

The One Touch site gives you the option of downloading and installing the
latest driver adjustments for your printer if you are using the EasyShare
software. Of course, all of this is free.

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company



"tomviolin" wrote in message
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I just purchased a Canon PIXMA iP8500.

Does anyone have any experience using inkjet photo papers other than
Canon brand in this or a similar printer? For example, Kodak papers or
store brands like Office Max photo paper?

I have found the Canon-brand papers to be more expensive with less
variety than, say, HP.

I do have some HP glossy Brochure and Flyer paper lying around, but I
just can't get acceptable results with it on the Canon.

Help, Anyone?







he was responding to a question. Bug off!


--
Ron Hunter

Ron Hunter wrote:

measekite wrote:

I know you are trying to be helpful but this NG and the printer NG is
not a venue for you company's advertising aka SPAM.

Ronald Baird wrote:

Greetings Tom,

Kodak has created something called One Touch. This feature is
incorporated
into the Kodak EasyShare Software as well as a stand alone reference
from
their website. Please visit

http://www.kodak.com/go/inkjet
http://www.kodak.com/go/onetouch

These two options will give you some insight into what is offered.
If you
go to the Inkjet site, look to the left of the screen and click on
Printer
Settings. If you have a current driver installed for your printer,
use the
suggested settings and you will find that Kodak paper will yield good
results.

The One Touch site gives you the option of downloading and
installing the
latest driver adjustments for your printer if you are using the
EasyShare
software. Of course, all of this is free.

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company



"tomviolin" wrote in message
oups.com...


I just purchased a Canon PIXMA iP8500.

Does anyone have any experience using inkjet photo papers other than
Canon brand in this or a similar printer? For example, Kodak
papers or
store brands like Office Max photo paper?

I have found the Canon-brand papers to be more expensive with less
variety than, say, HP.

I do have some HP glossy Brochure and Flyer paper lying around, but I
just can't get acceptable results with it on the Canon.

Help, Anyone?








he was responding to a question. Bug off!


Other people were chastised for doing what he is doing and it really
does not make any difference what the reasons is.

measekite wrote:


Ron Hunter wrote:

measekite wrote:

I know you are trying to be helpful but this NG and the printer NG is
not a venue for you company's advertising aka SPAM.

Ronald Baird wrote:

Greetings Tom,

Kodak has created something called One Touch. This feature is
incorporated
into the Kodak EasyShare Software as well as a stand alone reference
from
their website. Please visit

http://www.kodak.com/go/inkjet
http://www.kodak.com/go/onetouch

These two options will give you some insight into what is offered.
If you
go to the Inkjet site, look to the left of the screen and click on
Printer
Settings. If you have a current driver installed for your printer,
use the
suggested settings and you will find that Kodak paper will yield good
results.

The One Touch site gives you the option of downloading and
installing the
latest driver adjustments for your printer if you are using the
EasyShare
software. Of course, all of this is free.

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company



"tomviolin" wrote in message
oups.com...


I just purchased a Canon PIXMA iP8500.

Does anyone have any experience using inkjet photo papers other than
Canon brand in this or a similar printer? For example, Kodak
papers or
store brands like Office Max photo paper?

I have found the Canon-brand papers to be more expensive with less
variety than, say, HP.

I do have some HP glossy Brochure and Flyer paper lying around, but I
just can't get acceptable results with it on the Canon.

Help, Anyone?









he was responding to a question. Bug off!



Other people were chastised for doing what he is doing and it really
does not make any difference what the reasons is.



You mean you can't mention a product in answer to a question? Since when?


--
Ron Hunter

he was responding to a question. Bug off!


Other people were chastised for doing what he is doing and it really
does not make any difference what the reasons is.

Other people have been told to FO because they were trying 'hard' to sell
there products, mostly without prompting.
Kodak paper has been slated here quite often. I myself did it earlier in
this thread.
Ron was responding to that by stating that if you follow Kodak's printer
setting recommendations you'll get good results. He wasn't recommending it
over anything else or suggesting the OP buy it. I think that his post was
legitimate for this group.
If a product can give good results then knowing about it can only be a good
thing. As it gives us all more choice.

I'd still like to know why Kodak paper is so 'off' on default printer
settings - at least it is with canon printers?

