Question re Canon iP1500

"Mary" wrote in :


I don't print b&w photos. But I am using Kodak photo paper for my Canon
printer. I always used Kodak double sided semi-gloss photo paper with
Staples brand carts and photos printed were always ok.

That is part of it. Kodak paper requires magenta be cranked down a bit.

On my printer, color adjustment can be set in another area. Not under
colour management.
When I put a jpg on the screen and click on print then Properties, under
Main Tab there is a setting Automatic or Manual and you can set for
Manual and there are color adjustments you can make for magenta,blue and
yellow. I could try reducing magenta and see if that reduces the pinkish
cast on my colour photos.

Yes, do that. You can set that as a profile under the profile tabe when you
get that working.


I am not sure what you mean by greyscale. I only know greyscale is for
b&w photos.

Basically, greyscale is a mathematic sum of the component colors to produce
a level of grey or black. If one of the colors is off, you will get a
tinted black.or grey

I wonder if the printer has a problem, because of the message "waste ink
absorber is almost full, press Resume button". I've never seen that
message before. Also, I've used same Staples cart and Kodak photo paper
and my prints were always OK with no pinkish cast till now. I only
tried Canon cartridge to see if my photos still had the same pinkish
cast as they had with the Staples brand cart, which it did.
Thanks for your suggestions.

MaryW

It might have problems.

Mary wrote:
I'll have to see what printers are available here and go from there. We
are more limited for variety of printers you have. You have 10 times the
population we have, so you have more competition, which means cheaper
prices, and more variety. I have 4 Staples stores not too far away from
where I live, and notice that in different Staples they have some
different models that other stores don't have on display. I don't know
if they would have iP 5000 or not, but if iP 4000 is more than I want to
pay, iP 5000 would be even more money. From my experience with Epson, I
vowed never to get 4 different cartridges again. I really don't want to
buy carts online if I don't have to. I am not sure what I am going to
get yet and would have to look around. Staples in Canada have an online
site and have iP 4000 advertised there but its about twice the price I
paid for the one I have, so I would have to pay about $60.00 Can. plus
15% tax which is what we pay, so thats $80.00 Can. =$68.30 US. I can't
really afford that right now, and may have to stop printing photos at
home. The cartridges are too expensive, and I need to start using the
Kodak machines you get at Walmart and other places.

Walmart is a good solid solution for photos, but I must submit in the
case of Canon, and usually in the case of Epson, the 4 or 5 cartridge
makes the best ecconomic sence. The ip1500 and even the old bj-2100
offered thimble sized cartridges which increase your cost per page.
Last time I did the math it was about double the cost.

$80 canadian for the ip4000 is a dang good deal, likely to be a limited
time deal as this model has been replaced by the ip4200 which is as I
said in another responce not so easy to refill.

To really lower costs, consider refilling your self. I'm not up on
Canadian companies, but hobbicolors on e-bay has the best price, and
enough people have used it to sugest it's good. You might ask if they
are willing to ship via US post declairing it as "stationary supplies
Gift $20.00". That's what it costs, it's the truth, well except the
gift part.
http://hobbicolors.com/page5.html

For the moment i'll assume US$30, UK would be $12 to ship and canada
should be similar. So CDN$35, or let's say CDN$40 just to be safe.
This represents about 4 refills of color, and 4 refills of pigmented
black. Slightly over, but i'm lazy. CDN$2.50 each.

Assuming an average price of CDN$16.75 per color and dye black, and CDN
$18 for the big pigmented black, this works out to be CDN $340 plus 15%
tax CDN$391. Even the Staple compatables are at best CDN$13.46 each, a
good deal more than CDN $2.50 each. When taking paper into account,
this would likely undercut Walmart printing.

This is not to say one can't easily refill a ip-1500, just simply the
cartridges are smaller and there isn't the level of aftermarket support
for it, esp that tri-color tank. I "imagine" the ip1600 could be, but
this is a tad more touchy as they are tanks with cartridges onboard,
much more difficult than a transparent tank with a wod of foam on the
inside.

But as burt says it's up to you. The ip4000 at that price, and manual
refilling makes buckets of economic sense, even if you go for
compatables. Checkout nifty regarding Canadian solutions.

"zakezuke" wrote in message
oups.com...
I cleaned the printer as much
as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is my
printer finished?

