Question re Canon iP1500

"Mary" wrote:
"Tony" wrote in message
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"Mary" wrote:
"measekite" wrote in message
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Mary wrote:

Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been
working
fine till last week.
Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK
for
me. Last week, I got a
new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always
printed
photos fine. But they had a
little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not
terrible,
but
I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better
before.
I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color
cart.
But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
cleanings and it says "waste ink absorber is almost full, press
Resume
button". It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I
also
notice after
printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full
which
should be down a little by now.
I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or
is
blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer
as
much
as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is
my
printer finished?

MaryW



YOU FURTHER COMPLICATED YOUR PIECE OF TRASH PRINTER BY PUTTING IN A
GREATER PIECE OF TRASH INK AND YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED. IF YOU
FEEL
YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON THEN GO OUT AND BUY A CANON IP5200.

What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
bother replying if this is your best advice.

Mary

Mary
Sorry you got the diatribe from the low life here.

Yeah, I should have checked his previous replies to people and I
wouldn't have bothered to answer. It always mystifies me why people want
to be trolls. Such a useless pursuit.

Just to re-inforce what Burt has said about the waste absorber.
There are two of them in this printer but the printer does not report
which one
is nearly full.

Are they the two square pad things in the white plastic container thing
with dividers at the bottom right side of the printer where you can't
get at very well?

Unfortunately I know of no codes to reset the counters, you
have to use a special piece of Canon software to reset the counters.
This
software also tells you which of the waste ink counters is nearing
full.
If you would like to have a go at that please e-mail me and I will see
if I can
help.

But would re-setting the counters help my situation if my problem is
clogged colors?
What does "waste ink absorbers almost full" mean? Do you have a hotmail
or yahoo or other email address?
Thanks.

Mary

Mary
You can e-mail me at



The waste ink counter problem is not related to the poor quality print.
The waste pads are actually deep inside the printer on the base plate, or near
enough. Don't worry about the ink sitting in the capping station that is normal.
It is likely that the pads are not full yet and that if you reset them you
would be OK until the next time you get the message, at that time pad
replacement is a must or you may get ink spillage.
The symptoms you describe (poor print quality) indicates to me that the
printhead is failing so I strongly suggest that you get it in for warranty
replacement as soon as you can. They may just provide you with a new printhead
which is simple to replace (it comes with full instructions), it does not come
with new ink cartridges.
Compatible ink does not damage printheads whatever our low life says, he knows
next to nothing about printers, Burt and I and many others here know heaps.
The ip1600 uses cartridges with integrated print heads so you get one black and
one tricolour cartridge and when they run out of ink you get a new printhead as
well, unfortunately there are no compatible cartridges for that model yet but
they can be refilled (I don't know how easy or effective it is).
If you do want to try the reset I will send you the utility but cannot post it
to a non-binary newsgroup so I would need your e-mail address, if you prefer
not to do that I will post it to a free server and post the url here.
Tony

"Mary" wrote in message
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"Burt" wrote in message news:ct1Yf.65766
The best news of all is that you are still under warranty. I did buy three
i5000 printers a few months ago at two staples stores in our area. They
were unadvertised and just happened to be on a closeout for $100 US each.
Don't reject the separate color carts idea yet - if you can find an ip4000,
ip5000, or the mp printer I mentioned in a previous post, you can buy
prefilled aftermarket carts online for $3 US or less and they hold a lot
more ink than your present printer carts. I don't remember the exact
volume, but I think that your present cart only has something like 7 ml. of
ink per color and when one runs out you throw the whole thing away. The
bci-6 carts have 13 to 14 ml of ink each - about double, and the aftermarket
ones I'll mention below are less than $3 US each (plus shipping, of course.)
For Canadian sources of aftermarket inks or for info on which companies ship
to Canada, send an email to Taliesyn - you can find some of his posts on
this newsgroup.