--
Patrick

I also had problems with Kodak paper on my Epson Stylus 900. I installed
the software that Kodak recommended and used the settings they recommended
and still got ink that didn't dry well and bronzing in the dark areas. I
feel that Baird's suggestions are ok on the NG for the reasons you stated,
but I wouldn't use Kodak paper on my Epson or my canon i960. Epson, Canon,
and Kirkland papers work so well that I see no reason to waste my time
tinkering with the Kodak papers.

"Patrick" wrote in message
...
he was responding to a question. Bug off!


Other people were chastised for doing what he is doing and it really
does not make any difference what the reasons is.

Other people have been told to FO because they were trying 'hard' to sell
there products, mostly without prompting.
Kodak paper has been slated here quite often. I myself did it earlier in
this thread.
Ron was responding to that by stating that if you follow Kodak's printer
setting recommendations you'll get good results. He wasn't recommending it
over anything else or suggesting the OP buy it. I think that his post was
legitimate for this group.
If a product can give good results then knowing about it can only be a
good
thing. As it gives us all more choice.

I'd still like to know why Kodak paper is so 'off' on default printer
settings - at least it is with canon printers?

--
Patrick

Burt wrote:
I also had problems with Kodak paper on my Epson Stylus 900. I installed
the software that Kodak recommended and used the settings they recommended
and still got ink that didn't dry well and bronzing in the dark areas. I
feel that Baird's suggestions are ok on the NG for the reasons you stated,
but I wouldn't use Kodak paper on my Epson or my canon i960. Epson, Canon,
and Kirkland papers work so well that I see no reason to waste my time
tinkering with the Kodak papers.


The interesting thing is that EPSON GLOSSY PHOTO PAPER is recommended
for Epson printers only. Yet is works on my Canon like it was designed
for it. I couldn't find any mention on the box itself that it was
compatible with other printers.

But on the Kodak Premium box they claim, front and back, that it "works
on all inkjet printers - HP, Canon, Epson, Lexmark, and Dell." And it
doesn't! How can it be that a company as large as Kodak can produce
a paper so incompatible.

How can a paper made to work exclusively on one line (Epson) outperform
a paper designed for a much wider range of printers.

In fact, EVERY paper I've tried prints fine on my Canon (even Dollar
Store paper - excellent!). Color varies, but they all print fine. Kodak
doesn't even print fine, it produces lines and grain, besides being
somewhat washed out.

-Taliesyn

"Patrick" wrote in message
...

he was responding to a question. Bug off!


Other people were chastised for doing what he is doing and it really
does not make any difference what the reasons is.


Other people have been told to FO because they were trying 'hard' to sell
there products, mostly without prompting.
Kodak paper has been slated here quite often. I myself did it earlier in
this thread.
Ron was responding to that by stating that if you follow Kodak's printer
setting recommendations you'll get good results. He wasn't recommending it
over anything else or suggesting the OP buy it. I think that his post was
legitimate for this group.
If a product can give good results then knowing about it can only be a
good
thing. As it gives us all more choice.

I'd still like to know why Kodak paper is so 'off' on default printer
settings - at least it is with canon printers?

--
Patrick

There is very little difference, if any, in color tone and intensity when
printing on any of the three papers I mentioned when using my i960. I
acutally like the kirkland paper more than the canon pro and it is much
cheaper besides. I would bet that the Kodak paper is simply designed to be
compatable with the Kodak printer/ink system and they have done profiles for
all printers to expand their marketplace. A friend sent me a print, made on
kodak paper in a kodak printer (possibly the one that only does 4x6) and
your can see the darkest areas raised from the surface of the paper. Wierd!
I have seen the kodak rep's posts following every complaint on this NG with
the assurance that the paper is compatable with all the printers with the
suggestion that one downloads and prints out of the kodak software and uses
settings specific to their printer. I followed their instructions and still
couldn't get a decent result (prints didn't dry and had bronzing). In
addition, I waant to use Photoshop to adjust images and print from as well.
Their software is easy but not full featured like PS.