First, pay no attention to measekite. He harasses anyone who makes
the
choice to use non-oem ink.

He seems to harrass people for other reasons as well, though maybe he
specializes in "non-oem inks"

I know nothing about staples ink, never
used it personaly.

I've used it for a year and its been OK.

Secondly, Burt's advice is sound. I have the mp760 which is rather
like the mp780. Good printer and infact sold for close to $300 just
last month. $150 plus the vast supply of aftermarket ink might be a
wise investment. The ip4200 seems to fetch as little as $90ish. The
ip5200 I just ordered for $120. This is less than the mp780 for
higher
resolution, but there are not any easy aftermarket cartridges for them
yet.

Since I am in Canada, some of the models you get will not be available
here and many are higher priced. I see the ip4200 on Staples Canada site
and its $160..00 Can.$ with tax which is my layout. ( $136.00 US.) (You
mention above a figure of $90.00 US so its a lot more here). Your
population is much higher than ours so means more competition, which
means better prices and more variety. We don't have these same benefits,
even though our dollar is much higher than it used to be when compared
to the US dollar. I really don't want to pay $160.00 so I might have to
just print my photos at a photo machine for 29 cents each. A lot cheaper
than buying carts all the time.

Do as Burt sugests, do a nozzle check and make sure the issue is the
nozzles. There is a technique using windex, toilet paper, and pushing
on nifty forums, assuming your warranty has expired. If not, don't
muck about, call canon and get that printhead replaced for free.

The ip1500 is not their best egg. My niece has an older generation BJ
that is similar in many ways, perfectly acceptable for her needs but
not the sort of printer i'd invest money in parts on. I say this
because the replacement printhead costs $50ish QY6-054-000 if i'm not
mistaken, shared with the i450 i470 iP1500 MP390. Keep in mind that
these printheads do have a limited life, and it's very likely it's
simply burnt out, esp since you've reached a full inkpad.

Your niece might have the older one I have and still have around
somewhere. Its the BJC 2100 and it was a great printer and the reason I
stopped using it was the printhead was something around $50.00 US. It
also can be used with a black only bigger type cartridge but its around
$35.00 US. so I don't use that printer any more. But it was a much
better quality printer than the ip1500 and it was cheap to buy too.

So we have worst case of $50 to fix, assuming your issue is the
printhead, not to speak of the diaper. The ip1600 costs $29.00 on
amazon.com using their slugish super saver shipping. Not that i'd
reccomend the ip1600 as unlike your ip1500 it doesn't use a seperate
head, but rather heads on the cartridge adding to the cost per refill.
I'd have to check to see if it's onpar with the cost of the old
ip1500.

Its around $60.00 US (price with tax for me) so about the same price as
I paid for the ip1500. plus our 15% killer tax I call it..

But it sounds like you print enough to justify something above and
beyond a $50 model.

I'm surprised the ip1600 changed to a cart where you need to buy the
printhead each time. That would be expensive. I don't want to pay more
than $70.00 US..

Given that your waste ink pad is "almost full" after 1 year of use, I
would reccomend you at least consider upgrading to a model more geared
tward your use, either that or stick with $50 models and make sure to
use it so much that your waste ink full warnings come before the
warranty expires.

I bought an extended warranty which won't be up for another year. I
don't print photos very often, but when I do, I print quite a few and
looks like the printer has had it. So I might have to get a $60.00 or
$70.00 model and print less photos. Either that, or as you say, pay more
and get a printer more geared to printing photos. The ip1500 was good in
a way as it was more of an all purpose printer. It was fine till I got
my digital camera and started to print photos.

-older generation- Cheap easy aftermarket tanks
*-ip3000 Base model, $100 range on e-bay
-ip4000 Same thing but with an extra black for photos.
**-mp780 Same as above, but a beast of a multifuction, bargin at $150
-ip5000 HIgher resolution, same as the new models but take the old
cartridges

-current generation- Not so easy to refill
-ip4200 Good entry level printer $90ish to $120
***-ip5200 Heavier, faster, more nozzles, more money. $120ish to
$150ish

* I own
** I have something damn close
*** I'm waiting for

I picked the ip5200 because I print a heck of alot of CDs. While my
ip3000 is just peachy, I wanted something with higher resolution and
the price was right.

Do checkout nifty regarding cleaning, and alternative cartridges for
your printer that are cheaper than the store brand you bought.