Look at the following sites for more information:

http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/

http://www.neilslade.com/papers/badink.html

G&G and Procolor carts from Alotofthings.com were tested by Neil Slade and
his test photos are on his site. You will save considerably more money on
these inks with the five separate cart printers if you can find one
available. You might have your staples store check their warehouse facility
for a stray ip5000 if they don't have one in stock and you may just be able
to have them give it to you to satisfy the extended warranty. If
aftermarket carts were currently available I would then suggest the ip4200
or ip5200.

"Mary" wrote in message
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"Burt" wrote in message news:ct1Yf.65766

"measekite" wrote in message
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Mary wrote:

Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been
working
fine till last week.
Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK
for
me. Last week, I got a
new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always
printed
photos fine. But they had a
little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not
terrible,
but
I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better
before.
I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color
cart.
But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
cleanings and it says "waste ink absorber is almost full, press
Resume
button". It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I
also
notice after
printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full
which
should be down a little by now.
I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or
is
blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer
as
much
as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is
my
printer finished?

MaryW


(snipped Measekite's mean-spirited, unhelpful response to Mary)


What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
bother replying if this is your best advice.

Mary

Mary - you've just encountered our resident obnoxious troll. I can't
recall
the last time he was anything but mean spirited and rude.

I kind of figured that, but fell in the trap anyway

He has a real
thing about aftermarket inks and constantly snipes at anyone who
mentions
them.

Actually, my photos printed much better with the "trash ink" which was
Staples compatible carts if thats what he means by aftermarket inks,
than it now does with brand name Canon ink cart.

Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does
everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your enjoying
it.

Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during that
time till I got a new Staples compatible but that is what I have always
used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a
pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the Canon
brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples
compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its
something to do with the printer.

You have two problems.

One is probably some clogging of the jets which has caused one or more
colors to partially print and results in a color shift. Genuine Canon
inks
(OEM) can clog the printhead also. Otherwise there would be no reason
for
all inkjet printers to have built in cleaning routines. Clogs usually
happen from letting the printer sit idle for a period of time without
printing. Clogging also can occur after some months or years of use.

The printer is not used every day but pretty frequently and this is the
first time I've had any kind of color problem with photos. Its not
terrible, but a light pinkish cast is there that was never there before.
Just enough to not look quite right when compared to a previous print of
the same photo from when I printed it a month ago.

You
can also have a failure of the printhead or the printer circuitry.
I've
never used this printer, but it probably has a nozzle check. Run it
to see
if you are getting a perfect pattern. The cleaning routine in the
printer
software works for very minor clogs.

I did a nozzle check and some of the color lines look ok except for the
second lighter blue which has lines a little broken up, but the red
which is the color I seem to have a little too much of in the prints,
looks ok. The yellow looks ok, but the lighter yellow below that is
quite hard to see.

It also uses up ink quickly,
especially with the small volume of ink in the ip1500 carts.

Thats another thing you reminded me off. I have the printer monitor on
to check to see how much ink is left in the carts, and they both still
show them as being full. By this time after printing quite a few photos
in my experiments (wasted ink of course), the carts usually suddenly dip
down to about half after what seems a very short time.

Since you know
how to remove the printhead, go on to the Nifty-stuff forum, click on
the
FAQ section, and read the first thread about what to do if your
printer
doesn't print properly. Lots of info on cleaning a removable Canon
printhead. If, however, you are still under warranty, just contact
Canon
and they will send you a new printhead.

I've never heard of Nifty stuff forum, but I'll do a search for it. The
warranty for my printer is up sometimes this month, but since I bought
it at Staples. I am in Toronto, Canada, so things might be done a little
different than in the US with Staples. I got an extended warranty for
$10.00 when I bought the printer as I thought it was worth it. I had an
Epson a few years ago and it conked out during the second year, and
Staples took my old one back and said to take another one and thats how
I got the Canon I now have. Anything that cost under $200, they dont
send for repair. They just replace it with same printer or one a little
more money and you pay the difference. So I am not sure if I would just
get another printer since I could get one the same price and not have to
pay anything more than I paid for the printer I have, or pay a little
more if I saw something else.
I saw advertised an iP 1600 which would be similar to what I have and
about the same price. I don't want to pay a lot for a printer. I don't
print photos that often. I go on photo printing binges. We probably
don't have all the varieties of printers you have in the US though we
have enough for most people. I seem to manage to buy enough stuff

The other problem is the nearly full waste ink tank. It isn't really
a
tank - it is an absorbent pad inside the bottom of the printer.

