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what's with my ink setup?
For whatever reason, everytime we put one ink, out of a set, in my Epson
CX9400Fax the other inks don't "recognize" it. Therefore, we have to put in all four cartridges together, and everything seems fine. What's going on with this? Why can't I change a single cartridge??? |
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what's with my ink setup?
"rb" wrote in message ... For whatever reason, everytime we put one ink, out of a set, in my Epson CX9400Fax the other inks don't "recognize" it. Therefore, we have to put in all four cartridges together, and everything seems fine. What's going on with this? Why can't I change a single cartridge??? I don't know for sure, but I might conjecture that it's the firmware on the printer not wanting to recognize any cartridge with a third party chip that is not OEM. Now that assumes you are using aftermarket cartridges. If you're using genuine Epson cartridges then I would be very surprised that the printer is annoyed at the replacement of one cartrdige at a time, and I would call Epson up, if the machine is in warranty. If what I say fits your situation you could most likely overcome Epson's insistence to change all the cartridges by using an original Epson cartridge chip on the replacement cartridge and resetting it with a chip resetter. -- Jan Alter |
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what's with my ink setup?
Well, it's not Epson ink going in. And, I think you're probably down the
right road on this one. I have a feeling it's a chip problem, too. What is a chip resetter? Where find? |
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what's with my ink setup?
"rb" wrote in message ... Well, it's not Epson ink going in. And, I think you're probably down the right road on this one. I have a feeling it's a chip problem, too. What is a chip resetter? Where find? The chip resetter re-programs the chip to read full again. If you do a google search for 'Epson chip resetters' you will find lots of hits and explanations to how they work. Attempting to find one for your machine (CX9400) left me in a vacuum, as it appears to be a newer model that has 9 pins on the chip rather than the usual 7 for various older models. It may be that chip resetter folks have not got them out on the market yet. Jan Alter |
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what's with my ink setup?
OK. Yeah, now I understand.
Just could be no chip setters for mine yet. I think my cartridges all have to be from one source, so they have the same chip. It's irritating --- but ---so far, I think the low Ebay ink prices are still keeping me ahead of buying Epson. |
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what's with my ink setup?
The first thing we need to know is what you are using to replace the
cartridge. 1) An new Epson (OEM) cartridge. This is one that you buy from a store and is in a cardboard box that states it is a new cartridge manufactured by Epson. (there are also very well made counterfeit cartridges out there that look identical to Epson's own) 2) A new cartridge made by another manufacturer than Epson 3) A commercially refilled cartridge which may use an Epson cartridge shell or another brand 4) A cartridge which you had refilled locally 5) A cartridge which you have refilled with ink The problem you are experiencing may have a different cause depending upon which type of cartridge situation you are involved in. If it is an Epson OEM cartridge, chances are the microchip on the cartridge is fine, in which case you need to look at the small gold wires which contact that chip pad to make sure they are clean and not distorted. To clean them, use a cotton swab and wet it in isopropyl alcohol, and gently clean the wires and allow them to dry. You can also gently wipe the chip pad on the cartridge (the small circuit board with some flat contact points on it). Make sure the cartridge is fully inserted, or it may also misread the chip. If the wires are distorted or damaged, you may be able to gently reposition them using a bend paperclip. However, be careful, they are made of a brittle metal and will not tolerate a lot of bending. If the cartridges are not Epson brand, the chips are sometimes not programmed correctly for your printer, and the printer will throw an error (flashing lights, or otherwise). In some cases you can reprogram these chips with a chip resetter. They are for sale both at some retail stores and through places on line, including ebay. They are a small device that reprograms the chip for your printer, but you need to purchase the correct resetter for your printer model. They are battery operated and can be used over and over. The chip I speak of here monitors the amount of ink that is supposed to be left in the cartridge. I say supposed, because it is not the actual reading of the ink, but one based upon an assumption of ink used during printing and cleaning cycles subtracted from an assumed full cartridge. If you have an "empty cartridge (the printer indicates the cartridge needs replacing) and you refill it yourself but do not reset the cartridge chip, when you reinstall that cartridge, the printer will still read the chip as empty, and the printer will not accept that cartridge even if it is now filled with ink. In order for the cartridge to be acknowledge you need to reset the cartridge with a resetter device, as mentioned earlier. Lastly, if you wish to avoid paying for a chip resetter, you can use a free program available on line for some cartridges. This program can "freeze" the ink level at whatever level it is currently at. It will not inform you when you cartridge is running out or empty, however, and it will not work for a cartridge which is already empty or indicating it needs replacement. That software can be found at: http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml Please read the instructions carefully. If you have further questions please ask, but provide extra details to help us pursue this. Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ rb wrote: For whatever reason, everytime we put one ink, out of a set, in my Epson CX9400Fax the other inks don't "recognize" it. Therefore, we have to put in all four cartridges together, and everything seems fine. What's going on with this? Why can't I change a single cartridge??? |
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Thanks for the help.
What I've done is buy several cheap ebay sources of ink. Now, I have to change 'em all four out, or none will work, according to Epson error message. Good info you guys have provided me with. |
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what's with my ink setup?
Hi Jan, Thanks for the information you discovered. I have looked to see if there are 9 pin resetters out yet, and there are a number of sources for them now. Some claim to work on both 7 and 9 pin, and although I haven't found any that specifically mentioned the CX9400Fax printers, several mention the CX 8400 or CX7400 which seem to use the same ink cartridges as the CX9400Fax. There are a number of sources for auto-reset chips for these and many other Epson printer cartridges. I agree that mixing them with "one use" cartridges (which require a rest to be refilled and installed) is probably a bad idea as it probably confuses the firmware. Particularly with the newer Epson printers, which have been redesigned and programed, mixing 3rd party (aftermarket) ink cartridges with OEM may also cause some confusion with some chips and some models, so I agree again that it may be best to do a complete replacement on the first switch over, but if one sticks to the same brand cartridges and a similar vintage, once that switch occurs things should work afterward. Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ Jan Alter wrote: Hi Art, I installed the current ssclg utility and found that it does not support the CX9400 FAX printer, so I don't think that will be of much help here. Although I don't have one of this machine's cartridges in front of me web searches seem to indicate that it carries a 9 pin chip on the cartridge, which makes the standard 7 pin resetters unworkable for this particular animal. Additionally the OP indicates that everything works fine when he replaces all cartridges together, which I've come across before using the C88 and installing aftermarket auto-reset chips. If one tries to install just one cartridge with a reset chip the printer balks and sends out a flashing red light. If one changes all four cartridges with ones that have the auto-reset chip then the printer works and only sends out a software inquiry noting that the cartridges are different from Epson, and asks if one still wants to continue using the cartridges. So I am conjecturing that the printer is handling these aftermarket chips the same way. |
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what's with my ink setup?
rb wrote: Well, it's not Epson ink going in. And, I think you're probably down the right road on this one. I have a feeling it's a chip problem, too. What is a chip resetter? Where find? No it is a user problem. If a user follows the recommendations in the Epson manual then this would not be a problem. Go to a store and replace all of the carts with epson ink and the problem will go aaway. |
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