First thing I have to do is look around some Staples stores. Toronto has
a large population and there are 4 Staples stores not far from me, so I
need to see which printer models and prices they have , then I check the
prices of cartridges for the various models I am interested in and go
from there.
Thanks for all your good information.

Mary

"Burt" wrote in message
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"Mary" wrote in message
...
"measekite" wrote in message news:FSbYf.63835

Mary wrote:

Burt:

Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does


everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your
enjoying


it.

Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during
that
time


till I got a new Staples compatible

THATS WHAT I MEAN.

You had to quote the whole message just to say 4 words?

If you had read what I said below this paragraph I am typing you
would
have noticed that I said that I had ALWAYS used Staples compatibles.
I
have never used Canon brand name cartridges since I got the computer
a
year ago. When I said my printer worked fine since I got the printer
tilll I got a new Staples compatible, I meant to emphasize the word
"NEW" meaning it was a new cartridge. It was not meant to be that
STaples cartridge was new to me. I used Staples compatible
cartridges
ever since I had the printer. I only tried a Canon name brand
because
the Staples cartridge had this pink tinge to my photos and I wanted
to
see if the Canon carts did the same and they did. The Staples carts
which I've used all along, never had that pink cast before and I've
used
tons of Staples cartridges.

but that is what I have always
used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a
pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the
Canon
brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples
compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its
something to do with the printer.

Mary - you are new to this newsgroup and feel compelled to try to
reason
with our troll. Don't waste the keystrokes! You'll just get more of
the
same back from him. Killfile him in your newsgroup reader.

OK, I will kill file him.

Mary

"Burt" wrote in message
news
"Mary" wrote in message
...
"Tony" wrote in message You can e-mail
me
(snip)

I will email you from my hotmail account in a little while. I would
like
to try the reset though I am not sure it will work. This is what I
get
for printing too many photos lately. I broke my printer
Actually, I don't use the printer all that often to print photos.
But when I do, I get a bit carried away, but maybe I will have to
stop
printing so many photos.Its just since I got a digital camera 5
months
ago.
I really dont want a printer that is more than I want to pay.

Mary

Mary - The printer companies sell their lower end printers at a low
price to
assure themselves of a customer who will spend a great deal over the
life of
the printer on their high priced ink.

Yes, I know that.

If you can find the printers I
mentioned and spend a bit more on one of them than the ip1500 or the
ip1600
you will reap the benefit of REALLY cheap ink instead of the very
modest
savings you had with the Staples carts.

So far I haven't seen the ip1500 in STaples and I have to deal with them
to get a new printer undr my extended warranty. I really don't want to
pay a lot for a printer.

Also, if you have a Costco store
where you live you can buy excellent glossy photo paper, either 4x6
(about
five cents US a sheet) or 8.5x11 (125 sheets for $19 US), and cut the
price
of your printing down so much that you will enjoy your digital camera
even
more. If you really want to save money you can learn to refill your
cartridges with bulk inks especially formulated for your printer at a
cost
of about $1 US per refill. At that rate it is almost free! With the
money
you will save you can buy another printer and not even worry about the
old
one failing.

I don't think I am ambitious enough to do refilling with bulk inks. Its
not something I have any desire to do to tell you the truth. I think I
can do ok just getting a printer I can afford, and the ones suggested by
most people here are quite a lot more money here than in the US.
There is a Cosco store near me, but membership is $40.00 or $50.00 or
something and I can't justify it as I used to go there but found that I
didn't get my money out of it and preferred to shop other places.
Besides, there is no guarantee that the same things you can buy in the
US can be bought here as well. When buying products you have a lot more
choices than we do and lower prices. There is often a lot of good sales
here though, so usually I wait for them and with my camera, I bought it
on sale at a cheaper price than most camera stores in the US listed them
as. Its very challenging to live here in regards to prices. You have to
be a good bargain hunter or can pay through the nose. I have to watch my
money Burt.

Mary

Gary Tait wrote:

"Mary" wrote in :



I don't print b&w photos. But I am using Kodak photo paper for my Canon
printer. I always used Kodak double sided semi-gloss photo paper with
Staples brand carts and photos printed were always ok.



That is part of it. Kodak paper requires magenta be cranked down a bit.