When I checked the printer, I notice on the right side where you can't
get at inside the printer (where they don't want you to get at), there
is a white plastic cup thing with small dividers, don't know what you
call them, and a lot of blue and red ink smeared around, and two small
pad things. I guess thats what you mean.

If you keep
printing now that you've gotten the warning, your printer will
absolutely
shut down and you will have to take it to a repair facility to have
them
replace the pad and reset the printer internal operating system.

I would take it to Staples and they will replace it with another printer
as that one is not in production now, or I would pay a little more for
difference in price from what I paid and get another printer.
Theoretically, during the first year, its under warranty by the
manufacturer, but often Staples will give you a new one even without
extended warranty. The extended warranty is for the second year. I've
never had to take a printer or anything for repair when buying at
Staples. I have found them good to deal with.

Again, on
the Nifty-stuff forum you can find the control codes for some of the
Canon
priners that the technicians use to reset the counter that tells you
the pad
is full. From what I've read, one reset without replacing the pad
doesn't
generally cause the printer to leak ink.

I will see if I can find that information on Nifty-stuff though I've
never been there,.

Unfortunately, these printers cost
more for the technician to replace the pad and reset them than it
would cost
to buy a replacement!

That is true, and thats why Staples just replace them and don't send
them for repair. But if you pay more than $200.00 for something, Staples
will send it for repair for you, though thankfully that has not happened
to me yet. Most things I buy are not more than $200.00 unless a digital
camera I bought there last year.

This is certainly an anti-consumer bit of technology
that Canons and Epsons employ. The printer doesn't actually measure
how
much ink it has accumulated in the pad. It estimates it based on the
number
of pages printed plus the number of cleaning cycles that it does, both
automatically and by you when there is a clog.

From what you say and from the message I got about wasted ink absorber,
I figured something is clogged.

If you do have to replace the printer, Measekite's advice to get the
ip 4200
or ip5200 isn't bad.

It depends on if they are available here and how much they cost. They
probably cost more here than you would pay though some here are fairly
cheap. I saw the iP1600 but it would be similar to the one I have.

It's just the mean quality of his message that is
totally inappropriate. Most of us have killfiled him and never see
his
posts unless they are repeated by your response. So --- delete his
garbage
with any future replies. Unfortunately, the newest pixma printers
have
carts with computer chips built in and there are no aftermarket carts
available yet. Hopefully they will become available.

So you have to use the brand name carts. Thats not what I want to do.
They are too expensive. Staples brand has been ok for me though they
have gone up in price recently and are not all that much cheaper than
brand name.

The previous
generation pixmas - the ip4000 and ip5000 - have separate color carts
and a
ready supply of aftermarket prefilled carts and refill inks.

I thought my iP 1500 was a previous generation? it does not have
separate color carts. To tell you the truth, I really don't want
separate color carts, if you mean the three separate colors plus black.
I had an Epson like that and it is marketed as supposedly you save
money, but I found I spent more money. If the blue was half way down,
and the red was three quarters, and if I got a new blue, by another week
or so I had to get red and was always running back and forth and went to
an ink refiller which was ok, but I would not buy separate color
cartridges again. I want the three in one which is fine for my purposes.

If you can
find one to buy, your replacement inks will be much cheaper. I have
found
that businesses like Staples charge almost as much as OEM carts for
their
aftermarket inks. Your best buys are on the internet and Nifty-stuff
forum
and Neil Slade's info on papers and inks are good guides for which of
these
products are safe and effective.

I've never bought ink carts online, as I use my printer steadily but not
every day. I like to buy them and get them right away. Thats just me
though. Staples OEM carts used to be a lot cheaper, but recently they
have gone up in price and not as much of a bargain any more.