My brother-in-law is not computer literate and never will be. He bought a
Kodak digital camera that takes beautiful pictures - 10x optical zoom, 4
MPixels. One reason he bought it is because it comes with the docking
station and easyprint software. Kodak has approached the segment of the
marketplace that wants a dumbed down system which does not have a steep
learning curve. Not really a bad idea. The camera takes very sharp images
and has lots of excellent features, but it can also be used with very little
computer knowledge. So --- my brother-in-law wanted to know how to use his
camera while abroad and send images back to friends by email. He hadn't
brought his USB cable with hime when he visited us, so I couldn't attach it
to my computer to see if the camera would be recognized as an additional
disk drive. The USB port/cable end that Kodak uses was different from the
standard AB cable used for printers and for my Olympus cameras. I don't
know if the Kodak cable is proprietary or just a different standard cable.
I emailed Kodak tech support and asked if the camera would be recognized as
a drive when attached to the computer via USB cable and the reply said that
he could hook the camera up to a computer, download their software to the
computer, and use their software to send an image by email. I replied that
no one is going to want software installed on their computer by a stranger
who wants to send an email attachment. The tech reply was that he should
buy a usb card reader to use when away from home. We found later that he
could simply attach the camera via USB and it was read as a drive! Kodak
tech support didn't even know its own product. Pretty sad!

"Taliesyn" wrote in message
...
Burt wrote:
I also had problems with Kodak paper on my Epson Stylus 900. I installed
the software that Kodak recommended and used the settings they
recommended and still got ink that didn't dry well and bronzing in the
dark areas. I feel that Baird's suggestions are ok on the NG for the
reasons you stated, but I wouldn't use Kodak paper on my Epson or my
canon i960. Epson, Canon, and Kirkland papers work so well that I see no
reason to waste my time tinkering with the Kodak papers.


The interesting thing is that EPSON GLOSSY PHOTO PAPER is recommended
for Epson printers only. Yet is works on my Canon like it was designed
for it. I couldn't find any mention on the box itself that it was
compatible with other printers.

But on the Kodak Premium box they claim, front and back, that it "works
on all inkjet printers - HP, Canon, Epson, Lexmark, and Dell." And it
doesn't! How can it be that a company as large as Kodak can produce
a paper so incompatible.

How can a paper made to work exclusively on one line (Epson) outperform a
paper designed for a much wider range of printers.

In fact, EVERY paper I've tried prints fine on my Canon (even Dollar
Store paper - excellent!). Color varies, but they all print fine. Kodak
doesn't even print fine, it produces lines and grain, besides being
somewhat washed out.

-Taliesyn

"Patrick" wrote in message
...

he was responding to a question. Bug off!


Other people were chastised for doing what he is doing and it really
does not make any difference what the reasons is.


Other people have been told to FO because they were trying 'hard' to sell
there products, mostly without prompting.
Kodak paper has been slated here quite often. I myself did it earlier in
this thread.
Ron was responding to that by stating that if you follow Kodak's printer
setting recommendations you'll get good results. He wasn't recommending
it
over anything else or suggesting the OP buy it. I think that his post was
legitimate for this group.
If a product can give good results then knowing about it can only be a
good
thing. As it gives us all more choice.

I'd still like to know why Kodak paper is so 'off' on default printer
settings - at least it is with canon printers?

--
Patrick

"Burt" wrote in message
om...
I also had problems with Kodak paper on my Epson Stylus 900. I installed
the software that Kodak recommended and used the settings they recommended
and still got ink that didn't dry well and bronzing in the dark areas.

I think that is what has got my intrest on this. As I said I expect to have
to 'tinker' with the printer setting when trying new paper. However when I
saw the results on default setting that Kodak paper gave I didn't even try -
waste of ink.
Ron Baird however seems to have faith in this product - I'd like to know
why? I can't try the Kodak site as I'm Linux based and windows free. I seem
to recall the process assumes windows.

I know two things and suspect a third;

1/ Kodak is a large and respected company in the world of photography
2/ Their paper seems too bad to be true.
3/ The pack I bought had a slip of paper in it pointing to their website for
printer settings - This makes me think they know they have a lemon.
I
feel that Ron Baird's suggestions are ok on the NG for the reasons you
stated,
but I wouldn't use Kodak paper on my Epson or my canon i960. Epson,
Canon,
and Kirkland papers work so well that I see no reason to waste my time
tinkering with the Kodak papers.

Agreed - but on the off chance we're all stupid and have poor printer set-up
I'd still like to know Kodaks take on why default printer setting and their
paper don't mix!