On my printer, color adjustment can be set in another area. Not under
colour management.
When I put a jpg on the screen and click on print then Properties, under
Main Tab there is a setting Automatic or Manual and you can set for
Manual and there are color adjustments you can make for magenta,blue and
yellow. I could try reducing magenta and see if that reduces the pinkish
cast on my colour photos.



Yes, do that. You can set that as a profile under the profile tabe when you
get that working.




I am not sure what you mean by greyscale. I only know greyscale is for
b&w photos.



Basically, greyscale is a mathematic sum of the component colors to produce
a level of grey or black. If one of the colors is off, you will get a
tinted black.or grey



I wonder if the printer has a problem, because of the message "waste ink
absorber is almost full, press Resume button". I've never seen that
message before. Also, I've used same Staples cart and Kodak photo paper
and my prints were always OK with no pinkish cast till now. I only
tried Canon cartridge to see if my photos still had the same pinkish
cast as they had with the Staples brand cart, which it did.
Thanks for your suggestions.

MaryW



It might have problems.



TATER TOT HAS PROBLEMS

Mary wrote:

"Burt" wrote in message
.com...


"Mary" wrote in message
...


"measekite" wrote in message news:FSbYf.63835



Mary wrote:


Burt:



Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does




everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your


enjoying




it.

Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during


that


time



till I got a new Staples compatible



THATS WHAT I MEAN.


You had to quote the whole message just to say 4 words?

If you had read what I said below this paragraph I am typing you


would


have noticed that I said that I had ALWAYS used Staples compatibles.


I


have never used Canon brand name cartridges since I got the computer


a


year ago. When I said my printer worked fine since I got the printer
tilll I got a new Staples compatible, I meant to emphasize the word
"NEW" meaning it was a new cartridge. It was not meant to be that
STaples cartridge was new to me. I used Staples compatible


cartridges


ever since I had the printer. I only tried a Canon name brand


because


the Staples cartridge had this pink tinge to my photos and I wanted


to


see if the Canon carts did the same and they did. The Staples carts
which I've used all along, never had that pink cast before and I've


used


tons of Staples cartridges.



but that is what I have always
used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a
pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the


Canon


brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples
compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its
something to do with the printer.


Mary - you are new to this newsgroup and feel compelled to try to


reason


with our troll. Don't waste the keystrokes! You'll just get more of


the


same back from him. Killfile him in your newsgroup reader.



OK, I will kill file him.

Mary


I KILLFILED BURTIE FURTIE

Mary wrote:

"zakezuke" wrote in message
roups.com...


I cleaned the printer as much
as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is my
printer finished?


First, pay no attention to measekite. He harasses anyone who makes


the


choice to use non-oem ink.



He seems to harrass people for other reasons as well, though maybe he
specializes in "non-oem inks"


MY GOD ITS MARY MARY QUITE CONTRARY

I know nothing about staples ink, never


used it personaly.



I've used it for a year and its been OK.



Secondly, Burt's advice is sound. I have the mp760 which is rather
like the mp780. Good printer and infact sold for close to $300 just
last month. $150 plus the vast supply of aftermarket ink might be a
wise investment. The ip4200 seems to fetch as little as $90ish. The
ip5200 I just ordered for $120. This is less than the mp780 for


higher


resolution, but there are not any easy aftermarket cartridges for them
yet.



Since I am in Canada, some of the models you get will not be available
here and many are higher priced. I see the ip4200 on Staples Canada site
and its $160..00 Can.$ with tax which is my layout. ( $136.00 US.) (You
mention above a figure of $90.00 US so its a lot more here). Your
population is much higher than ours so means more competition, which
means better prices and more variety. We don't have these same benefits,
even though our dollar is much higher than it used to be when compared
to the US dollar. I really don't want to pay $160.00 so I might have to
just print my photos at a photo machine for 29 cents each. A lot cheaper
than buying carts all the time.



Do as Burt sugests, do a nozzle check and make sure the issue is the
nozzles. There is a technique using windex, toilet paper, and pushing
on nifty forums, assuming your warranty has expired. If not, don't
muck about, call canon and get that printhead replaced for free.

The ip1500 is not their best egg. My niece has an older generation BJ
that is similar in many ways, perfectly acceptable for her needs but
not the sort of printer i'd invest money in parts on. I say this
because the replacement printhead costs $50ish QY6-054-000 if i'm not
mistaken, shared with the i450 i470 iP1500 MP390. Keep in mind that
these printheads do have a limited life, and it's very likely it's
simply burnt out, esp since you've reached a full inkpad.