If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, Fry's electronics in San
Jose has
the Canon MP780, a multipurpose unit, that has, as its basic printer
engine,
the ip4000. It is on sale for $100 after reduction and Canon rebate.
It is
also on sale at their outpost.com for $150. It is actually worth the
price
for the printer function alone. As I mentioned for the ip4000 and
ip5000,
there are lots of sources for prefilled carts of good quality.

I am a few thousand miles from San Francisco though I would like to
visit it but I am about an hour and a half to Buffalo, though I haven't
been there in 10 years. I think I can manage to find something a little
closer.
Thanks a lot for your information. I am going to see if I can find the
codes to re-set the ink absorber, or might end up going to Staples and
see what printers they have that I can get.
Too bad, I like the printer I have. I had a Canon before, the 2100. It
was a good printer,
better made than the ip1500. It lasted for 3 years with no problems.
Finally the printhead went and it was separate and it was going to cost
some ridiculous amount to replace and was cheaper to buy a new printer,
so I did.

Mary


Mary - I forgot to answer another of your questions. If you are getting a
color shift to pink or red it is not the magenta jets that are clogged, it
would be one of the others. Probably Cyan. With flesh tones, if as an
experiment you back off of the cyan in the printer software you will shift
to a redder skin tone and visa versa. In essence, you get the opposite
color shift to the jet that is partially clogged.

But they had a little too much pink in them and some were a bit
dark
I know you are know printing coloured photos but I thought you were
complaining of a coloured cast...this will show up more easily in a
b&w photo where the mixture of the colours ought to produce a
reasonable black to white images and the grey's in between....this is
greyscale.

There should be no colour cast only black or white and the in betweens
which should be gray.

Getting rid of the colour 'tinge' as we'll call it is easier done I'd
say in a b&w photo, it only needs to be a small one and not of
full blown size.

Dont think any comments where made about the ink and paper brand, if
this could be the cause.

Davy

Mary wrote:

"Burt" wrote in message news:ct1Yf.65766



"measekite" wrote in message
y.net...





Mary wrote:



Hi, I have a Canon iP1500 for the last year and so far its been


working


fine till last week.
Its more of an all purpose printer and not a great printer but OK


for


me. Last week, I got a
new color cart, Staples brand which I use and it has always


printed


photos fine. But they had a
little too much pink in them and some were a bit dark. Not


terrible,


but


I've printed the same photos previously, and they were better


before.


I went back to Staples with the color cart and got a Canon color


cart.


But photos have an even more pink cast to them. I tried several
cleanings and it says "waste ink absorber is almost full, press


Resume


button". It said this when I got the Staples new cart as well. I


also


notice after
printing quite a few photos, that the ink level still shows full


which


should be down a little by now.
I don't know if the cart is the problem, though seems unlikely, or


is


blue and yellow clogged up in the printer? I cleaned the printer


as


much


as I could taking out the printhead and cleaning it gently,
according to suggestions I saw on this NG, but nothing helped. Is


my


printer finished?

MaryW




(snipped Measekite's mean-spirited, unhelpful response to Mary)



What kind of newsgroup is this? I came for some help for a printing
problem, not for some jerk to insult me. And is your caps lock key
stuck? Don't you know it means shouting and is bad netiquette? Don't
bother replying if this is your best advice.

Mary



Mary - you've just encountered our resident obnoxious troll. I can't


recall


the last time he was anything but mean spirited and rude.



I kind of figured that, but fell in the trap anyway

He has a real


thing about aftermarket inks and constantly snipes at anyone who


mentions


them.



Actually, my photos printed much better with the "trash ink" which was
Staples compatible carts if thats what he means by aftermarket inks,
than it now does with brand name Canon ink cart.

Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does


everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your enjoying


it.

Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during that
time


till I got a new Staples compatible

THATS WHAT I MEAN.

but that is what I have always
used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a
pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the Canon
brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples
compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its
something to do with the printer.



You have two problems.





One is probably some clogging of the jets which has caused one or more
colors to partially print and results in a color shift. Genuine Canon


inks


(OEM) can clog the printhead also. Otherwise there would be no reason


for


all inkjet printers to have built in cleaning routines. Clogs usually
happen from letting the printer sit idle for a period of time without
printing. Clogging also can occur after some months or years of use.