--
Patrick

I much prefer using Office Depot (Konica), Red River Ultra Pro or Ilford
Gallerie from Sam's over the Kodak Ultima I have on hand. Not just because
of the problems you mention, but because it isn't moisture resistant whereas
the other paper are. However, I have gotten some really nice prints using
Kodak Ultima, but not with any of the recommended settings. It's been a
while since I last used it and don't remember the settings used at the time.
As I get time I'm going to experiment with some of my remaining Ultima (five
packages left) and document the settings. I think that I used glossy paper
setting with my iP4000 and possibly plain paper settings with my i950. Plain
paper definately won't work with the iP4000 since that setting uses
pigmented black and that would cause very noticeable bronzing.
--
Ron Cohen

"Taliesyn" wrote in message
...
Burt wrote:
I also had problems with Kodak paper on my Epson Stylus 900. I installed
the software that Kodak recommended and used the settings they
recommended and still got ink that didn't dry well and bronzing in the
dark areas. I feel that Baird's suggestions are ok on the NG for the
reasons you stated, but I wouldn't use Kodak paper on my Epson or my
canon i960. Epson, Canon, and Kirkland papers work so well that I see no
reason to waste my time tinkering with the Kodak papers.


The interesting thing is that EPSON GLOSSY PHOTO PAPER is recommended
for Epson printers only. Yet is works on my Canon like it was designed
for it. I couldn't find any mention on the box itself that it was
compatible with other printers.

But on the Kodak Premium box they claim, front and back, that it "works
on all inkjet printers - HP, Canon, Epson, Lexmark, and Dell." And it
doesn't! How can it be that a company as large as Kodak can produce
a paper so incompatible.

How can a paper made to work exclusively on one line (Epson) outperform a
paper designed for a much wider range of printers.

In fact, EVERY paper I've tried prints fine on my Canon (even Dollar
Store paper - excellent!). Color varies, but they all print fine. Kodak
doesn't even print fine, it produces lines and grain, besides being
somewhat washed out.

-Taliesyn

"Patrick" wrote in message
...

he was responding to a question. Bug off!


Other people were chastised for doing what he is doing and it really
does not make any difference what the reasons is.


Other people have been told to FO because they were trying 'hard' to sell
there products, mostly without prompting.
Kodak paper has been slated here quite often. I myself did it earlier in
this thread.
Ron was responding to that by stating that if you follow Kodak's printer
setting recommendations you'll get good results. He wasn't recommending
it
over anything else or suggesting the OP buy it. I think that his post was
legitimate for this group.
If a product can give good results then knowing about it can only be a
good
thing. As it gives us all more choice.

I'd still like to know why Kodak paper is so 'off' on default printer
settings - at least it is with canon printers?

--
Patrick

I believe that Baird works for Kodak. I did buy some Ultima paper a few
years ago when it was on a two for one sale at Office Max. I didn't even
try to tinker beyond the Kodak suggested settings as I had paper that worked
well without wasting the time or ink. I gave the Kodak paper away and moved
on! Why waste the time when there are papers that work really well and are
cheaper besides.
"Patrick" wrote in message
...

"Burt" wrote in message
om...
I also had problems with Kodak paper on my Epson Stylus 900. I installed
the software that Kodak recommended and used the settings they
recommended
and still got ink that didn't dry well and bronzing in the dark areas.

I think that is what has got my intrest on this. As I said I expect to
have
to 'tinker' with the printer setting when trying new paper. However when I
saw the results on default setting that Kodak paper gave I didn't even
try -
waste of ink.
Ron Baird however seems to have faith in this product - I'd like to know
why? I can't try the Kodak site as I'm Linux based and windows free. I
seem
to recall the process assumes windows.

I know two things and suspect a third;

1/ Kodak is a large and respected company in the world of photography
2/ Their paper seems too bad to be true.
3/ The pack I bought had a slip of paper in it pointing to their website
for
printer settings - This makes me think they know they have a lemon.
I
feel that Ron Baird's suggestions are ok on the NG for the reasons you
stated,
but I wouldn't use Kodak paper on my Epson or my canon i960. Epson,
Canon,
and Kirkland papers work so well that I see no reason to waste my time
tinkering with the Kodak papers.

Agreed - but on the off chance we're all stupid and have poor printer
set-up
I'd still like to know Kodaks take on why default printer setting and
their
paper don't mix!

--
Patrick