Your niece might have the older one I have and still have around
somewhere. Its the BJC 2100 and it was a great printer and the reason I
stopped using it was the printhead was something around $50.00 US. It
also can be used with a black only bigger type cartridge but its around
$35.00 US. so I don't use that printer any more. But it was a much
better quality printer than the ip1500 and it was cheap to buy too.



So we have worst case of $50 to fix, assuming your issue is the
printhead, not to speak of the diaper. The ip1600 costs $29.00 on
amazon.com using their slugish super saver shipping. Not that i'd
reccomend the ip1600 as unlike your ip1500 it doesn't use a seperate
head, but rather heads on the cartridge adding to the cost per refill.
I'd have to check to see if it's onpar with the cost of the old


ip1500.

Its around $60.00 US (price with tax for me) so about the same price as
I paid for the ip1500. plus our 15% killer tax I call it..



But it sounds like you print enough to justify something above and
beyond a $50 model.



I'm surprised the ip1600 changed to a cart where you need to buy the
printhead each time. That would be expensive. I don't want to pay more
than $70.00 US..



Given that your waste ink pad is "almost full" after 1 year of use, I
would reccomend you at least consider upgrading to a model more geared
tward your use, either that or stick with $50 models and make sure to
use it so much that your waste ink full warnings come before the
warranty expires.



I bought an extended warranty which won't be up for another year. I
don't print photos very often, but when I do, I print quite a few and
looks like the printer has had it. So I might have to get a $60.00 or
$70.00 model and print less photos. Either that, or as you say, pay more
and get a printer more geared to printing photos. The ip1500 was good in
a way as it was more of an all purpose printer. It was fine till I got
my digital camera and started to print photos.



-older generation- Cheap easy aftermarket tanks
*-ip3000 Base model, $100 range on e-bay
-ip4000 Same thing but with an extra black for photos.
**-mp780 Same as above, but a beast of a multifuction, bargin at $150
-ip5000 HIgher resolution, same as the new models but take the old
cartridges

-current generation- Not so easy to refill
-ip4200 Good entry level printer $90ish to $120
***-ip5200 Heavier, faster, more nozzles, more money. $120ish to
$150ish

* I own
** I have something damn close
*** I'm waiting for

I picked the ip5200 because I print a heck of alot of CDs. While my
ip3000 is just peachy, I wanted something with higher resolution and
the price was right.

Do checkout nifty regarding cleaning, and alternative cartridges for
your printer that are cheaper than the store brand you bought.



First thing I have to do is look around some Staples stores. Toronto has
a large population and there are 4 Staples stores not far from me, so I
need to see which printer models and prices they have , then I check the
prices of cartridges for the various models I am interested in and go
from there.
Thanks for all your good information.

Mary

Mary wrote:

"measekite" wrote in message news:FSbYf.63835



Mary wrote:



Burt:



Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does




everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your


enjoying




it.

Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during


that


time



till I got a new Staples compatible



THATS WHAT I MEAN.



You had to quote the whole message just to say 4 words?

If you had read what I said below this paragraph I am typing you would
have noticed that I said that I had ALWAYS used Staples compatibles. I
have never used Canon brand name cartridges since I got the computer a
year ago. When I said my printer worked fine since I got the printer
tilll I got a new Staples compatible, I meant to emphasize the word
"NEW" meaning it was a new cartridge.

IF YOU KEEP TOUCHING THE STOVE YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET BURNT

It was not meant to be that
STaples cartridge was new to me. I used Staples compatible cartridges
ever since I had the printer. I only tried a Canon name brand because
the Staples cartridge had this pink tinge to my photos and I wanted to
see if the Canon carts did the same and they did. The Staples carts
which I've used all along, never had that pink cast before and I've used
tons of Staples cartridges.



but that is what I have always
used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a
pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the


Canon


brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples
compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its
something to do with the printer.

"zakezuke" wrote in message
ups.com...