The printer is not used every day but pretty frequently and this is the
first time I've had any kind of color problem with photos. Its not
terrible, but a light pinkish cast is there that was never there before.
Just enough to not look quite right when compared to a previous print of
the same photo from when I printed it a month ago.



You
can also have a failure of the printhead or the printer circuitry.


I've


never used this printer, but it probably has a nozzle check. Run it


to see


if you are getting a perfect pattern. The cleaning routine in the


printer


software works for very minor clogs.



I did a nozzle check and some of the color lines look ok except for the
second lighter blue which has lines a little broken up, but the red
which is the color I seem to have a little too much of in the prints,
looks ok. The yellow looks ok, but the lighter yellow below that is
quite hard to see.



It also uses up ink quickly,
especially with the small volume of ink in the ip1500 carts.



Thats another thing you reminded me off. I have the printer monitor on
to check to see how much ink is left in the carts, and they both still
show them as being full. By this time after printing quite a few photos
in my experiments (wasted ink of course), the carts usually suddenly dip
down to about half after what seems a very short time.



Since you know
how to remove the printhead, go on to the Nifty-stuff forum, click on


the


FAQ section, and read the first thread about what to do if your


printer


doesn't print properly. Lots of info on cleaning a removable Canon
printhead. If, however, you are still under warranty, just contact


Canon


and they will send you a new printhead.



I've never heard of Nifty stuff forum, but I'll do a search for it. The
warranty for my printer is up sometimes this month, but since I bought
it at Staples. I am in Toronto, Canada, so things might be done a little
different than in the US with Staples. I got an extended warranty for
$10.00 when I bought the printer as I thought it was worth it. I had an
Epson a few years ago and it conked out during the second year, and
Staples took my old one back and said to take another one and thats how
I got the Canon I now have. Anything that cost under $200, they dont
send for repair. They just replace it with same printer or one a little
more money and you pay the difference. So I am not sure if I would just
get another printer since I could get one the same price and not have to
pay anything more than I paid for the printer I have, or pay a little
more if I saw something else.
I saw advertised an iP 1600 which would be similar to what I have and
about the same price. I don't want to pay a lot for a printer. I don't
print photos that often. I go on photo printing binges. We probably
don't have all the varieties of printers you have in the US though we
have enough for most people. I seem to manage to buy enough stuff



The other problem is the nearly full waste ink tank. It isn't really


a


tank - it is an absorbent pad inside the bottom of the printer.



When I checked the printer, I notice on the right side where you can't
get at inside the printer (where they don't want you to get at), there
is a white plastic cup thing with small dividers, don't know what you
call them, and a lot of blue and red ink smeared around, and two small
pad things. I guess thats what you mean.



If you keep
printing now that you've gotten the warning, your printer will


absolutely


shut down and you will have to take it to a repair facility to have


them


replace the pad and reset the printer internal operating system.



I would take it to Staples and they will replace it with another printer
as that one is not in production now, or I would pay a little more for
difference in price from what I paid and get another printer.
Theoretically, during the first year, its under warranty by the
manufacturer, but often Staples will give you a new one even without
extended warranty. The extended warranty is for the second year. I've
never had to take a printer or anything for repair when buying at
Staples. I have found them good to deal with.



Again, on
the Nifty-stuff forum you can find the control codes for some of the


Canon


priners that the technicians use to reset the counter that tells you


the pad


is full. From what I've read, one reset without replacing the pad


doesn't


generally cause the printer to leak ink.



I will see if I can find that information on Nifty-stuff though I've
never been there,.

Unfortunately, these printers cost


more for the technician to replace the pad and reset them than it


would cost


to buy a replacement!



That is true, and thats why Staples just replace them and don't send
them for repair. But if you pay more than $200.00 for something, Staples
will send it for repair for you, though thankfully that has not happened
to me yet. Most things I buy are not more than $200.00 unless a digital
camera I bought there last year.