Mary wrote:
I'll have to see what printers are available here and go from there.
We
are more limited for variety of printers you have. You have 10 times
the
population we have, so you have more competition, which means
cheaper
prices, and more variety. I have 4 Staples stores not too far away
from
where I live, and notice that in different Staples they have some
different models that other stores don't have on display. I don't
know
if they would have iP 5000 or not, but if iP 4000 is more than I
want to
pay, iP 5000 would be even more money. From my experience with
Epson, I
vowed never to get 4 different cartridges again. I really don't want
to
buy carts online if I don't have to. I am not sure what I am going
to
get yet and would have to look around. Staples in Canada have an
online
site and have iP 4000 advertised there but its about twice the price
I
paid for the one I have, so I would have to pay about $60.00 Can.
plus
15% tax which is what we pay, so thats $80.00 Can. =$68.30 US. I
can't
really afford that right now, and may have to stop printing photos
at
home. The cartridges are too expensive, and I need to start using
the
Kodak machines you get at Walmart and other places.

Walmart is a good solid solution for photos, but I must submit in the
case of Canon, and usually in the case of Epson, the 4 or 5 cartridge
makes the best ecconomic sence.

Maybe, but going back and forth every week or two is not my idea of fun.
I would rather put up with the three in one colors and print less
photos. I have an allergy to buying printer cartridges.
Must be my Scotch blood. Seems like everybody complains about the prices
charged. Yes, they have to make their money from cartridges, but I think
I would rather pay more for the printer and a LOT less for cartridges.
Just bugs me no end.

The ip1500 and even the old bj-2100
offered thimble sized cartridges which increase your cost per page.
Last time I did the math it was about double the cost.

I wasn't printing many photos then, so those printers were fine for me
and I might go back to not printing many photos again. Its getting too
expensive.

$80 canadian for the ip4000 is a dang good deal, likely to be a
limited
time deal as this model has been replaced by the ip4200 which is as I
said in another responce not so easy to refill.

I meant I would have to pay $80.00 Can. for the difference between
handing in my old printer and getting a new one. The ip4000 is $150.00
Can. if I were to go to the store and buy it without considering I am
giving back my ip1500. On the other hand, I could take my printer back
and pay nothing or maybe another $20.00 to get something a little
better, but I wasn't thinking of paying $80.00 more. And I don't want a
printer that is not three colors in one cartridge.

To really lower costs, consider refilling your self. I'm not up on
Canadian companies, but hobbicolors on e-bay has the best price, and
enough people have used it to sugest it's good. You might ask if they
are willing to ship via US post declairing it as "stationary supplies
Gift $20.00". That's what it costs, it's the truth, well except the
gift part.
http://hobbicolors.com/page5.html

Usually if its a company, they won't undervalue their declaration. With
individuals you can do almost all the time, but companies are different
and are more cautious. I've never looked into buying ink online, but I
know thee are some Canadian sites sell it. I don't think I would want to
do refills. seems like a pain to me.

For the moment i'll assume US$30, UK would be $12 to ship and canada
should be similar. So CDN$35, or let's say CDN$40 just to be safe.
This represents about 4 refills of color, and 4 refills of pigmented
black. Slightly over, but i'm lazy. CDN$2.50 each.

Where do you get UK from on your top line?

Assuming an average price of CDN$16.75 per color and dye black, and
CDN
$18 for the big pigmented black, this works out to be CDN $340 plus
15%
tax CDN$391. Even the Staple compatables are at best CDN$13.46 each,
a
good deal more than CDN $2.50 each. When taking paper into account,
this would likely undercut Walmart printing.

You mean I would pay $391.00? I could buy a lot of printers for that.
I'm sure you don't mean that.

This is not to say one can't easily refill a ip-1500, just simply the
cartridges are smaller and there isn't the level of aftermarket
support
for it, esp that tri-color tank. I "imagine" the ip1600 could be, but
this is a tad more touchy as they are tanks with cartridges onboard,
much more difficult than a transparent tank with a wod of foam on the
inside.

I haven't looked into one of the ink refillers here. When I had the
Epson after a while, I got the tanks refilled at an ink refilling place
in a mall not too far from me. But I don't want to do separate color
cartridges again. I got very put off and seemed to always be getting
them refilled. Epson charged a lot for their carts.

But as burt says it's up to you. The ip4000 at that price, and manual
refilling makes buckets of economic sense, even if you go for
compatables. Checkout nifty regarding Canadian solutions.

The Ip4000 is $150.00 Can. to buy. If I take back the ip5000, I would
have to pay $80.00 to make the price up to $150.00 and the ip4000 has
separate cartridges which I don't want. I would rather print less photos
and use the tri color carts.

Mry