This is certainly an anti-consumer bit of technology
that Canons and Epsons employ. The printer doesn't actually measure


how


much ink it has accumulated in the pad. It estimates it based on the


number


of pages printed plus the number of cleaning cycles that it does, both
automatically and by you when there is a clog.



From what you say and from the message I got about wasted ink absorber,
I figured something is clogged.



If you do have to replace the printer, Measekite's advice to get the


ip 4200


or ip5200 isn't bad.



It depends on if they are available here and how much they cost. They
probably cost more here than you would pay though some here are fairly
cheap. I saw the iP1600 but it would be similar to the one I have.



It's just the mean quality of his message that is
totally inappropriate. Most of us have killfiled him and never see


his


posts unless they are repeated by your response. So --- delete his


garbage


with any future replies. Unfortunately, the newest pixma printers


have


carts with computer chips built in and there are no aftermarket carts
available yet. Hopefully they will become available.



So you have to use the brand name carts. Thats not what I want to do.
They are too expensive. Staples brand has been ok for me though they
have gone up in price recently and are not all that much cheaper than
brand name.

The previous


generation pixmas - the ip4000 and ip5000 - have separate color carts


and a


ready supply of aftermarket prefilled carts and refill inks.



I thought my iP 1500 was a previous generation? it does not have
separate color carts. To tell you the truth, I really don't want
separate color carts, if you mean the three separate colors plus black.
I had an Epson like that and it is marketed as supposedly you save
money, but I found I spent more money. If the blue was half way down,
and the red was three quarters, and if I got a new blue, by another week
or so I had to get red and was always running back and forth and went to
an ink refiller which was ok, but I would not buy separate color
cartridges again. I want the three in one which is fine for my purposes.

If you can


find one to buy, your replacement inks will be much cheaper. I have


found


that businesses like Staples charge almost as much as OEM carts for


their


aftermarket inks. Your best buys are on the internet and Nifty-stuff


forum


and Neil Slade's info on papers and inks are good guides for which of


these


products are safe and effective.



I've never bought ink carts online, as I use my printer steadily but not
every day. I like to buy them and get them right away. Thats just me
though. Staples OEM carts used to be a lot cheaper, but recently they
have gone up in price and not as much of a bargain any more.



If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, Fry's electronics in San


Jose has


the Canon MP780, a multipurpose unit, that has, as its basic printer


engine,


the ip4000. It is on sale for $100 after reduction and Canon rebate.


It is


also on sale at their outpost.com for $150. It is actually worth the


price


for the printer function alone. As I mentioned for the ip4000 and


ip5000,


there are lots of sources for prefilled carts of good quality.



I am a few thousand miles from San Francisco though I would like to
visit it but I am about an hour and a half to Buffalo, though I haven't
been there in 10 years. I think I can manage to find something a little
closer.
Thanks a lot for your information. I am going to see if I can find the
codes to re-set the ink absorber, or might end up going to Staples and
see what printers they have that I can get.
Too bad, I like the printer I have. I had a Canon before, the 2100. It
was a good printer,
better made than the ip1500. It lasted for 3 years with no problems.
Finally the printhead went and it was separate and it was going to cost
some ridiculous amount to replace and was cheaper to buy a new printer,
so I did.

Mary

"Mary" wrote in message
...
"measekite" wrote in message news:FSbYf.63835

Mary wrote:

Burt:

Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does


everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your
enjoying


it.

Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during
that
time


till I got a new Staples compatible

THATS WHAT I MEAN.

You had to quote the whole message just to say 4 words?

If you had read what I said below this paragraph I am typing you would
have noticed that I said that I had ALWAYS used Staples compatibles. I
have never used Canon brand name cartridges since I got the computer a
year ago. When I said my printer worked fine since I got the printer
tilll I got a new Staples compatible, I meant to emphasize the word
"NEW" meaning it was a new cartridge. It was not meant to be that
STaples cartridge was new to me. I used Staples compatible cartridges
ever since I had the printer. I only tried a Canon name brand because
the Staples cartridge had this pink tinge to my photos and I wanted to
see if the Canon carts did the same and they did. The Staples carts
which I've used all along, never had that pink cast before and I've used
tons of Staples cartridges.

but that is what I have always
used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a
pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the
Canon
brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples
compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its
something to do with the printer.

Mary - you are new to this newsgroup and feel compelled to try to reason
with our troll. Don't waste the keystrokes! You'll just get more of the
same back from him. Killfile him in your newsgroup reader.

"Mary" wrote in message
...
"Tony" wrote in message You can e-mail me
(snip)

I will email you from my hotmail account in a little while. I would like
to try the reset though I am not sure it will work. This is what I get
for printing too many photos lately. I broke my printer
Actually, I don't use the printer all that often to print photos.
But when I do, I get a bit carried away, but maybe I will have to stop
printing so many photos.Its just since I got a digital camera 5 months
ago.
I really dont want a printer that is more than I want to pay.

Mary

Mary - The printer companies sell their lower end printers at a low price to
assure themselves of a customer who will spend a great deal over the life of
the printer on their high priced ink. If you can find the printers I
mentioned and spend a bit more on one of them than the ip1500 or the ip1600
you will reap the benefit of REALLY cheap ink instead of the very modest
savings you had with the Staples carts. Also, if you have a Costco store
where you live you can buy excellent glossy photo paper, either 4x6 (about
five cents US a sheet) or 8.5x11 (125 sheets for $19 US), and cut the price
of your printing down so much that you will enjoy your digital camera even
more. If you really want to save money you can learn to refill your
cartridges with bulk inks especially formulated for your printer at a cost
of about $1 US per refill. At that rate it is almost free! With the money
you will save you can buy another printer and not even worry about the old
one failing.

"measekite" wrote in message news:FSbYf.63835

Mary wrote:

Burt:

Yes, your canon ip1500 is a low end printer, but if it does


everything you need it to do, there's nothing wrong with your
enjoying


it.

Exactly my point. I've had it a year and it has worked fine during
that
time


till I got a new Staples compatible

THATS WHAT I MEAN.

You had to quote the whole message just to say 4 words?

If you had read what I said below this paragraph I am typing you would
have noticed that I said that I had ALWAYS used Staples compatibles. I
have never used Canon brand name cartridges since I got the computer a
year ago. When I said my printer worked fine since I got the printer
tilll I got a new Staples compatible, I meant to emphasize the word
"NEW" meaning it was a new cartridge. It was not meant to be that
STaples cartridge was new to me. I used Staples compatible cartridges
ever since I had the printer. I only tried a Canon name brand because
the Staples cartridge had this pink tinge to my photos and I wanted to
see if the Canon carts did the same and they did. The Staples carts
which I've used all along, never had that pink cast before and I've used
tons of Staples cartridges.

but that is what I have always
used, so I couldn't figure out why my colored photos would have a
pinkish cast, when they never had that before and I only got the
Canon
brand to see if it showed the same pinkish cast as the Staples
compatible, which it does, so that leaves me thinking maybe its
something to do with the printer.

"Tony" wrote in message You can e-mail me
at



I thought that was a spamblocked address

The waste ink counter problem is not related to the poor quality
print.
The waste pads are actually deep inside the printer on the base plate,
or near
enough.

So you mean you can't see it from just looking inside the printer. its
not the two square things in the white plastic container.

Don't worry about the ink sitting in the capping station that is normal.
It is likely that the pads are not full yet and that if you reset them
you
would be OK until the next time you get the message, at that time pad
replacement is a must or you may get ink spillage.

Thats when I would get another printer.

The symptoms you describe (poor print quality) indicates to me that
the
printhead is failing so I strongly suggest that you get it in for
warranty
replacement as soon as you can. They may just provide you with a new
printhead
which is simple to replace (it comes with full instructions), it does
not come
with new ink cartridges.

Thats not how its done at Staples here. If its a cheaper printer, if it
breaks down in the first year while under warranty with the
manufacturer, Staples gives you a new printer, either the same if the
model is still around, or you can pay a little extra and get a different
printer. For more expensive printers, you probably have to go to the
manufacturer or an authorized dealer to get it repaired. As far as I
know, you can't just order a new printhead, as they want to have the
authorized dealer check to make sure thats what it is since it might be
also something else. I am not positive about that though.

Compatible ink does not damage printheads whatever our low life says,
he knows
next to nothing about printers, Burt and I and many others here know
heaps.
The ip1600 uses cartridges with integrated print heads so you get one
black and
one tricolour cartridge and when they run out of ink you get a new
printhead as
well, unfortunately there are no compatible cartridges for that model
yet but
they can be refilled (I don't know how easy or effective it is).

The cartridges no doubt would be more money than if you had a built in
printhead. I already complain about the price of cartridges, even
compatibles. Its ridiculous. Its too bad the iP1600 needs a new
printhead every time. The printer is a good price but the carts will
cost a lot.
I guess Canon didn't make enough money on their printers with printheads
you can take out.
I have a thing against printer manufacturers and their high cost of
cartrdiges. I would rather they made the printers more money and the
cartridges a lot less money.

If you do want to try the reset I will send you the utility but cannot
post it
to a non-binary newsgroup so I would need your e-mail address, if you
prefer
not to do that I will post it to a free server and post the url here.
Tony

I will email you from my hotmail account in a little while. I would like
to try the reset though I am not sure it will work. This is what I get
for printing too many photos lately. I broke my printer
Actually, I don't use the printer all that often to print photos.
But when I do, I get a bit carried away, but maybe I will have to stop
printing so many photos.Its just since I got a digital camera 5 months
ago.
I really dont want a printer that is more than I want to pay.

Mary

"Burt" wrote in message
et...

"Mary" wrote in message
...
"Burt" wrote in message news:ct1Yf.65766
The best news of all is that you are still under warranty. I did buy
three
i5000 printers a few months ago at two staples stores in our area.
They
were unadvertised and just happened to be on a closeout for $100 US
each.
Don't reject the separate color carts idea yet - if you can find an
ip4000,
ip5000, or the mp printer I mentioned in a previous post, you can buy
prefilled aftermarket carts online for $3 US or less and they hold a
lot
more ink than your present printer carts. I don't remember the exact
volume, but I think that your present cart only has something like 7
ml. of
ink per color and when one runs out you throw the whole thing away.
The
bci-6 carts have 13 to 14 ml of ink each - about double, and the
aftermarket
ones I'll mention below are less than $3 US each (plus shipping, of
course.)
For Canadian sources of aftermarket inks or for info on which
companies ship
to Canada, send an email to Taliesyn - you can find some of his posts
on
this newsgroup.

Look at the following sites for more information:

http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/

http://www.neilslade.com/papers/badink.html

G&G and Procolor carts from Alotofthings.com were tested by Neil
Slade and
his test photos are on his site. You will save considerably more
money on
these inks with the five separate cart printers if you can find one
available. You might have your staples store check their warehouse
facility
for a stray ip5000 if they don't have one in stock and you may just be
able
to have them give it to you to satisfy the extended warranty. If
aftermarket carts were currently available I would then suggest the
ip4200
or ip5200.

I'll have to see what printers are available here and go from there. We
are more limited for variety of printers you have. You have 10 times the
population we have, so you have more competition, which means cheaper
prices, and more variety. I have 4 Staples stores not too far away from
where I live, and notice that in different Staples they have some
different models that other stores don't have on display. I don't know
if they would have iP 5000 or not, but if iP 4000 is more than I want to
pay, iP 5000 would be even more money. From my experience with Epson, I
vowed never to get 4 different cartridges again. I really don't want to
buy carts online if I don't have to. I am not sure what I am going to
get yet and would have to look around. Staples in Canada have an online
site and have iP 4000 advertised there but its about twice the price I
paid for the one I have, so I would have to pay about $60.00 Can. plus
15% tax which is what we pay, so thats $80.00 Can. =$68.30 US. I can't
really afford that right now, and may have to stop printing photos at
home. The cartridges are too expensive, and I need to start using the
Kodak machines you get at Walmart and other places.

Mary

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